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旧 Sep 1st, 2008, 13:48     #1
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为下一步DIY更换作准备。问过专业人士,要换就连compressor一起换,工料得450。心痛,手痒........

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Magnetic Clutch is mechanical controller to between engine and compressor
It consist of Armature, Pulley & Field Coil.

Armature transmit the power to the compressor through the shaft.
Pulley spins while the engine opearting by V-belt.
Field coil generate the electricity by inside coil.

When A/C switch turn on, electricity is generated on Field coil,
and it makes the armature adhere with the pulley.
Then the compressor compress the refrigerant and send it to the condenser.


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2.special tool to remove clutch plate.
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2299/installingmagnetek9.jpg

3. Special tool(wow, this is what I need to do first)
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1169/toolwe2.jpg
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上面那个工具的发明者叫Eric.我不认识他,向他表示感谢。

http://tips.mitchellondemand.com/?p=23

但我没搞懂,他用这个拆什么?

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旧 Sep 1st, 2008, 14:34   只看该作者   #5
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这个procedure是给caravan的。先留着作参考,内容太多,要慢慢消化。

http://www.freeengineinfo.com/dodge-...eplacement.htm
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这位大侠的活儿,给了我一个很好的提醒:先拆下compressor assembly,活儿就会好干得多。诸位大侠说是不是?

http://www.alfafaq.com/id27.html
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可以用以下工具代用

http://www.otctools.com/products/detail.php?id=1491

CT应当有出租。

但单独买clutch好像不太容易。
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可以用以下工具代用

http://www.otctools.com/products/detail.php?id=1491

CT应当有出租。

但单独买clutch好像不太容易。
多谢关注。那个工具我能搞定。

我想去JUNKYARD拆个clutch,然后自己换上,这样行不?
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这位大侠的活儿,给了我一个很好的提醒:先拆下compressor assembly,活儿就会好干得多。诸位大侠说是不是?

http://www.alfafaq.com/id27.html
不是,拆了compressor多半就要卸管道。如果原来空调系统基本正常就增加工作量和成本。小工程就变成大工程了。
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不是,拆了compressor多半就要卸管道。如果原来空调系统基本正常就增加工作量和成本。小工程就变成大工程了。
我的意思是,将compressor assembly从engine block上整体拆下来,不动管线。因为连接compressor的管线是rubber,有弹性,是不是最可以会动手拆clutch了?我得看一下我的车是不是这种情形。多谢你提醒。
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多谢关注。我想去JUNKYARD拆一下clutch,然后自己换上,这样行不?
当然行,问题是如果拆的不太新,那么也无法保证质量。而且压缩机的构造很多种,你的和那些图中的可能差别很大。

BTW,拆的时候别忘了那些shim。
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当然行,问题是如果拆的不太新,那么也无法保证质量。而且压缩机的构造很多种,你的和那些图中的可能差别很大。

BTW,拆的时候别忘了那些shim。
是的。我打算先拆我车上坏的这个,看看什么状况,再量量尺寸,拍个照5的。再去拆车场找一样的clutch.磨损的也没办法,我就是将就A/C工作,先把那噪声消灭再说。
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当然行,问题是如果拆的不太新,那么也无法保证质量。而且压缩机的构造很多种,你的和那些图中的可能差别很大。

BTW,拆的时候别忘了那些shim。
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7374/78279096tx4.gif
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请教一下:
1.上图中的spacer是不是shim?
2.那个特殊工具是不是hold clutch plate,以便拧retain bolt?
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Once compressor is off set it like the following pic and remove the 10mm screw in the middle of the pulley.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1394/picture520mq4.jpg
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Then carefully remove the outer part of the Clutch.(There is a special tool which I didn't have I used to screw drivers but be careful)
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/88/picture521jm9.jpg
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Then either the shims will come out with the outer peice like mine did or they will be sitting on the shaft once the outer part is removed.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1283/picture523nb3.jpg
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If you look closely the washers/shims are different thicknesses. You will need to Measure the thickness and then find one a little thinner and reinstall and check the Gap between the outer and inner part of the clutch.
I will have to find out the exact specs but I believe it needs to be .016 Cannot be more than .020.
Use a fueller gauge to measure the gap.


The above is from this link: http://www.volvo-forums.com/t9100-re...sor-clutch.htm
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估计你那噪声根本就不是clutch的问题,而是压缩机内部
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估计你那噪声根本就不是clutch的问题,而是压缩机内部
那噪声就象磨铁片的声音。问过车行,也认为是clutch问题。但究竟是clutch的哪部分磨哪部分,现在还搞不清。但从现象来看,a/c on时,声音消失。或者车启动后几分钟后消失。有时响的厉害,有时不响。

请教:compressor会发出同样的噪声吗?为什么?

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刚才拍了张compressor位置的照片,如图所示。

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红箭头所指是连接compressor的两根管,除头部是金属外,其余有半米多长的橡胶管连接。因此,如此将compressor mounting bolt拆除,compressor assembly就可以拿到车前部或翻转向上进行操作。不知大侠们意下如何。
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这个也有助于了解clutch disassembly

http://members.rennlist.com/elsies91...nsoRebuild.htm
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nnd,好不容易拍了几张clutch实物照,是透过fender空隙拍到的,效果不太好。跟‘偷拍’似的。

Top view is ok.

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那些spacer就是所谓shim,用来调间隙的,大了吸不上,小了会有摩擦噪声。

一般来说压缩机的噪声由于某个轴承磨损了造成的,Clutch处比较多。能吸和,电(吸和线圈)就没问题。机械部分拆下来如果看不出好坏,加一个垫片就可以顶那么一段时间(不是太建议)。

你的车压缩机可能要从底部拉出来,如果有足够空间就不要卸压缩机,反正以能操作为准。另外装皮带要注意张力,太紧也会出现类似噪音或损坏。
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