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旧 Jul 25th, 2012, 20:57   只看该作者   #61
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我说的条件全具备,就成了100%完美的真正的朋友.其实,生活中多的是60%,70%,80%.
因而也就分成熟人,朋友,铁哥们;同学,姐们,闺蜜的不同称呼.
男人总有几个铁哥们,女人总有几个闺密吧?
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旧 Jul 25th, 2012, 23:14   只看该作者   #62
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I can not agree on some of your comments. In our business area, I am the only one from mainland china, my peers are very nice to me. My bosses treat ...
OK, first, I am here talking in general.
I didn't say there is no exception. In your case, it is kind of special, you married to a white guy, so your environment is more related with western culture than average Chinese immigrant(first generation). and I didn't mentioned skin color, I more focus on culture and the way of thinking. people came here in their earlier age( in their early 20s) or got their university degree here might adopt to western society more easily (again, generally). Usually we are more being recognized by someone who has similar value and thinking.
Back to my comments above, from my observation of the process they chose candidate, they tend to chose the one who has same background, same education and of course same value. I think some candidates showed more experience and enthusiasm than others but just because they are not their group, so they were declined.
Last, I don't mean we can not be successful. I mean NORMALLY, we have to put more effort than white people to succeed. There is a guy in our office. He is from HK and was sent to here when he was 15. He tried so hard ( I think), he read a book called "How Canadians think", he married a white girl and always hangs out with his wife's family. He criticizes Chinese government always, exactly follow what western media says. He is recognized by them now. What I want to express here is : I believe if you want you can succeed at least you can pretend something, but not as easy as local people. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you criticize Chinese government.
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旧 Jul 25th, 2012, 23:26   只看该作者   #63
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你认可的真正的朋友,可都是想着让他们帮你的,给你提供方便的.也可能你没说全面.
实际上,真正的朋友,应该是互相帮助的,互相欣赏的,可以不设防地交心,喜欢替对方着想.甚至牺牲点自己,也愿意挺身而出为对方的.
真正的朋友,一生有几个,就很不错了.
跟我认识的朋友没关系。我是说一般来说,你深交的朋友都是同总族的。因为比较容易取得认同。
当然,语言足够好,知识面足够宽,了解各国历史文化,也能交到其他总族的朋友。反正人性还是相通的。
我就是表达这么一个意思,您要是正好语言足够好,知识面足够宽,了解各国历史文化,或是取了/嫁了其他总族,当然也可以交很多朋友,不过我觉得不够代表性。
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旧 Jul 25th, 2012, 23:28   只看该作者   #64
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越来越木礼貌
哪天叔在教堂,好好开导开导你
7~~
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有麻根据阿?
唉,叔上山学艺那年,你尚小,说了你也不记的。观天象,断八字。隔山传音,遇水焦山。这些绝世的功夫,不是一两句,你能信服的
不多说了,洗洗睡吧,明天精神头儿好足,我继续骗淫

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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 00:00   只看该作者   #66
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唉,叔上山学艺那年,你尚小,说了你也不记的。观天象,断八字。隔山传音,遇水焦山。这些绝世的功夫,不是一两句,你能信服的
不多说了,洗洗睡吧,明天精神头儿好足,我继续骗淫
兄弟学艺不精阿~~
睡不着啊,头大如斗,调程序调的哈,别又给我整歪了。去看电视了。。。
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 07:59   只看该作者   #67
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I do not know ur work enovioment and ur office cululture. It looks like you might have negative experience in office. What I can tell u is that I never criticize our Chinese culture and my value system is still very tradition. I always have conversation with my peers at lunch table to explain how our Chinese thinks and how chinese will behave different in differently. Last, I do not like to hang out with my in law family because there are the difference of value and system. I try to avoid them as much as I can.
My best bff are mainland Chinese not white girls.
What i do differently is that I learn to adapt and play politics. And I am not a shy person. I spoke my mind and push back things that I do not think right. And I use opportunity to self promote my achievements. Also I alwYs show confidence and positive attitude in the office, this is very important.
90% of time in office you need act if you want to get notice or move up.if I want to move up, I won't read how Canadian think! I go to buy a book about office politics and communication skills. Understanding general human behavior is more important than understand one particular race.

