进军奥斯卡部分电影点评

[newman]

《百万宝贝(million dollar baby)》非常好的电影，是老克林特。伊斯特武德执导以来最好的作品。演员表演到位，剧情紧凑，内涵深，节奏张弛有度，非常干净。绝对是2004年最棒的电影之一。

《骚灵教父（Ray)>非常好的传记电影，音乐一流，主演杰米。副客斯演技也一流。导演到位，没有多余的镜头或让人感到闷的段落。2004年最棒的电影之一。

<飞行着（Aviator)>, 还凑和。一流的导演，但不是老马丁一流的作品（个人认为该导演的最好作品是他70年代的《出租车司机》）。演员小帅哥的演技进步了，但是还可以磨练。节奏有些段落不紧凑，让人觉得闷。同样是传记电影，不如“RAY", 也不如两年前的“a beautiful mind".

还没看《sideways>, 不好置评。个人认为，最佳电影很可能会在《百万宝贝》和《骚灵教父〉中产生。老马丁从未获最佳导演桂冠，这一次可能会补偿性获奖。老克林特。伊斯特武德如果获最佳导演倒是实至名归。

[DT_Magic]

还没看过《百万宝贝》，但记得影评不佳，票房也极差。
《飞行者》看了，因为以前工作曾经使用过休斯公司的产品，所以有些兴趣，呵呵。里面的里奥纳多那口音可真难听，破锣似的，不知道是不是有意模仿出来的。
还有整三个月才能有《星球大战》可看，这三个月可真够闷的了，简直没个值得一看的大作。

[newman]

至于口音的问题,你看西片太少了吧. 即便是好莱屋电影,演员门为了电影角色的关系,模范不同地方的口音是基本的工夫,不只如此,不少演员对于唱歌跳舞什么的都得亲力亲为,和国内演员动不动就找替身大不相同.

我估计在你看来,这世上根本就没什么电影"大作". 不怪你,许多看不懂电影的人在写影评呢.

作者: DT_Magic

还没看过《百万宝贝》，但记得影评不佳，票房也极差。
《飞行者》看了，因为以前工作曾经使用过休斯公司的产品，所以有些兴趣，呵呵。里面的里奥纳多那口音可真难听，破锣似的，不知道是不是有意模仿出来的。
还有整三个月才能有《星球大战》可看，这三个月可真够闷的了，简直没个值得一看的大作。

[ananda]

作者: DT_Magic

还没看过《百万宝贝》，但记得影评不佳，票房也极差。
《飞行者》看了，因为以前工作曾经使用过休斯公司的产品，所以有些兴趣，呵呵。里面的里奥纳多那口音可真难听，破锣似的，不知道是不是有意模仿出来的。
还有整三个月才能有《星球大战》可看，这三个月可真够闷的了，简直没个值得一看的大作。

去看《康斯坦丁》吧。

[newman]

看了之后,决的一般. 影评好不过是因为该片优点不同而已. 有点当年"美国丽人"的路数,当是不如其精致.

[rabbitjessy]

How do you think that " Hotel of Rewanda"?

[wormcc]

Newman, may I ask why you think "taxi driver" is very good? I watched it before and didn't have feeling for it, though I like Robert De Nero, hehe. In one word, I don't know what it wants to express.

[newman]

haven't got a chance to watch it, a colleague said it is good, I guess the "resecure fantasy" still working in mainstream North American.

作者: rabbitjessy

How do you think that " Hotel of Rewanda"?

[newman]

first of all, I am not a critic who is paid to write a review on a movie. My opinion about certain movies are only based on my own judgement. Therefore, I think <Alexander> was not as bad as it was rated by the critics. I also think <A big fat Greek wedding> was not as good as it was rated.

to watch a movie, a man/woman will have to experience two different stages, one, I call it "sense", which means u watch the movie with critic's lenses, u try to judge if it is a good movie or not. I don't like this experience at all, however, I may come to a conclusion when I finished watching a movie.

the other, i call it "sentivity", which means u enjoy watching a movie, totally forget your critical lenses. That is heaven, if u enjoy watching a movie, watching a movie itself is a remarkable thing, isn't it? However, only a few movies will give me such a wonderful exprience.

