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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 01:27   只看该作者   #41
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要看这两个出海口的深度,大型油轮吃水狠深,码头是可以建设的,什么生活设施什么的。
油码头很简单
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共和党现在是敌人反对我就支持,敌人支持我就反对.唯一的目的就是要搞掉老黑,付出多大代价都干.

美国的政治体制已经走进死胡同.双方不顾国家利益,形如仇人,彼此寸步不让.
Yes, republicants are the irrational side.

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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 01:33   只看该作者   #43
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Yes, republicants are the irrational side.
民主党的所作所为也是为了选战,没看到最后还是留了个活话吗?这个项目还可以继续申请嘛。 其实就目前的困局来说,共和党上台也解决不了经济衰退。 都他妈操蛋。
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 10:28   只看该作者   #44
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这个,你就不懂了,
给你打个比方:你看我们现在用的电脑网络, 从米国铺了根线 到日本,再从日本到中国.
油管子,我们也就是曾么铺的.
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 10:47   只看该作者   #45
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只要这黑家伙在台上呆着,估计就没戏.

南线方案否决后,剩下的西线方案.逼的加拿大只能和中国做生意了.前两天哈婆出访中国,应该是心里有数南线要被否决了.
想起哈珀刚上台时,自断西线表忠心,真是可笑。
可见他当年的无知。
更别提leadership中最重要的vision了。

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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 11:02   只看该作者   #46
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我有个弱智问题:加拿大离中国这么远,这管道怎么哥铺设法?
加工成液态油, 但价格非常昂贵,还要防止oil spill to the ocean, 防不胜防, 还是想办法卖给美国吧.
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 11:07   只看该作者   #47
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加工成液态油, 但价格非常昂贵,还要防止oil spill to the ocean, 防不胜防, 还是想办法卖给美国吧.
不对啊,看这个新闻,说是哈珀不让建,不是O8不要啊

美国有线新闻网(CNN)周三报道说,加拿大正在努力改善与中国的关系以便能够向中国出口石油和天然气。报道中说,美国总统奥巴马在最近一次与加拿大总理斯蒂芬-哈珀(Stephen Harper)的热线通话中要求后者对拒绝批准基斯顿油砂管线项目(Keystone oil sands pipeline project)给予解释。 www.6park.com

报道中说,加拿大总理府对此给予的解释是,政府并不是反对这个项目而是希望基斯顿油砂管线能够适当调整路径和走向。书面答复中说,加拿大政府希望承建该项目的TransCanada公司在调整路线后重新申请。 www.6park.com

CNN的报道中说,这样的解释的可能无法让白宫感到满意,加拿大政府的真正意图可能是将该管线的终点移到西海岸以方便加拿大向中国出口产自艾伯塔省的石油和天然气。斯蒂芬-哈珀在书面声明中说,加拿大将继续推进能源出口多元化。报道中说,基斯顿油砂管线项目已经成为加拿大能源出口政策转变的重要关注点,该管线终点最终选在何处将对未来加拿大原油天然气出口产生重要影响。 www.6park.com

报道中指出,事实上这个项目已经成为加拿大和中国关系升温的信号。预计今年2月份加拿大总理斯蒂芬-哈珀将对中国进行正式访问,这次访问可能会对基斯顿油砂管线的走向产生影响。有传闻说,加拿大政府希望修建一条穿越原始丛林通往西海岸的管线以便为加拿大能源出口开辟一个稳定增长的新兴市场。最近几个月来,斯蒂芬-哈珀总理已经在多个场合表示,加拿大能源出口应将实现国家利益最大化放在首位。
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 11:18   只看该作者   #48
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不对啊,看这个新闻,说是哈珀不让建,不是O8不要啊

