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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:42   只看该作者   #21
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难不成工程公司的人工也将了50%?
这是胡扯。人工能平均低20%就不错了。

关于材料,按照静止2009的平均价格,材料费和各种设备差不多30-40%,但是一旦一些项目再次启动,市场价格倒时候也会变化,根本不会达到Shell说的50%。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:46   只看该作者   #22
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你说说平均的rate是多少?我的rate不在工程界都130元,这还是很一般的工程师。

你们的charge再低能低过我们行业?
你说的RATE是指你们公司收油公司(或客户)的RATE,还是你们公司付给你本人的RATE?130$/HR给本人不低了。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:48   只看该作者   #23
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:49   只看该作者   #24
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你说的RATE是指你们公司收油公司(或客户)的RATE,还是你们公司付给你本人的RATE?130$/HR给本人不低了。
charge rate 〉pay = income
一般而言,staff工资是rate的30到40%
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:55   只看该作者   #25
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你说说平均的rate是多少?我的rate不在工程界都130元,这还是很一般的工程师。

你们的charge再低能低过我们行业?
如果说的是真话,你就偷着乐去吧。项目上作成本控制的对每个的工资一清二楚。过100有时有,但就那一两个。很多部分经理都不过百。

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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 16:56   只看该作者   #26
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charge rate 〉pay = income
一般而言,staff工资是rate的30到40%
Sounds right.
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:00   只看该作者   #27
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:04   只看该作者   #28
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charge rate 〉pay = income
一般而言,staff工资是rate的30到40%
跟RATE关系不大,主要是MANHOUR控制的紧了,没班可加了。项目没超支就算是成本减少了。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:06   只看该作者   #29
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这是胡扯。人工能平均低20%就不错了。

关于材料,按照静止2009的平均价格,材料费和各种设备差不多30-40%,但是一旦一些项目再次启动,市场价格倒时候也会变化,根本不会达到Shell说的50%。
你对工程成本,没有全面的理解。工程设计的成本不超过2%,换句话说说工程成本高不在于epc的工资。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:08   只看该作者   #30
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你说说平均的rate是多少?我的rate不在工程界都130元,这还是很一般的工程师。

你们的charge再低能低过我们行业?
你老大牛!
估计是做项目控制的同胞
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:08   只看该作者   #31
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你对工程成本,没有全面的理解。工程设计的成本不超过2%,换句话说说工程成本高不在于epc的工资。
你老说的这是正章。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:09   只看该作者   #32
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如果说的是真话,你就偷着乐去吧。项目上作成本控制的对每个的工资一清二楚。过100有时有,但就那一两个。很多部分经理都不过百。
你说的是工资吧,你们对客户收那马少?
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:09   只看该作者   #33
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如果说的是真话,你就偷着乐去吧。项目上作成本控制的对每个的工资一清二楚。过100有时有,但就那一两个。很多部分经理都不过百。
他老说的是charge给业主的rate,那里面包括了:工资和FEE.
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:23   只看该作者   #34
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他老说的是charge给业主的rate,那里面包括了:工资和FEE.
我知道那是工资乘系数之后是工程设计款,但比起投资来还是小数。业主在施工,工期和设备上省一点钱就够了,主要看投资回报率,业主要抓主要矛盾,这也是epc工资上涨快的内因。
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你说的是工资吧,你们对客户收那马少?
你要搞阶级斗争?
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 17:42   只看该作者   #36
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AMEC hires 3~4 times of normal required man power to do the Kearl yet still in low productivity. The result of this is the hour burnt out quickly and ...
你老是AMEC的CEO,还是帝国石油的CEO,这么秘密的消息从那儿听来的?
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 18:48   只看该作者   #37
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如果说的是真话,你就偷着乐去吧。项目上作成本控制的对每个的工资一清二楚。过100有时有,但就那一两个。很多部分经理都不过百。
小石油服务的经理/chief inspector级别也就是115左右,他应该是专家级别的
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 19:02   只看该作者   #38
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小石油服务的经理/chief inspector级别也就是115左右,他应该是专家级别的
我挺糊涂的。你们谈的是收取客户的费用,还是工资?我说的130是我们的公司收取客户的费用。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 19:33   只看该作者   #39
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我挺糊涂的。你们谈的是收取客户的费用,还是工资?我说的130是我们的公司收取客户的费用。
估计他们都当成你拿到手的数了
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 19:35   只看该作者   #40
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估计他们都当成你拿到手的数了
没拿到手的白说,我也以为是拿到手的说。
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