挑车买车 Audi A4 or Mercedes C300 - 第4页

brad · Sep 13th, 2012, 11:24

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作者: 蓝魔

$2000 保 BMW 在多伦多是这个行情，这算是低的了。

A4 和 C300 是完全不一样的车。C300 跟你的 323 性能差不多，很慢的，开起来没有什么激情，不是那种越开越过瘾，没事都想出去溜弯的感觉。不只是因为 C300 车身笨重，引擎 underpowered，而且还跟 C300 的...

what about used, like 2009 or 2010 C63 AMG?

aaronding · Sep 13th, 2012, 12:02

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作者: busrel

关键你住哪？如果steels以南的市区很难这个价格吧？

我住scarborough town center就这价钱

蓝魔 · Sep 13th, 2012, 12:19

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作者: brad

对于没有经过什么训练的人，那么小的车放上400多甚至500 马力，是不是容易出问题亚

没什么问题，引擎输出大了，车的设计齿轮箱必定降低齿轮比，否则再多的扭力只能打滑。齿轮比降低后，每档内的加速范围提高了，而且高档仍然能够维持比较强的扭力输出。

比如说，你一辆 200hp 的车，1 档和2 档的推背感力量很大，但是很快就到头需要上3档，而到了 3 档后，力量就明显下降了。

而一辆 400hp 的车， 1 档和2档的推背感区别并不比 200hp 大，但是它能持续加速的时间更长，而且上了 3 档后，力量仍然不会下降多少。

基本上就是 hp = speed，400-500hp 的车只有速度上去了，才能体会到高速下仍然很强的加速的优点，从 120km/h 到 200km/h 的加速你会体验到跟普通车 40-80km/h 的加速力量一样。

我在开 500hp BMW M5 的时候，感觉上很容易开，没什么特别的地方。推背感并没有怎么增强，只是每个档的加速范围广了，不知不觉加速因为持续时间长，最后达到的速度更快了。但是仍然要在合适的档位，否则任凭 500hp，拿5档想在 100km/h 加速，仍然慢的要死，只有降到 3 档才行。

bodonixx · Sep 13th, 2012, 23:30

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作者: 蓝魔

没什么问题，引擎输出大了，车的设计齿轮箱必定降低齿轮比，否则再多的扭力只能打滑。齿轮比降低后，每档内的加速范围提高了，而且高档仍然能够维持比较强的扭力输出。

比如说，你一辆 200hp 的车，1 档和2 档的推背感力量很大，但是很快就到头需要上3档，而到了 3 档后，力量就明显下降了。

...

还有得看扭力和车重是吧

所以，我总觉着同级别的奥迪比2B的启动要更快。

aaronding · Sep 14th, 2012, 09:50

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作者: bodonixx

还有得看扭力和车重是吧

所以，我总觉着同级别的奥迪比2B的启动要更快。

四驱启动都快，不过速度一上去就不行了。

爱在深秋 · Sep 14th, 2012, 11:09

人家 Q5 那个车都提回来了。这个还没定？

bodonixx · Sep 14th, 2012, 11:23

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四驱启动都快，不过速度一上去就不行了。

那是， g37s 马力比 335i大，启动也比335快，但是到了中后段提速，明显不如335给力

蓝魔 · Sep 14th, 2012, 11:28

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作者: bodonixx

那是， g37s 马力比 335i大，启动也比335快，但是到了中后段提速，明显不如335给力

我告诉过你了，起步不重要，差不多就行了。

关键是中后段提速，引擎的反应，扭力范围是否广，还有就是油门不是全开时 (partial throttle) 时的表现，这些是数字体现不出来的，要开过才知道。

aaronding · Sep 14th, 2012, 12:04

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作者: bodonixx

那是， g37s 马力比 335i大，启动也比335快，但是到了中后段提速，明显不如335给力

你说的马力是厂家标的马力，dyno一下就会发现两辆车的hp是一样大的

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/12346-2008-Infiniti-G37-Dyno.jpg

http://images.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_c_bmw_335i_dyno.jpg

MMDGG · Sep 14th, 2012, 12:43

G37 好过335阿。

夜的第七章 · Sep 14th, 2012, 13:33

我喜欢C300.长的好看

brad · Sep 14th, 2012, 15:54

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人家 Q5 那个车都提回来了。这个还没定？

just sold my 323, trying to bring back another one by next week.

蓝魔 · Sep 14th, 2012, 16:06

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just sold my 323, trying to bring back another one by next week.

what do you plan to buy at the end?

brad · Sep 14th, 2012, 16:38

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what do you plan to buy at the end?

i am gong to see a 2010 C63 AMG tonight. it has 20,000km, and lots of options, even sun block on sides and back. he asked for $55,000. how do you think of this? the price is a little high, but I will try to bargain it.
back to C300 and A4, I prefer C300, because I don't want to keep two Audi in my garage, and C300 is more attractive in terms of style and design.
Also there is another 2011 S4 on the market, $46,000, 40,000km, but that will be my last option.
any comments?

aaronding · Sep 14th, 2012, 16:41

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作者: brad

i am gong to see a 2010 C63 AMG tonight. it has 20,000km, and lots of options, even sun block on sides and back. he asked for $55,000. how do you thin...

跟这个一比C63就得扔垃圾堆里

http://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesforyou/m/m3/f80/spyshots/engine/f80m3engine1.jpg

http://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesforyou/m/m3/f80/spyshots/engine/f80m3engine2.jpg

brad · Sep 14th, 2012, 16:43

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跟这个一比C63就得扔垃圾堆里
http://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesfor...0m3engine1.jpg
http://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesforyou/m/m3/f80/spy...

chasing a good car is endless

bodonixx · Sep 14th, 2012, 16:51

八毛又来了

别摸我忠实支持者

呵呵，不过别摸我除了内饰烂点，其他方面还行。

brad · Sep 17th, 2012, 21:44

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what do you plan to buy at the end?

I tried 2010 C63 AMG and 2011 S4. Both are good. Considering the long period of winter in Calgary, I decided to go with S4. Also, I really like the feeling of S4's supercharged engine.
I will post some pics once I take over the car next week.

蓝魔 · Sep 17th, 2012, 23:16

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I tried 2010 C63 AMG and 2011 S4. Both are good. Considering the long period of winter in Calgary, I decided to go with S4. Also, I really like the fe...

You won't go wrong with either of them!

I am also a fan of supercharger over turbocharger. Love its no lag response, supercharger whine, and high rev power delivery.

brad · Sep 26th, 2012, 11:20

[QUOTE=蓝魔;4698591]You won't go wrong with either of them!

I am also a fan of supercharger over turbocharger. Love its no lag response, supercharger whine, and high ...[/QUOTE
Things changed.
The S4's owner cannot finish the deal because he cannot borrow money and pay off financing with Audi Canada first.
I have to look for others.
what about these two?
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ405587842
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ416643653

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