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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 19:45   只看该作者   #41
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卡城工程公司目前最大的问题是成本太高,说白了就是工资太高,$200/hour的rate,在经济不好的时候,人家当然会考虑报价低的其他公司。
$200/hour?这也太夸张了。这个价业主可以雇到加拿大资历最高的专家。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 20:19   只看该作者   #42
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这是胡扯。人工能平均低20%就不错了。

关于材料,按照静止2009的平均价格,材料费和各种设备差不多30-40%,但是一旦一些项目再次启动,市场价格倒时候也会变化,根本不会达到Shell说的50%。
项目投资中,许多东西都大掉价:
1.利息(财务费用),这是投资中的一个大头,P现在是2.25%,估计现在工业贷款利率要比以前低的以倍计算,就是说财务费用下降额度也以倍计.
2.材料费用应该是30-60%;
3.买地等费用,比当初高峰要低70%左右吧;
4....

其实投资决策在这降价波动中,也是困难的,也是种投机的行为.
坐底是个过程,说回升是没基础的,要是反弹的话,估计投资家更会看紧腰包.
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 20:19   只看该作者   #43
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$200/hour?这也太夸张了。这个价业主可以雇到加拿大资历最高的专家。
没有项目什么专家都是百扯...
黑猫白猫抓到项目就是好猫

一颗不安分的心................
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 20:51   只看该作者   #44
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我挺糊涂的。你们谈的是收取客户的费用,还是工资?我说的130是我们的公司收取客户的费用。
公司收取客户的费用,不含其它费用
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 20:59   只看该作者   #45
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$200/hour?这也太夸张了。这个价业主可以雇到加拿大资历最高的专家。
200/h是客户付给公司的价钱,如果一个员工的rate是200,公司发到他手大概是50-60块的样子。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 21:28   只看该作者   #46
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我挺糊涂的。你们谈的是收取客户的费用,还是工资?我说的130是我们的公司收取客户的费用。
是你当初没说明白,让后面羡慕一片
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 21:41   只看该作者   #47
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是你当初没说明白,让后面羡慕一片
英语烂的一片。

rate的行业意思不是工资。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 21:53   只看该作者   #48
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200/h是客户付给公司的价钱,如果一个员工的rate是200,公司发到他手大概是50-60块的样子。
应该在80-90左右
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 21:57   只看该作者   #49
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英语烂的一片。

rate的行业意思不是工资。
瞎他妈的讨论,没项目,工程公司到那要钱去呀?没项目,工程公司就继续裁,
你他妈的到哪找50-60$/hour的工作呀??
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 22:21   只看该作者   #50
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英语烂的一片。

rate的行业意思不是工资。
really? r u sure?
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 22:26   只看该作者   #51
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really? r u sure?
人家不是咱工程公司的一类.
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 22:42   只看该作者   #52
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really? r u sure?
你明天问问你的洋人同事吧。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 22:47   只看该作者   #53
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你明天问问你的洋人同事吧。
不用问,以前agent给我找工作前,问过我希望的rate是多少,我可以负责任的说,我给他的数是我想要的小时工资,不是哪个甲方被charge 的人工成本。
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卡城工程师的年薪有多少大概?如果说平均在15万到18万之间的话那真的令人吃惊。这是按照楼上时薪80-90估算的。
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不用问,以前agent给我找工作前,问过我希望的rate是多少,我可以负责任的说,我给他的数是我想要的小时工资,不是哪个甲方被charge 的人工成本。
你是个sub吧?

当做proposal时,当大家讨论问题问到,what's your rate?
都是指公司rate,你个人的叫做pay。比如别人问,how much you get paid?

具体到你的agent和你谈rate,是因为你自雇的吧?别混淆了两个概念。
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charge rate 〉pay = income
一般而言,staff工资是rate的30到40%
你说的靠谱

我公司是
Designer rate $ 110 现在的salary 是8万 -10%
engineer rate $ 150
Project manage rate $ 160
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你是个sub吧?

当做proposal时,当大家讨论问题问到,what's your rate?
都是指公司rate,你个人的叫做pay。比如别人问,how much you get paid?

具体到你的agent和你谈rate,是因为你自雇的吧?别混淆了两个概念。
rate, 有context的,不是你说的只表示公司向甲方取费的hourly rate。
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你说的靠谱

我公司是
Designer rate $ 110 现在的salary 是8万 -10%
engineer rate $ 150
Project manage rate $ 160
这些都是些常识,同胞都是关起门来搞设计,和周围交流很少。我没听说谁的个人收入超过公司rate的40%,因为公司还有将近10%付给staff的福利联邦收取的额外的钱等等,再加上down time,培训,开会等公司能纯赚40%不错了。

一个人公司rate是200元,超过80是胡扯,除非是sub,sub能拿到100也很正常(当人公司还向有老板收100元的overhead),这里讨论的很多不清楚。
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 23:28   只看该作者   #59
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rate, 有context的,不是你说的只表示公司向甲方取费的hourly rate。
你还是多注意英文单词的细微不同吧。

你以为agent真得明白 rate的含义?我问你,sea can在工程中什马意思?
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旧 Nov 29th, 2009, 23:32   只看该作者   #60
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你还是多注意英文单词的细微不同吧。

你以为agent真得明白 rate的含义?我问你,sea can在工程中什马意思?
你看看你工资条,上面有没有个单词叫rate。

我不想扯了,没意思,做市政设计的跟epcm公司两个打法。你很牛,大家都知道了,一小时130, period
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