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旧 May 21st, 2008, 20:02   只看该作者   #61
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敢问兄台现在Tahoe 用的是哪一种油电混合技术呢?看那个标称 城市/高速的油耗都是11.8L/100km
Tahoe实在不清楚。我研究过prius和hybrid camry。不过那位仁兄说凡是hybrid,省油原理都差不多。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 20:16   只看该作者   #62
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 20:34   只看该作者   #63
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楼主怎么不回答价格问题?高兴的忘了还是要保密?说一下吧,看看能否说服LD买一辆
用我家LD的话说,不想家里两个都是FORD的,所以买个别的,不过新的ESCAPE比旧的好看了
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 21:12   只看该作者   #64
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我原来跟你想得一样。可是发动机的转速在3000以上,功率输出在接近最大功率或者标称功率时效率最高。在我驾驶过程中,99%上不到2500转,很多时候只有1000-1500转,这不可能是省油的原因。

而且我看了手册,其中说为了省油,启动刹车轻柔是最关键的,尤其是刹车制动时提前慢刹。
发动机的效率应该和很多因素都有关,转速只是其中一个,我觉得负载也很重要。
在国内开车的时候,师傅总是说“要省油,高档位”高档位不就会降低发动机转速嘛?
实际上,高速上强制降档,弄在3000转,我看肯定耗油,当然也毁车。

那个丰田的工程师也告诉我一些东西。比如,如果你开普通camry,一脚油门从0窜到50km/h,这是大部分司机常有的事情,在这个过程中发动机的热效率不到15%。如果冬天冷起步,就更低了。作为hybrid Camry,此时效率至少能提高到30%以上。大部分的车,在冷车启动行驶一公里内,大约是25L/100KM,冬天可能到40L/100km。这时候hybrid的优势特别明显。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 22:52   只看该作者   #65
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keyless includes in option Convenience group.

do you have information screen with compass and tempture?
没有指南针。别的都有。

放长线,钓大鱼…… 我喜欢做长线投资。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 22:56   只看该作者   #66
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楼主怎么不回答价格问题?高兴的忘了还是要保密?说一下吧,看看能否说服LD买一辆
看贴不仔细,我不是说了比在加拿大买的常规动力四轮驱动六缸贵5%了么。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 22:59   只看该作者   #67
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他一技术狂人,什么新就爱折腾什么,没准过两天找你要求拆车......小心
我也是技术狂人,早把能拆得拆了。。。。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 23:02   只看该作者   #68
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问一下楼主,找一个愿意卖给canadian的美国ford dealer容易吗?
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 23:07   只看该作者   #69
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没有指南针。别的都有。
如果有温度显示就肯定有指南政,当然是字符的,不是针,就是ESWN。

如果有这个显示的屏幕就是安了一个option它包括密码锁。
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旧 May 21st, 2008, 23:22   只看该作者   #70
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一看就是开惯了大排量车,高速降档才3000转

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实际上,高速上强制降档,弄在3000转,我看肯定耗油,当然也毁车

My lord, it is impossible. I am sorry.
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 06:02   只看该作者   #71
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一看就是开惯了大排量车,高速降档才3000转
反了吧?
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 08:27   只看该作者   #72
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我也是技术狂人,早把能拆得拆了。。。。
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 08:29   只看该作者   #73
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发动机的效率应该和很多因素都有关,转速只是其中一个,我觉得负载也很重要。
在国内开车的时候,师傅总是说“要省油,高档位”高档位不就会降低发动机转速嘛?
实际上,高速上强制降档,弄在3000转,我看肯定耗油,当然也毁车。

那个丰田的工程师也告诉我一些东西。比如,如果你开普通camry,一脚油...
发动机是输出在最大功率输出的转数上效率最高
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 12:20   只看该作者   #74
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Hybid省油不错,就是Torque太小。 还不知道这么多新技术放在一起,成熟度如何?
FYI http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm 有各车型的油耗评估,
查了一下,还是柴油的油耗真低呀!就是柴油现在价格太高了
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 12:46   只看该作者   #75
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那个电池有点过份呀。镍氢电池能这么牛?没听说电池技术有什么突破呀。
镍氢电池冲放千次已经是神奇了。哪怕是30%放电量!镍氢电池还有电流
小的毛病,不知怎么克服的?

电脑电池控制纯粹吹!电池的问题是性能有发散性!一堆电池里,准有
某几个怪异份子!有空可以学学hybrid是怎么处理这个问题的。

电池技术今后的发展趋势是锂铁技术。政府说要给hybrid的优惠,不知给了吗?
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 17:31   只看该作者   #76
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我不是很敢接受新鲜事物... TDI冬天是要预热一下, 等那个灯灭了再启动, 这是柴油机的特点, 不是毛病
你说的是哪年的车?我没有看见灯。就是不启动,除非用上电热器。新车还好,旧的柴油车确实冷天难以启动,你想柴油都成了糊糊状了,能好启动么?
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 17:34   只看该作者   #77
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问一下楼主,找一个愿意卖给canadian的美国ford dealer容易吗?
我是找了个加拿大的DEALER,让他从美国进口,我交两千手续费。
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 17:35   只看该作者   #78
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如果有温度显示就肯定有指南政,当然是字符的,不是针,就是ESWN。

如果有这个显示的屏幕就是安了一个option它包括密码锁。
有温度但没有字符指南针呀!不信你来看。
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 17:37   只看该作者   #79
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Hybid省油不错,就是Torque太小。 还不知道这么多新技术放在一起,成熟度如何?
FYI http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm 有各车型的油耗评估,
查了一下,还是柴油的油耗真低呀!就是柴油现在价格太高了...
这你完全错了,电机的扭矩,在低转时时最大的。
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旧 May 22nd, 2008, 17:40   只看该作者   #80
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你说的是哪年的车?我没有看见灯。就是不启动,除非用上电热器。新车还好,旧的柴油车确实冷天难以启动,你想柴油都成了糊糊状了,能好启动么?
可能那车没有用高标号的柴油?那个电加温的东西N多年前就用上了,以前中国从日本进口的扶桑柴油车就有这个了,那时候我好像刚刚上小学的样子
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