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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 01:45   只看该作者   #41
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上海A股短线可能有回调,我的仓位比较低。
长期来看,中国股票比美国股票好。10年后中国GDP可超美国,按股票占GDP的比重来看,中国的股票10年后应该超过美国的市值。个人意见,长线投资中国比美国好。
哪些品种长线较好? 我目前选的是联通,工行, 宝钢, 你看咋样?
同学们要是觉得我是找死, 赶紧告诉我, 你们家大侄女的奶粉钱都在里面呢。

春天里的播种机:联通,三一,中信,浦发,西飞,金牛,金融街,金地, 紫金, 八钢。
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 01:47   只看该作者   #42
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强行推高上证不会给实体经济输血而是抽血.

实体经济现在本身效益底下,如果股市过分火暴,大量的资金更加会反向从实体经济流入股市抄做.
造成实体经济缺血.

如果政府真有有识之士的话,应该在搞人造牛市的时候,注意分寸.

我并不完全反对政府托市,毕竟中国国情复杂,保持社会的稳定性是必要的...
的确的确,中国股市以往常常是政府人造牛市,一抓就死,一放就乱,一来二去就愈演愈烈到政府都控制不住了,再来冰水灌顶,靠政府强行灭火。
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 02:44   只看该作者   #43
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千万别斑竹,何况我都辞职了

下周一应该决定本月的方向
没想到您老也把下周一看得如此重要,我也堵了一把下周一的运气。

今天在收盘时进了部分FAZ。不过这次没有全仓。

没办法,不会技术分析,但又喜欢堵刺激的。
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 11:31   只看该作者   #44
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自从发了几个贴子后,有几个朋友发PM来让我荐股,让我哭笑不的.

我自己现在很少做个股,一般做行业ETF以及大盘指数ETF,哪敢给人荐股?

我发的很多贴子,都是自己在TA的道路上慢慢摸索,不是为了充高手在这里显摆,完全不可以作为投资指南.

如果有和我一样的新手,你愿意看这样的技术分析贴,希望您能指出其中的错误和问题.共同提高技术.

一天想到归去但已晚
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 12:24   只看该作者   #45
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自从发了几个贴子后,有几个朋友发PM来让我荐股,让我哭笑不的.

我自己现在很少做个股,一般做行业ETF以及大盘指数ETF,哪敢给人荐股?

我发的很多贴子,都是自己在TA的道路上慢慢摸索,不是为了充高手在这里显摆,完全不可以作为投资指南.

如果有和我一样的新手,你愿意看这样的技术分析...
觉得下周黄金市场怎样发展,会不会反弹,有很多人非常看多黄金4月上1000,觉得黄金ETF怎么样?
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 13:08   只看该作者   #46
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你说的很对,这次上证和TSX我个人感觉都会走在美股前面.

尤其TSX,我的感觉非常强烈.
全套在TSX里,看来座等解套有希望了。看周五上证的图与TSX可真相像。
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 13:15   只看该作者   #47
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全套在TSX里,看来座等解套有希望了。看周五上证的图与TSX可真相像。
TSX确实是很牛。
单从TSX看,从02年的5000多点到现在的9000多点,几年上涨60%,根本看不出现在有什么经济问题。也就是做长线收益还是很高的。

2000年泡沫顶峰的时候TSX才1万1,去掉NT,其实2000年北美股票大泡沫的时候TSX应该最高也只有7000多点。(NT一人占了1/3)
当然去年最高点1万5主要是原油到了150,原油能不能再到100是TSX的关键。
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全套在TSX里,看来座等解套有希望了。看周五上证的图与TSX可真相像。
上证和美加股市比不好比.市场类型不一样.

你可以比较一下TSX和HSI的图形.
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 13:36   只看该作者   #49
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上证和美加股市比不好比.市场类型不一样.

你可以比较一下TSX和HSI的图形.
我的看法是上证和北美股市相互影响在加大,这几天上证走势与TSE走势像是简单图线比较,当然无理论依据,只是个人感觉。
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 20:48   只看该作者   #50
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想起去年与Johny打赌。我说,年底道会低于10K。当时北美大部分人认为,美国政府的政策能救美国经济。实践证明,我赢了。

我支持老野的观点。
我认为,北美市场大跌应该说就在眼前了。Very close!
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旧 Apr 4th, 2009, 21:49   只看该作者   #51
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不管是北美还是中国的大盘,在现在的指数位(美国8000点),还是属于中性偏熊的,下跌空间要比上升空间大不少。
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Promises, Not Problems, Occupy Markets
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Indexes ignore bad news to accentuate the positive, and get four up weeks.


