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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:01   只看该作者   #21
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不懂,也不想懂。
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基督教--Q一N方式,把人"我"中D移到"他"上.所以械猛.
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:05   只看该作者   #22
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:13   只看该作者   #23
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给你贴一首儿童唱的赞美诗,看看基督教跟你们佛教的畜生道轮回的意境比,孰高孰低。
可惜找不到歌曲的连接,让你们听听这首歌到底有多美!

If I were a butterfly

If I were a butterfly, I’d thank you Lord for giving me wings
If I were a robin in a tree, I’d thank you Lord that I could sing
If I were a fish in the sea, I’d wiggle my tail and I’d giggle with glee
But I just thank you father for making me, me

For you gave me a heart and you gave me a smile
You gave me Jesus and you made me your child
And I just thank you Father for making me, me

If I were an elephant, I’d thank you Lord by raising my trunk
If I were a kangaroo, You know I’d hop right up to you
If I were an octopus, I’d thank you Lord for my fine looks
But I just thank you Father for making me, me

For you gave me a heart and you gave me a smile
You gave me Jesus and you made me your child
And I just thank you Father for making me, me

If I were a wiggly worm, I’d thank you Lord that I could squirm
If I were a fuzzy wuzzy bear, I’d thank you Lord for my fuzzy, wuzzy hair
If I were a crocodile, I’d thank you Lord for my great smile
But I just thank you Father for making me, me

For you gave me a heart and you gave me a smile
You gave me Jesus and you made me your child
And I just thank you Father for making me, me




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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:19   只看该作者   #24
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虚拟语气

如果明知道不是,那就随便说呗。你看他要是真变成八爪鱼他还有这心思?

这就是为什么我对基督的兴趣不如对上帝来的大,他明知道自己要复活,钉十字架只是演戏。退一万步说,钉十字架也不是他自己要求的,是上帝安排的。
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:26   只看该作者   #25
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意境!意境你懂不懂啊?!佛教不是老想讲什么境界高吗?说难听点还不是‘狗眼看人低’。看看人家的意境!
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:29   只看该作者   #26
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没看出来有什么意境

要是他真变成狗还赞美上帝,那才叫境界。玩儿虚的,没什么境界8

或者象那个谁,圣经里的,什么都没有了还赞美上帝,那才叫境界

还有,有骂佛人,佛都不恼,那才叫境界
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:32   只看该作者   #27
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别说,我觉得狗挺快乐的,尤其是北美的狗。
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要是他真变成狗还赞美上帝,那才叫境界。玩儿虚的,没什么境界8
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:33   只看该作者   #28
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你上班怎么这么空啊!气人!
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:35   只看该作者   #29
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别说,我觉得狗挺快乐的,尤其是北美的狗。
可不,有人陪吃,陪玩,陪洗澡
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 14:50   只看该作者   #30
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我还真没看出来什么意境。

这个歌曲如果按照传统的定义,只能归为世俗歌曲。在宗教界,听音乐要听出意境非格里高利圣咏莫属,连巴赫的马太受难曲都靠边站。有人认为凡是能用嘴说出来的,只有圣咏最美。建议小叶子去听听正宗的圣咏,再来谈“意境”和“美”。
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I don't believe religion, because most of my sufferings came from my mistakes, I don't have any excuses. and all of my achievements came from my blood and sweets, not from any other so called magic things.

so I don't believe it. honestly.
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对孩子来说, 要的就是这个.
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那是你的感受. FINE. 别人也有别人的感受.
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I don't believe religion, because most of my sufferings came from my mistakes, I don't have any excuses. and all of my achievements came from my blood and sweets, not from any other so called magic things.

so I don't believe it. honestly.
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那是你的感受. FINE. 别人也有别人的感受.


you're so weak, your mind have to be filled or it would be empty.


poor lady, you find yourself somthing good to fill, but you got shits filled in your mind.
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anyway, I didn't talk about my feelings, I talked about the truth.