美国有线新闻网(CNN)周三报道说,加拿大正在努力改善与中国的关系以便能够向中国出口石油和天然气。报道中说,美国总统奥巴马在最近一次与加拿大总理斯蒂芬-哈珀(Stephen Harper)的热线通话中要求后者对拒绝批准基斯顿油砂管线项目(Ke...
加拿大是美国最大的石油进口国,加国超过90%的石油都出口到美国的市场,这都不利于加拿大对重油的定价和加拿大出口原料利益的最大化,市场多样化的重要性已经从美加几年前关于木材进口征税的争议上表现的淋漓尽致,不管KEYSTONE最终能不能批准,NORTHGATE都是加拿大一条有国家战略意义的项目.
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 11:20   只看该作者   #49
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加拿大是美国最大的石油进口国,加国超过90%的石油都出口到美国的市场,这都不利于加拿大对重油的定价和加拿大出口原料利益的最大化,市场多样化的重要性已经从美加几年前关于木材进口征税的争议上表现的淋漓尽致,不管KEYSTONE最终能不能批准,NORTHGATE都是加拿大一条有国家战略意义的项目.
我不明白到底是美国总统否决了还是哈珀总统否决了?

怎么两个新闻完全相反,我纳闷这个?
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 11:28   只看该作者   #50
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我不明白到底是美国总统否决了还是哈珀总统否决了?

怎么两个新闻完全相反,我纳闷这个?
奥巴马否决了KEYSTONE管线的申请,要求TRANSCANADA从新递交管线路径的申请以避开途径的一条重要水源保护区, 总之就是要拖过大选以免他得罪环境保护人士的选票.美国的共和党和一些工会组织已经就此开始抨击奥巴马政府的就业和经济政策,2党政治的游戏又开始了.
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 12:55   只看该作者   #51
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不是选举年, KEYSTONE应该能批. 女省长今天在新闻发部会上可是气鼓鼓的
别太当真。女省长前些日子去访问华盛顿时候,发言都是充满了对美国决定的理解和价值观的尊重。--都是政治需要。
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奥巴马否决了KEYSTONE管线的申请,要求TRANSCANADA从新递交管线路径的申请以避开途径的一条重要水源保护区, 总之就是要拖过大选以免他得罪环境保护人士的选票.美国的共和党和一些工会组织已经就此开始抨击奥巴马政府的就业和经济政策,2党政治的游戏又开始了.
否决的托词实在太勉强。
前条线路本身就是多条线路比较后得出的对环境影响最小的线路,那环境影响评价报告是通过了美国国家环保局EPA的审查,EPA已经是绿灯--技术和法规程序已经合格;牵涉面大的项目最后是联邦行政主管有决定权(与中国一样),OBM决定的理由是从宏观上模糊说的。

不过两党都在环保立法上走出过重要步子,象清洁能源法案和具体在美国政府的加油站(主要是军队和邮政系统)禁止使用加国油砂油等法令;应该说美国国家利益与加国利益有巨大冲突的地方。
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西线NORTHERN GATEWAY PIPELINE,昨天也报道说与BC的土族Gitxsan Nation 合同谈崩了(是第1个愿意合作的BC土族;28比8的投票结果),估计与环保组织工作有关;但是有报道中提到阿省土族基本都支持管线工程,但是BC反对的占主导,就是土族外的BC公众支持率也仅仅50%。
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../19263621.html
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旧 Jan 19th, 2012, 18:28   只看该作者   #55
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西线NORTHERN GATEWAY PIPELINE,昨天也报道说与BC的土族Gitxsan Nation 合同谈崩了(是第1个愿意合作的BC土族;28比8的投票结果),估计与环保组织工作有关;但是有报道中提到阿省土族基本都支持管线工程,但是BC反对的占主导,就是土族外的BC公众支持率也仅仅50%...
其实用铁路运也没啥不好的,老毛子不也是这么干的?!不过trans canada日子会难过些。

谢天,谢地,谢人。。。;-)
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其实用铁路运也没啥不好的,老毛子不也是这么干的?!不过trans canada日子会难过些。
哈哈,CP Rail和CN Rail日子更好过了。这种结果要辩证的看。
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伊朗如果和美国干起来,对亚省经济利好还是??
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唉,当殖民地的感觉不会太好
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其实所有的环保组织都是待价而沽的生意人。
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其实所有的环保组织都是待价而沽的生意人。
就是就是
大伙都想分一杯羹
各自都在利益博弈呢
尤其这些个嘛组织,嘛土著都争着不劳而获,吃上一辈子呢
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