【讨论】猪流感疫苗：打还是不打？

[sage]

建议大家都看看这个presentation。是我一个搞传染病研究的朋友发来的。她以前在国内是妇科医生。

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...YzRkMDMw&hl=en

[米呵呵]

作者: wiki

建议大家都看看这个presentation。是我一个搞传染病研究的朋友发来的。她以前在国内是妇科医生。

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...iZmVlYzRkMDMw&...

谢谢，我已经download下来了。

[suexuhoang]

儿子6岁，女儿2岁半，儿子打完预防针后没有任何反应，女儿出现感冒症状，发烧约38度，咳嗽有痰，还有轻微呕吐，拉肚子现象，担心中。。。。。。

[dangbl]

国内３岁以下不给打

这里６个月以上就可以打

难道疫苗不同吗，疑惑ｉｎｇ

[回家]

作者: 猫在江湖

跟大家汇报一下， 我和小宝都打了。
总的来说 还可以。 我有轻微的肌肉酸痛， 扎针的那个胳膊， 有点红肿。 有点按压的痛。

小宝 11个月， 当天晚上有轻微低烧， 37.5左右， 给了tylenol， 第二天白天有点嗜睡，少胃口。 第二天晚上不肯睡觉， 折腾到很晚。 今天是第三天中午状况...

听说小孩要打两针，是这样吗

[dangbl]

作者: 回家

听说小孩要打两针，是这样吗

是的，第二针２０天以后打

[anuokiki]

no, they changed. Only once

[猫在江湖]

作者: 回家

听说小孩要打两针，是这样吗

yes

[泉映月鸣沙]

我家那位有个理论，他说这流感好象对亚洲人的影响没欧美那么大，打预防针的事还是先放一放，等情况明朗一点再说

[anuokiki]

no

[anuokiki]

作者: 猫在江湖

yes

no

[浮 云]

应该是打两次，中间间隔21天的，但因为疫苗短缺，为了让更多的孩子能接受疫苗接种，WHO最近建议每个孩子只打一针。

One Dose Of H1N1 Vaccine Or Two?
By Richard Knox
October 30, 2009

Even kids can get by with a single dose of swine flu vaccine, says the World Health Organization. But the U.S. is not so sure just yet.

WHO previously recommended two shots for kids younger than 10. But the new one-shot deal contradicts current U.S. policy, which calls for two shots (or nasal spritzes) in this age group.

After a two-day meeting in Geneva, WHO officials acknowledge data are sparse on whether a single dose protects younger kids against the new H1N1 virus. But vaccine shortages have forced them to reconsider.

"The priority is to give...one dose rather than vaccinate half the number of children with two doses," says Dr. Marie-Paule Kieny, director of WHO's Initiative for Vaccine Research.


US officials seemed surprised at the WHO statement.

More data on young children's response to a single dose of vaccine are expected in the next week or so, officials say.

"Preliminary data did not show the kind of response in younger children we'd hoped for in order to say a single dose would be sufficient," says CDC director Thomas Frieden. "But...if the data show a difference, we will reconsider our recommendations."

For now, he adds, the CDC is sticking with its earlier recommendations.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, points out that only 25 to 36 percent of children under 10 achieved an antibody level considered protective against the new H1N1 virus.

But that was only 10 days after the first vaccine dose. The new data expected in early November will show what young children's antibody levels were three weeks after a single dose. It's possible they could be higher, Fauci says, but studies in adults didn't show much higher levels at 21 days than at 10 days.

Meanwhile, millions of US children will soon be due for their second dose of vaccine -- and millions more haven't had their first dose because the vaccine has been in short supply. So it might be tempting to adopt the WHO's new recommendation.

But Fauci counsels caution.

"One of the dangers in jumping ahead and saying you want to stretch out the supply by giving a single dose to these young kids," Fauci says, "is that you'll be under-protecting them."

If that happened, he says, we wouldn't be saving a dose for each vaccinated child. We'd be wasting a dose.

[twinbabygirls]

这个疫苗感觉还很不稳定。我们家全打了，自我感觉就是乏力。倒是2个宝宝（21月），一个精神比我们还好，另一个星期四8pm打完，半夜开始发烧，已经2天了。像感冒，正吃着泰诺呢。

[sage]

作者: anuokiki

no, they changed. Only once

俺村的小朋友都要打两次针，一次一半剂量，中间必须相隔21天。

[rosymerry]

作者: twinbabygirls

这个疫苗感觉还很不稳定。我们家全打了，自我感觉就是乏力。倒是2个宝宝（21月），一个精神比我们还好，另一个星期四8pm打完，半夜开始发烧，已经2天了。像感冒，正吃着泰诺呢。

我们家老二也是一样，就和老大两星期前的得症状一样，发高烧，比以往得流感的情况严重。退热药的多不好使。并不是向育苗上介绍的那样，只有轻微的发热。另外对于9岁以下到底要不要打第二针，何时打，还缺少临床数据支持。

[米呵呵]

那份presentation里面，普通人感染的概率是9-12%，而家里有小孩的人概率是42%
为什么呢？我不明白。

[dangbl]

作者: 浮 云

应该是打两次，中间间隔21天的，但因为疫苗短缺，为了让更多的孩子能接受疫苗接种，WHO最近建议每个孩子只打一针。

浮云ｍｍ知道这里的疫苗是加拿大生产的还是从中国进口的吗

美国有些州的疫苗是从中国进口的

[twinbabygirls]

作者: dangbl

浮云ｍｍ知道这里的疫苗是加拿大生产的还是从中国进口的吗

美国有些州的疫苗是从中国进口的

中国这么牛啦，骄傲ing。想想国庆阅兵时，有多少中国人给先人体试验了，加拿大对疫苗才有持无恐。呵呵。

[浮 云]

作者: dangbl

浮云ｍｍ知道这里的疫苗是加拿大生产的还是从中国进口的吗

美国有些州的疫苗是从中国进口的

现在加拿大用的疫苗是由加拿大制药厂GlaxoSmithKline Inc 制造的。
要是以后不够不知道会不会从中国进口。

[闲人.]

我们村大人去打了，周六早上6点半排到中午12点半历时6个小时。