And one of our senior vp from sear us is a authentic mainland lady. I do not know how she get there, but I knew she has strong cOmmunication and politic savvy from her speech and her behavior.
My point is simple , you got to act. Not all white people are at senior level. Please compare the behavior of senior people with non management employees, you will know the race or culture play a very small part in determination of promotion.
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I do not know ur work enovioment and ur office cululture. It looks like you might have negative experience in office. What I can tell u is that I neve...
Lots of spelling mistakes.
Somebody would laugh at your English again.
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 08:50   只看该作者   #69
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我估计,你管辖的范围是比较综合的,涉及到人,物,向VP报告;涉及到资金,向CONTROLLER报告.
你这角色很吃重,人财物都管,在手下眼里,也是老板一枚.
大哥太会抬举人了,我就一打杂的。心笨嘴拙的,连辩论都不会跟人辩论的。就是打工挣口饭钱而已。

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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 08:53   只看该作者   #70
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这根认识不认识有什么关系啊??
很明显阿,你凭良心说:是不是各种种族都喜欢和自己的种族混?有机会愿意让自己关系近的受益。(一般情况,统计数据)不管是大多还是西部。
就是粉猪说只是西部如此,我才和她辩的。
你说的在我身边不是如此。帮别人一把,未必必须是朋友才可以。只要力所能及的,帮帮别人有不会损失什么。何必要谈什么朋友不朋友的。所以,咱姐妹俩就表辩什么了。
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 09:09   只看该作者   #71
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我都麻木了。

在公司7年,要来第5个老板了。我觉的我老板的办公室风水有问题。每个都座不稳!
你暂时无政府状态嘛。想干啥就干啥
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 09:11   只看该作者   #72
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你暂时无政府状态嘛。想干啥就干啥
我老早就是领导在与不在一个样了。这个周末能去找你不???
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 09:16   只看该作者   #73
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我老早就是领导在与不在一个样了。这个周末能去找你不???
成呀。啥时候?
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旧 Jul 26th, 2012, 09:19   只看该作者   #74
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成呀。啥时候?
我晚上打电话给你再商量吧,估计是周日。
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我晚上打电话给你再商量吧,估计是周日。
啥时候搬家啊,妹子?
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Lots of spelling mistakes.
Somebody would laugh at your English again.
兔子是个挺指着的绿人,我得这么说!
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大哥太会抬举人了,我就一打杂的。心笨嘴拙的,连辩论都不会跟人辩论的。就是打工挣口饭钱而已。
要是整天跟人辩论, 抬扛, 斗争, 你还能熬过5个老板?

粉猪是厚黑学的高手啊

[仓廪实而知礼节 衣食足而知荣辱]
在苍茫的大海上,狂风卷集着乌云。在乌云和大海之间,流狼像黑色的闪电,在高傲地飞翔......
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发现小D今天狠闲,有开始打听这打听那的,还是那副游手好闲的样子。

楼主这公司,俺老一看就知道,文件系统有问题,相关的文件只是大概的分类,估计连编号都末有,要是来一个文件管理的高手,估计就什么都顺利了,当然,还有相关的运作预测,这就狠需要行业经验了。

擎傲世之龍碼 從混沌中明清澈
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要是整天跟人辩论, 抬扛, 斗争, 你还能熬过5个老板?

粉猪是厚黑学的高手啊
狗叔,你怎么老抬举我呢。

其实,我是真的不喜欢跟人挣的。觉得没必要。工作不就是挣钱养家,或是给自己挣个买花带的银子钱吗??其实在工作上,必要的事情我也会挣,辩的。要不,给我们CONTROLLER吓都不敢直接找我理论,他觉得自己理亏,就敢转着弯找我老板说。我这几个老板,太够意思了,特别给我撑腰。

狗叔,我做的不对的地方,你还是要多多批评我的。
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啥时候搬家啊,妹子?
还有一个月呢。
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