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旧 Sep 10th, 2009, 22:20   只看该作者   #121
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FAZ和FAZ长期总的趋势为向下。 如果同时用远期 Bearish Spreads PUT在FAS和FAZ可否赢利?还是买远期卖近期PUT好?
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旧 Sep 11th, 2009, 10:17   只看该作者   #122
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买的bull put 成交了。long 160 put,sell 165 put。 0.52/1.21
组合继续收钱

东山兄的方法还挺好用。
虽然赚小钱,但比较稳。
东山兄,这个组合到昨天时,赚了590,今天delta 30左右,theta 90左右,但今天亏85,似乎跟你的理论不太对,能否帮我分析一下?
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旧 Sep 11th, 2009, 11:34   只看该作者   #123
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我查了哈,
SEP 160 PUT的DELTA是-0.061,THETA是-0.0741

SEP 165 PUT的DELTA是-0.1518,THETA是-0.1282

你这个组合的DELTA是0.09,THETA是0.05,如果你卖了10个组合,

DELTA是90,THETA是50,今天APPLE掉了0.18,你亏点小钱了



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东山兄,这个组合到昨天时,赚了590,今天delta 30左右,theta 90左右,但今天亏85,似乎跟你的理论不太对,能否帮我分析一下?

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旧 Sep 11th, 2009, 13:27   只看该作者   #124
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我查了哈,
SEP 160 PUT的DELTA是-0.061,THETA是-0.0741

SEP 165 PUT的DELTA是-0.1518,THETA是-0.1282

你这个组合的DELTA是0.09,THETA是0.05,如果你卖了10个组合,

DELTA是90,THETA是...
我的组合还有 sell 180 call + long 185 call
delta,theta没怎么变,刚才亏钱现在又变回正20块了。
看样子,不能太拘泥于这个greek。

不过,总体来讲,还是不错。用了5000块的buying power,三天赚了600。
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旧 Sep 11th, 2009, 17:05   只看该作者   #125
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大家知道哪里有卖钢制二节棍的,据说在加拿大定为凶器。东山目前用的是工艺品二节棍在

练习不过瘾,另外上次在国内看到过有二节棍练习组织,这里有没有,或者有没有耍得好

的。谢谢
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旧 Sep 15th, 2009, 12:40   只看该作者   #126
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东山兄呢,又闭关去了?

修炼两节棍去了?
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旧 Sep 15th, 2009, 13:08   只看该作者   #127
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前两天做了fslr的组合,今天差点暴掉,赶快平了卖的call,现在回来一半。

顺便问一下东山兄,当你做iron condor时,如果股价暴涨或暴跌到你的赢亏点时,也就是delta偏离neutual时,你是如何调整?
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旧 Sep 15th, 2009, 15:00   只看该作者   #128
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我的组合还有 sell 180 call + long 185 call
delta,theta没怎么变,刚才亏钱现在又变回正20块了。
看样子,不能太拘泥于这个greek。

不过,总体来讲,还是不错。用了5000块的buying power,三天赚了600。
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前两天做了fslr的组合,今天差点暴掉,赶快平了卖的call,现在回来一半。

顺便问一下东山兄,当你做iron condor时,如果股价暴涨或暴跌到你的赢亏点时,也就是delta偏离neutual时,你是如何调整?
感谢老愚的实盘跟进,让大家有更深的认识。

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旧 Sep 15th, 2009, 15:43   只看该作者   #129
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多品种相互HEDGE吧,早两天我就用PCX对冲了一下

愚兄,我一个VEGA没讲,你出现了很多问题啊

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前两天做了fslr的组合,今天差点暴掉,赶快平了卖的call,现在回来一半。

顺便问一下东山兄,当你做iron condor时,如果股价暴涨或暴跌到你的赢亏点时,也就是delta偏离neutual时,你是如何调整?
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旧 Sep 15th, 2009, 15:47   只看该作者   #130
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东山从YOUTUBE上请了几位老师,进步也很大,这是其中一位外籍美女老师


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感谢老愚的实盘跟进,让大家有更深的认识。

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感谢老愚的实盘跟进,让大家有更深的认识。

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最后两个字怎么念?什么意思?
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多品种相互HEDGE吧,早两天我就用PCX对冲了一下

愚兄,我一个VEGA没讲,你出现了很多问题啊
我觉得不能碰volatility太大的股票,波动一大,很容易冲破盈利区间。
pcx这两天暴涨,你怎么hedge?
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连续十天的组合盈利今天破了,亏了400余。亏在今天的fslr和pot上。
东山兄和老姚一起帮我分析一下昨天作的pot oct 组合
long 75 put/ short 80 put
long 100 call/ short 95 call
现在delta -102,theta 21, vega-31

如何补救,是接着卖高位的call呢,还是加仓short put?
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多谢老姚的关键指示, 这个组合已有不少的帐面赢利.


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背景: 跟老姚看涨SPY, 买入Vertical Spread

组合: BUY CALL SEP @106, SELL CALL SEP @107
价格: $0.13
数量: N
最大风险: 买入价格0.13N, (条件: SPY 低于$106)
最大收益: (107-106-...
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关键在于对冲,即得尔他对冲,LONG SHORT结合,股票的涨跌对组合不起任何作用,

TRADE TIME VALUE AND VOLATILITY

到那时: 宠辱不惊,看股票花开花落;去留无意,望天空云卷云舒

关于对冲,大家有没有问题,一起讨论啊:biggrin...
精华 贴 原创 不出了。

据 冥王星 电, SHORT TERM DISABILITY。 BE PATIENCT。


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学习了一遍,收获不小。

有一点没有搞明白。我们上OPTION的目的是以小赌大,这些组合叫人眼花了乱。需要建立数学模型还算来算去,这么多影响指标。

还是简单点好,看准一个买C和P得了。

烧一定要小心。
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太对了, 买call和put能解决80%问题,偶尔用以下简单的组合,太复杂的组合只会给Broker交更多的手续费,同样存在风险.

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学习了一遍,收获不小。

有一点没有搞明白。我们上OPTION的目的是以小赌大,这些组合叫人眼花了乱。需要建立数学模型还算来算去,这么多影响指标。

还是简单点好,看准一个买C和P得了。

烧一定要小心。
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不服大师的拥有股票卖OPTION的办法,有点意思!

我感觉这种方法适合价格较高,并且稳定的股票。向老野提到的XOM。
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学习了一遍,收获不小。

有一点没有搞明白。我们上OPTION的目的是以小赌大,这些组合叫人眼花了乱。需要建立数学模型还算来算去,这么多影响指标。

还是简单点好,看准一个买C和P得了。

烧一定要小心。
老彭,那是你还没理解其中的奥妙
打个比方,直接买call和put是拿步枪打靶,打到7环以上才算。
组合相当于拿机关枪打靶,打到靶都算。
前者用弹(钱)少,但要经验和眼力(像老姚那样),新手打脱靶的机会多很多
后者用弹(margin)多,打中靶的几率要大得多。但赚的少。
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实际上对我们广大小散,买单向的C和P就够了。

不过把OPTION中各种指标搞明白,用好是必须的。
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