【讨论】大家用什么播放器？ - 第2页

hugoo · May 29th, 2011, 14:56

据说是能量形式转变的地方最有影响，
喇叭是电能转成声能，所以最难做好，对系统performance的影响也最大。

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作者: 100khz

很多坛上的烧友上都听过我的喇叭和功放，放高质量的CD和用电脑+DAC播放下载的最好的APE相比，只是各有各的优缺短。如果用便宜的($30/对，用来唱K)两分频书架箱，一般人很难听出差别。

我玩音响多年，都是如此，何况新人。

sgyyz · May 29th, 2011, 14:58

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作者: hugoo

有意思，还可以这样玩的，第一次听说

为什么不可以？Conversion software就是用来转换的。可以down－sampling，当然也可以up－sampling。

hugoo · May 29th, 2011, 15:14

我脑子还没转过弯来，以为up down sampling都只在DAC里做的，其实电脑也能

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作者: sgyyz

为什么不可以？Conversion software就是用来转换的。可以down－sampling，当然也可以up－sampling。

sgyyz · May 29th, 2011, 15:29

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作者: hugoo

我脑子还没转过弯来，以为up down sampling都只在DAC里做的，其实电脑也能

电脑能对音源做手脚的地方可多了。。。
http://www.izotope.com/

DAC chip的up／down sampling都是real time conversion。可能都还没强大电脑软件的pre－conversion做的好，有效率。

sgyyz · May 29th, 2011, 15:36

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作者: 100khz

很多坛上的烧友上都听过我的喇叭和功放，放高质量的CD和用电脑+DAC播放下载的最好的APE相比，只是各有各的优缺短。

只听你说你的功放是Nakamichi（聚会时候说的），我还没听过呢。。。几时你方便也想拜访你聊天。

silent_fish · May 29th, 2011, 15:37

there is variable in up/down sampling, the algo is critical and I can't imagine it can fit any type of music.

Like in JRiver, I dont' like the output of its upsampling.

So it still depends, I think the best way is to do upsampling in computer using best s/w like sgyyz.

100khz · May 29th, 2011, 17:20

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作者: sgyyz

只听你说你的功放是Nakamichi（聚会时候说的），我还没听过呢。。。几时你方便也想拜访你聊天。

要是方便的话，带上好点的电脑+DAC，我的DAC是SONY的SACD/DVD附带的，很一般。

让LP也听听，就有机会弄台好点的DAC etc.

其实我已退烧，只是想DIY或价廉物美的玩玩，我的Nakamichi就是性价比很高的。

sgyyz · May 29th, 2011, 20:30

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作者: silent_fish

there is variable in up/down sampling, the algo is critical and I can't imagine it can fit any type of music.
Like in JRiver, I dont' like the outp...

The Stacey Kent albums you copied that day were upsampled from 16/44.1 to 24/96 using Sample Manager. Among many of the vocal jazz singers, I find myself always return to Stacey Kent ...

sgyyz · May 29th, 2011, 20:38

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作者: 100khz

要是方便的话，带上好点的电脑+DAC，我的DAC是SONY的SACD/DVD附带的，很一般。

让LP也听听，就有机会弄台好点的DAC etc.

其实我已退烧，只是想DIY或价廉物美的玩玩，我的Nakamichi就是性价比很高的。

就这样定了。我们几个带上一些毒品杀去你家，再次让你发高烧！

silent_fish · May 29th, 2011, 20:49

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作者: sgyyz

The Stacey Kent albums you copied that day were upsampled from 16/44.1 to 24/96 using Sample Manager. Among many of the vocal jazz singers, I find mys...

thank you, I really like her french album, just the type I am looking for, not overly romantic, the casual and intimate feeling are hard to found among American albums

hugoo · May 29th, 2011, 22:29

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作者: 100khz

其实我已退烧

其实你心里面还在烧，随时会死灰复燃的

sgyyz · Jun 1st, 2011, 10:55

又有新的 Windows 播放器出现了。
http://jplay.eu/

Full memory-based playback: most other memory-based players dynamically load tracks into memory during playback. In contrast, JPLAY pre-loads complete playlist into RAM guaranteeing no disk activity during playback (zero disk I/O)
Large Page Memory: superior memory management provides minimal CPU latencies
Maximum System Timer: reduce operating system latency by making Windows switch tasks faster. (0.5ms instead of default 15.6ms)
Maximum Priority Scheduling: ensure uninterrupted flow of music data by running music playback at highest possible priority
Hibernation Mode: cancel OS ‘noise’ by eliminating dozens of jitter-inducing processes and hundreds of threads

hugoo · Jun 1st, 2011, 14:27

比较难用，竟然还是DOS界面。

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作者: sgyyz

又有新的 Windows 播放器出现了。
http://jplay.eu/ ("http://jplay.eu/")

Full memory-based playback: most other memory-based players dynamically load tracks ...

sgyyz · Jun 1st, 2011, 21:16

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作者: hugoo

比较难用，竟然还是DOS界面。

一直有buffer error。还没成功播过一首歌。太难用了，完全不user friendly。失败的product。

hugoo · Jun 1st, 2011, 21:36

不支持APE,不支持ASIO, 不支持96/192khz。
用Kernel Streaming和WASAPI听了几首，和J.River比，听不出太大的区别。

总结：优点听不出，缺点一大堆，删除。

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作者: sgyyz

一直有buffer error。还没成功播过一首歌。太难用了，完全不user friendly。失败的product。

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sgyyz Senior Member 注册日期: Aug 2010 帖子: 1,485 积分:30 精华:7 声望: 64837	JPaly 又有新的 Windows 播放器出现了。 http://jplay.eu/ Full memory-based playback: most other memory-based players dynamically load tracks into memory during playback. In contrast, JPLAY pre-loads complete playlist into RAM guaranteeing no disk activity during playback (zero disk I/O) Large Page Memory: superior memory management provides minimal CPU latencies Maximum System Timer: reduce operating system latency by making Windows switch tasks faster. (0.5ms instead of default 15.6ms) Maximum Priority Scheduling: ensure uninterrupted flow of music data by running music playback at highest possible priority Hibernation Mode: cancel OS ‘noise’ by eliminating dozens of jitter-inducing processes and hundreds of threads

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silent_fish Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 635 积分:8 精华:3 声望: 3	there is variable in up/down sampling, the algo is critical and I can't imagine it can fit any type of music. Like in JRiver, I dont' like the output of its upsampling. So it still depends, I think the best way is to do upsampling in computer using best s/w like sgyyz.