STOCKS RALLIED FOR -- GASP -- A FOURTH straight week, bringing fresh hurt to the thwarted but unrepentant majority who believes we're in the midst of a mere bear-market bounce. But a reprieve might not be far off.

A little reflection is in order with stocks 25% above their March 9 lows: Have economic prospects brightened so much in just 19 days? The question, while legitimate, was brushed aside by a market more preoccupied lately with tomorrow's promise than today's problems.

Stocks' longest advancing streak of this bear market isn't without drivers: World leaders huddling in London pledged another $1.1 trillion to stimulate the global economy. The U.S. government relaxed accounting rules that required banks to mark assets according to market value, which will make their books more opaque but will at least help banks reduce their write-downs.

Still, strength of any rally is measured not just by how far stocks surge, but how they absorb the setbacks, and so far the market's willingness to accentuate the positive is remarkable. General Motors (ticker: GM) steering toward bankruptcy? Treated like old news by a market already looking ahead to restructuring and recovery. Employers laying off another 663,000 in March to send the unemployment rate to a 25-year high of 8.5%? Stocks greeted that news with a rally on Friday.

According to historical script, stocks reach a bottom four or five months before a recession ends, and corporate profits turn higher four or five months after. This gives the U.S. economy an August deadline for shaping up -- if March 9 is to remain the low point for this bear market. In the coming weeks, the market's direction will depend on the extent to which this assumption is supported or refuted by economic data and, starting Tuesday, earnings reports.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average kicked off April with a gain last week of 241, or 3.1%, to 8018. The Standard & Poor's 500 rallied 27, or 3.3%, to 843, and this fourth consecutive weekly rise marks its best run since October 2007. Technology stocks crossed into positive territory for 2009 as the Nasdaq Composite Index added 77, or 5%, to 1622; the 25.4% gain is the Nasdaq's best four-week run ever. The Russell 2000 index rose 27, or 6.3%, to 456 and is up 30% in four weeks.

Some good news: The four-week average ratio of bullish investors to bearish ones has quickly risen to 0.94 from a record low near 0.4 three weeks ago, but is "far from the levels of 'too much bullishness,'" notes Miller Tabak technical analyst Philip Roth. Some money may have moved from cash positions to stocks, but much of the flow is driven by professionals. "The public was a negligible demand force in the equity market for much of the last up-cycle."

The crop of stocks plumbing fresh lows at the New York Stock Exchange had shrunk steadily from 2,901 on Oct. 10, to 1,894 at the November low, to 827 in March, a sign fewer and fewer stocks were behind the slipping indexes. Last week, those new lows subsided further into the single digits. But the number of stocks pushing to new highs also remained in the single digits, and this brigade must expand for the rally to persist.

Was the $1.1 trillion pledged to the International Monetary Fund significant? "It's not chump change, but it's not enough to get the job done," says Doug Roberts, chief investment strategist at Channel Capital Research, who thinks stocks could pull back if companies report weaker-than-hoped first-quarter earnings, or if the government's plan to persuade private investors to buy bank assets gets a lukewarm response.

Some less encouraging signs: Robust volume in broad-market exchange-traded funds points to transient trading by professionals looking to catch a bounce. And the stubborn refusal of the VIX volatility index to relax in the face of rallying stocks suggests professionals bracing for a potential pullback.


Hope Floats: Relaxed accounting rules and more global stimulus helped the Dow rally for a fourth straight week -- its longest winning streak since October 2007.

"Sustainable post-bubble rallies are not led by those stocks which are the bubble darlings," notes Societe Generale strategist James Montier, and the prominence of emerging-market, mining and financial stocks in this rally is a red flag. On the other hand, "the cozy consensus that this is just a short-term rally makes me nervous."

THE STOCK MARKET'S 31.6% SLIDE BETWEEN October and March was the worst two-quarter stretch since 1974 and, before that, the Depression. Grim losses encourage the instinct to hunt for bargains, but the results are decidedly mixed, according to data from Bespoke Investment Group. Out of the nine worst two-quarter stretches in history, only five saw gains in the next three months. The average next-quarter performance was an 18% gain, but that is skewed by a pair of sharp rebounds during the early 1930s -- each more than 80%, but neither of them ultimately lasting.