Now let me get back to u about your question. To answer your question, I have to ask your questions first: Did u enjoy watching <taxi driver>? If not, do u think u would like to watch it again? For what reason? If yes, why do u want to know why?

作者: wormcc

Newman, may I ask why you think "taxi driver" is very good? I watched it before and didn't have feeling for it, though I like Robert De Nero, hehe. In one word, I don't know what it wants to express.

[jumpfish]

Million Dollar Baby不想看,Aviator还没来得急看.Sideways瞄了两眼,没细看.
我还是更喜欢Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,更风格化一点.

[wormcc]

作者: newman

the other, i call it "sentivity", which means u enjoy watching a movie, totally forget your critical lenses. That is heaven, if u enjoy watching a movie, watching a movie itself is a remarkable thing, isn't it? However, only a few movies will give me such a wonderful exprience.

I agree, so in my point of view, "a beautiful mind" is a good movie because it's touching.

作者: newman

Now let me get back to u about your question. To answer your question, I have to ask your questions first: Did u enjoy watching <taxi driver>? If not, do u think u would like to watch it again? For what reason? If yes, why do u want to know why?

I just be curious... what makes it good. Maybe I missed something? As to your question, I have to admit although I enjoy watching De Nero's acting, I don't enjoy the "taxi driver". IMHO, Martin was so bounded in "gangs" movies with violence and depress, which I don't appreciate -- I haven't watched Aviator yet, hope it can change my impression.

[jumpfish]

今天去一小学,听两女老师闲聊,一个说周末她带父母去看电影,就是OSCAR上最后的赢家Million Dollar Baby,看完的结论是What a waste of time!原来看名字以为还是喜剧片,更糟糕的是本来想带父母轻松一下,结果引来一个争取女子平等权力这么严肃的东东.

感想:1)起名很重要;2)OSCAR对这边一般人可能真算不了什么,不关心.OSCAR中间Chris放的一段街头采访也说明这个问题.

[newman]

“好”电影，关键的问题：由谁来定义“好”与“不好”？

毫无疑问，批评家有他们的定义，我们每个人都可以有自己的定义。因此，我认为“好”，你完全可以认为“不好”。但是我可能会笑你“没品位”，你也可以反驳我“脱离群众”，搞资产阶级的“阳春白雪”，云云。

一言以蔽之，“好”与“不好”可以认为是“个人化”的。比如，我在坛子上说王家卫《2046》烂极了；有朋友说，我觉得不错；我说，“此言差矣。”并论证说“烂”在何处。那是我的观点，你可以不同意，也可以同意，还可以认为我的评论你一点都不在乎，不感兴趣。

《出租车司机》为什么我认为好？原因如下：

一，可看性强，娱乐性强。或者说，看的时候不会觉得“闷”（看的过程中不会开小差），不会觉得“长”（不会边看边想“怎么还没完？”）；看的时候容易让你投入进去，暂时忘记别的事情。个人认为，就这一基本标准，好莱坞的95%电影都不达标。中国的99。99%电影都不值得一看。

通常制作精良的电影，无论是批评界极不看好的“大片”，或者是“独立电影”，只要“好看”（在我是娱乐性强的意思），就算是及格了。因此，007系列电影中有些挺“好看"的；《功夫》好看；《2046》不好看；《十面埋伏》《英雄》难看死了。《出租车司机》无疑在我看来是“好看”的电影之一。

二，思想性（我不喜欢这个词，但是将就先用吧），换句话说，看完后又没有“想头”。当然这个标准更加因人而异，因为各个人的价值观念/人生理想等等更是大相径庭，同样的电影在不同的人看来，对于其中的价值观的批判就有极大的不同。比如，《PASSION OF THE CHRIST〉，在无神论者看来，与在基督教徒看来就不同，在犹太人看来更有不同。