I'm human being. If I don't need the religion, any others don't need the religion either.
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I can say you are pathetic too. 宗教对有些人的确是奢侈品, 是需要智慧发展到某种程度才会感兴趣的.
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I'm human being. If I don't need the religion, any others don't need the religion either.
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I can say you are pathetic too. 宗教对有些人的确是奢侈品, 是需要智慧发展到某种程度才会感兴趣的.

yes, you can say that, any doubts and suspecious things go to the religion. because only religion can explain them with only one idiot idea that the god made it possible. how irresponsible and stupid it is. and even some people are so pathetic to follow the idea, which is called xyzok.
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Because I can see something which you cannot see? You pathetic guy.
还是跟你的女朋友去迪斯尼玩吧, 那里最适合你. 以后我会带我的孩子去玩的.
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yes, you can say that, any doubts and suspecious things go to the religion. because only religion can explain them with only one idiot idea that the god made it possible. how irresponsible and stupid it is. and even some people are so pathetic to follow the idea, which is called xyzok.
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默认 觉得自己心灵空虚的人有福了.

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you're so weak, your mind have to be filled or it would be empty.
[虚心的人有福了!因为天国是他们的。
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

哀恸的人有福了!因为他们必得安7慰。
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

温柔的人有福了!因为他们必承受地土。
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

饥渴慕义的人有福了!因为他们必得饱足。
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

怜恤人的人有福了!因为他们必蒙怜恤。
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

清心的人有福了!因为他们必得见神。
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

使人和睦的人有福了!因为他们必称为神的儿子。
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

为义受逼迫的人有福了!因为天国是他们的。
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默认 我的世界观-阿尔伯特・爱因斯坦

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谁也不想否认圣经在历史上不可磨灭的作用,但事情都有正反两面。

这样评价达尔文,有失公允。对事不要对人。
我的世界观

阿尔伯特・爱因斯坦

我们这些总有一死的人的命运多么奇特!我们每个人在这个世界上都只作一个
短暂的逗留;目的何在,却无从知道,尽管有时自以为对此若有所感。但是,不必
深思,只要从日常生活就可以明白:人是为别人而生存的──首先是为那样一些人
,我们的幸福全部依赖于他们的喜悦和健康;其次是为许多我们所不认识的人,他
们的命运通过同情的纽带同我们密切结合在一起。我每天上百次的提醒自己:我的
精神生活和物质生活都是以别人(包括生者和死者)的劳动为基础的,我必须尽力
以同样的分量来报偿我所领受了的和至今还在领受着的东西。我强烈地向往着俭朴
的生活。并且时常发觉自己占用了同胞的过多劳动而难以忍受。我认为阶级的区分
是不合理的,它最后所凭借的是以暴力为根据。我也相信,简单淳朴的生活,无论
在身体上还是在精神上,对每个人都是有益的。

我完全不相信人类会有那种在哲学意义上的自由。每一个人的行为不仅受着外
界的强制,而且要适应内在的必然。叔本华说:“人虽然能够做他所想做的,但不
能要他所想要的。”这句格言从我青年时代起就给了我真正的启示;在我自己和别
人的生活面临困难的时候,它总是使我们得到安慰,并且是宽容的持续不断的源泉
。这种体会可以宽大为怀地减轻那种容易使人气馁的责任感,也可以防止我们过于
严肃地对待自己和别人;它导致一种特别给幽默以应有地位的人生观。

要追究一个人自己或一切生物生存的意义或目的,从客观的观点看来,我总觉
得是愚蠢可笑的。可是每个人都有一些理想,这些理想决定着他的努力和判断的方
向。就在这个意义上,我从来不把安逸和享乐看作生活目的本身──我把这种伦理
基础叫做猪栏的理想。照亮我的道路,是善、美和真。要是没有志同道合者之间的
亲切感情,要不是全神贯注于客观世界──那个在艺术和科学工作领域里永远达不
到的对象,那么在我看来,生活就会是空虚的。我总觉得,人们所努力追求的庸俗
目标──财产、虚荣、奢侈的生活──都是可鄙的。

我有强烈的社会正义感和社会责任感,但我又明显地缺乏与别人和社会直接接
触的要求,这两者总是形成古怪的对照。我实在是一个“孤独的旅客”,我未曾全
心全意地属于我的国家、我的家庭、我的朋友,甚至我最为接近的亲人;在所有这
些关系面前,我总是感觉到一定距离而且需要保持孤独──而这种感受正与年俱增
。人们会清楚地发觉,同别人的相互了解和协调一致是有限度的,但这不值得惋惜
。无疑,这样的人在某种程度上会失去他的天真无邪和无忧无虑的心境;但另一方
面,他却能够在很大程度上不为别人的意见、习惯和判断所左右,并且能够避免那
种把他的内心平衡建立在这样一些不可靠的基础之上的诱惑。