Only 6% of the stocks within the S&P 1500 finished this six-month stretch higher, and these rare winners suck up much attention. They include private-education stocks like Apollo Group (APOL), Corinthian Colleges (COCO), Career Education (CECO) and ITT Education (ESI), held aloft by the well-trafficked notion that waning employment must swell the back-to-school ranks. That may well be true. Apollo last week reported rising enrollment and better-than-expected profits. But the ensuing stock swoon can be blamed only partly on a litigation charge and partly on high expectations that came with stretched valuations.

Casual-dining stocks that peaked well ahead of the market and which have lost more than two-thirds of their values also did well, with the likes of Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG) and Darden (DRI) up 20% over the past six months (more if you count from their 2008 lows). Newly frugal Americans still must eat out occasionally, but the boost from lower energy costs will abate now that crude oil has crept up 70% from its December low.

Other beneficiaries of the fashionable thrift trade include Netflix (NFLX) and Priceline.com (PCLN), which have rallied 140% and 83%, respectively, from their 2008 lows. Will the promise of economic convalescence siphon attention from these? Already, the only two Dow stocks with gains in 2008, Wal-Mart (WMT) and McDonald's (MCD), are underwater this year as money is funneled toward more volatile stocks that might rally harder when risk appetite improves, and defensive groups like consumer staples, utilities and health care that outperformed last year have become the new laggards over the past month.

The pace of that rotation toward risk should slow as the rally matures. "Expectations that upcoming tax stimulus is going to pull the economy out of its torpor ignores the reality that organic consumer income and employment fundamentals are in a very deep hole," says Merrill Lynch economist David Rosenberg, who thinks the 30% to 40% bounces of retailers, home builders and leisure stocks look "highly vulnerable."

On the other hand, SLM (SLM), or Sallie Mae, has lost 60% of its value in the past six months as funding constricts and fears increase that new government rules will squeeze profits of private student-loan providers. But shares trading well below four times 2009 profits have attracted investors betting on SLM's shift from lending to the origination and servicing of federal student loans -- a role that might benefit from President Obama's pledge to boost college graduation rates across the country.
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下周有一些大公司的ER,可能影响大盘。象AA。希望他业绩不要太好,刚卖了他。
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非常感谢老姚这张图对风险的提示, 不过我有个问题, 那个5.7个月的底能持续多久, -46.2%是怎么来的,为什么不会一路缓慢上行呢? 象这样升25%, 降50%的模型还会持续几次呢, 也就是说你怎么知道这次不是尾呢?

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为何这么多人喜欢猜大盘底部呢???难道做股票还太嫩?

等底部走出来也不晚,因为风险规避了,吃鱼吃到鱼身就应该满足了。

现在,只要用概率论对大盘保持一份警惕心就可以了。
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-46%是和最高值的比较,+25%是和低点的比较。。。

是不是底,只有神仙才知道

个人的感觉,最后的大底也许要到今年9月或者10月才会出现,而且按照艾略特波浪理论,大盘也还需要最后一个第五浪下跌;当然市场永远正确:所以仍需要走一步看一步

老鹰说的测地没有意义,有一定道理,对于一个trader来说,确实不需要太知道;不过长线的布局仍需要一些大局观(也需要跟随市场随时调整)

这个坛子已经有100万的国内基金经理,也有了300万的跨国基金经理,还有了3000万的唯多基金经理,我从下周开始准备搞一个草根2000美元的超级迷你实盘对冲基金
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是不是底,只有神仙才知道

个人的感觉,最后的大底也许要到今年9月或者10月才会出现,而且按照艾略特波浪理论,大盘也还需要最后一个第五浪下跌;当然市场永远正确:所以仍需要走一步看一步

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相信人类的基本常识和基本的恐惧感,比较有意义和可靠
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多谢老姚, 根据你的图, 感觉下周跌的可能性非常大, 你们说的对, 测底没什么意义也不大可能, 不过我玩长线, 希望找个相对低点的位置.
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多谢老姚, 根据你的图, 感觉下周跌的可能性非常大, 你们说的对, 测底没什么意义也不大可能, 不过我玩长线, 希望找个相对低点的位置.
记得02年熊市的时候,市场没有什么经济面的消息时,对于政治面的消息特别敏感:每次阿以冲突,甚至印巴冲突,甚至与华尔街横竖不沾边的某个海湾国家的罢工也让市场大跌。。。看看今日朝鲜发射导弹的消息会不会让明日华尔街地震一下
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