衡量思想性的标准在我看来是在于能不能挑战现有的主流观点，因此，任何带有反主流社会性质的电影在我看来是比较好的。这样看来，《出租车司机》的故事就特别的有趣，一个退伍兵，开夜车的，有着“Resecure Fantasy(救世情结)",现做个“人物”，炼枪，先是想要刺杀某政客，未遂；后来终于自以为是的“拯救”了某个“雏妓”（据媒体报道），还成了一个不大不小的“英雄”。这样的故事在我看来是“反主流社会”的，是反映社会的“黑暗”的，故事情节颇有反讽，荒诞的味道。在我看来，就是很有“想头”的电影了。

说的太多了，下回聊。

作者: wormcc

I agree, so in my point of view, "a beautiful mind" is a good movie because it's touching.


I just be curious... what makes it good. Maybe I missed something? As to your question, I have to admit although I enjoy watching De Nero's acting, I don't enjoy the "taxi driver". IMHO, Martin was so bounded in "gangs" movies with violence and depress, which I don't appreciate -- I haven't watched Aviator yet, hope it can change my impression.

[wormcc]

Thanks for sharing, Newman. It looks that the feeling to a movie is quite personal. You feel "taxi driver" is a 很有“想头”的电影, while I only see unbearable depression. Anyhow, nice to have a little discussion here.

[newman]

what do you mean by saying "unbearable depression" ? is there any other movie that make you feel depressed?

作者: wormcc

Thanks for sharing, Newman. It looks that the feeling to a movie is quite personal. You feel "taxi driver" is a 很有“想头”的电影, while I only see unbearable depression. Anyhow, nice to have a little discussion here.

[wormcc]

Ehhh, Deer hunter is another one. Maybe I shall delete the "unbearable", it's too strong. But I'm not comfortable when watching a teenager flirting with an adult. Meanwhile, the tone of the whole movie also depresses me. I'm just weak, hehe

[木棉花暖]

作者: newman

《出租车司机》的故事就特别的有趣，一个退伍兵，开夜车的，有着“Resecure Fantasy(救世情结)",现做个“人物”，炼枪，先是想要刺杀某政客，未遂；后来终于自以为是的“拯救”了某个“雏妓”（据媒体报道），还成了一个不大不小的“英雄”。这样的故事在我看来是“反主流社会”的，是反映社会的“黑暗”的，故事情节颇有反讽，荒诞的味道。在我看来，就是很有“想头”的电影了。

说的太多了，下回聊。

是说的太多了。不过你说的那句我很是同意，“。。。。。。不怪你，许多看不懂电影的人在写影评呢。”

[newman]

作者: wormcc

Ehhh, Deer hunter is another one. Maybe I shall delete the "unbearable", it's too strong. But I'm not comfortable when watching a teenager flirting with an adult. Meanwhile, the tone of the whole movie also depresses me. I'm just weak, hehe

Acutally I feel weak or sometimes depressed when I watch some good movies, however, it has never occurred to me that therefore these movies are not good. On the contrary, when a movie gives me some kind of feeling of burden, or stikes me, it usually is a good movie.

[wormcc]

Like I said, feeling to a movie is personal and I don't mean any depressing movie isn't good. For example, although deer hunter is quite depressing, I don't think it's bad. The taxi driver is just not my taste.

作者: newman

Acutally I feel weak or sometimes depressed when I watch some good movies, however, it has never occurred to me that therefore these movies are not good. On the contrary, when a movie gives me some kind of feeling of burden, or stikes me, it usually is a good movie.

[newman]

to some extent I agree with you. people definitely have different taste or preferrence when they watch a movie.

Having said that, individual preference should not interfere with our own judgement about "good" or "bad " movie. That is what I believe.