我的政治理想是民主政体。让每一个人都作为个人而受到尊重,而不让任何人
成为被崇拜的偶像。我自己一直受到同代人的过分的赞扬和尊敬,这不是由于我自
己的过错,也不是由于我自己的功劳,而实在是一种命运的嘲弄。其原因大概在于
人们有一种愿望,想理解我以自已微薄的绵力,通过不断的斗争所获得的少数几个
观念,而这种愿望有很多人却未能实现。我完全明白,一个组织要实现它的目的,
就必须有一个人去思考,去指挥、并且全面担负起责任来。但是被领导的人不应当
受到强迫,他们必须能够选择自己的领袖。在我看来,强迫的专制制度很快就会腐
化堕落。因为暴力所招引来的总是一些品德低劣的人,而且我相信,天才的暴君总
是由无赖来继承的,这是一条千古不易的规律。就是由于这个缘故,我总强烈地反
对今天在意大利和俄国所见到的那种制度。像欧洲今天所存在的情况,已使得民主
形式受到怀疑,这不能归咎于民主原则本身,而是由于政府的不稳定和选举制度中
与个人无关的特征。我相信美国在这方面已经找到了正确的道路。他们选出了一个
任期足够长的总统,他有充分的权力来真正履行他的职责。另一方面,在德国政治
制度中,为我所看重的是它为救济患病或贫困的人作出了可贵的广泛的规定。在人
生的丰富多彩的表演中,我觉得真正可贵的,不是政治上的国家,而是有创造性的、
有感情的个人,是人格;只有个人才能创造出高尚的和卓越的东西,而群众本身在
思想上总是迟钝的,在感觉上也总是迟钝的。

讲到这里,我想起了群众生活中最坏的一种表现,那就是使我厌恶的军事制度
。一个人能够洋洋得意的随着军乐队在四列纵队里行进,单凭这一点就足以使我对
他鄙夷不屑。他所以长了一个大脑,只是出于误会;光是骨髓就可满足他的全部需
要了。文明的这种罪恶的渊薮,应当尽快加以消灭。任人支配的英雄主义、冷酷无
情的暴行,以及在爱国主义名义下的一切可恶的胡闹,所有这些都使我深恶痛绝!
在我看来,战争是多么卑鄙、下流!我宁愿被千刀万剐,也不愿参与这种可憎的勾
当。尽管如此,我对人类的评价还是十分高的,我相信,要是人民的健康感情没有
遭到那些通过学校和报纸而起作用的商业利益和政治利益的蓄意败坏,那么战争这
个妖魔早就该绝迹了。

我们所能有的最美好的经验是奥秘的经验。它是坚守在真正艺术和真正科学发
源地上的基本感情。谁要体验不到它,谁要是不再有好奇心,也不再有惊讶的感觉
,谁就无异于行尸走肉,他的眼睛便是模糊不清的。就是这样奥秘的经验──虽然
掺杂着恐惧──产生了宗教。我们认识到有某种为我们所不能洞察的东西存在,感
觉到那种只能以其最原始的形式接近我们的心灵的最深奥的理性和最灿烂的美──
正是这种认识和这种情感构成了真正的宗教感情;在这个意义上,而且也只是在这
个意义上,我才是一个具有深挚的宗教感情的人。我无法想象存在这样一个上帝,
它会对自己的创造物加以赏罚,会具有我们在自己身上所体验到的那种意志。我不
能也不愿去想象一个人在肉体死亡以后还会继续活着;让那些脆弱的灵魂,由于恐
惧或者由于可笑的唯我论,去拿这种思想当宝贝吧!我自己只求满足于生命永恒的
奥秘,满足于觉察现存世界的神奇结构,窥见它的一鳞半爪,并且以诚挚的努力去
领悟在自然界中显示出来的那个理性的一部分,倘若真能如此,即使只领悟其极小
的一部分,我也就心满意足了。
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