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旧 Jul 19th, 2010, 21:41     #1
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默认 【求助】95 dodge van 变速箱问题

95 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER 183K KM, 1000CAD刚买了半年,开了8000公里,几天前,在地下停车场开车听到很大的金属摩擦噪音,但在P ,N档没有这种噪音。今天车加速非常慢,还伴随类似发动机加速的轰鸣声。(但不是发动机发出的)一加油,就有这种声音。只能加到70公里。检查波箱油位正常,干净。有无可能是波箱的电器控制部分(如传感器,伐)出了问题,如果花1,2百刀再开个半年也值得了。
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95 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER 183K KM, 1000CAD刚买了半年,开了8000公里,几天前,在地下停车场开车听到很大的金属摩擦噪音,但在P ,N档没有这种噪音。今天车加速非常慢,还伴随类似发动机加速的轰鸣声。(但不是发动机发出的)一加油,就有这种声音。只能加到70公里。检查波箱油位...
你现在就去google输入:ls200608 caravan

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见过狠的,但没见过这么狠的。
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旧 Jul 19th, 2010, 21:53   只看该作者   #5
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见过狠的,但没见过这么狠的。
我不想让老款Caravan再害更多的人。
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旧 Jul 19th, 2010, 22:03   只看该作者   #6
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其实不用情绪化。 实事求是地看问题吧。 开车如履鞋, 冷暖自知:

先读读码再说, 有些简单的读码器不能读出变速箱的故障码, 可能的话花点钱让dealer检查一下。 目前你的车处于limp mode: http://www.grego.ca/limp.htm

估计是哪个传感器坏了: 典型的问题(症状类似)根源是
crankshaft position sensor, Output speed sensor, governor pressure sensor/solenoid,throttle position sensor。

这里最便宜的是Output speed sensor。 最贵的是governor pressure sensor/solenoid。

其实通过dipstick 看变速箱油不准, 一点点油看不出什么问题。我的车每次看都行, 但是卸下油盘还是油泥一堆, 整体黑乎乎的一大盆。
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其实不用情绪化。 实事求是地看问题吧。 开车如履鞋, 冷暖自知:

先读读码再说。 目前你的车处于limp mode: http://www.grego.ca/limp.htm

估计是哪个传感器坏了: 典型的问题(症状类似)根源是
crankshaft position sensor, Outpu...
支持大全,LZ的运气未必有那么好。

我的是96 Caravan,在16万的时候和上面描述的现象很相似,后来送到专修变速箱的国人技师那检查,结果发现不是传感器问题,就是机械部件损坏,他把换下来的零件给我看了,后来re-build变速箱,到现在开了4年多,6万多公里,从这件事开始我和这个技师也成了朋友。

再加一句,这个年代的Caravan,在15万公里左右坏变速箱实在是太多了,这个问题可说是臭名昭著,世人皆知。
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95 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER 183K KM, 1000CAD刚买了半年,开了8000公里,几天前,在地下停车场开车听到很大的金属摩擦噪音,但在P ,N档没有这种噪音。今天车加速非常慢,还伴随类似发动机加速的轰鸣声。(但不是发动机发出的)一加油,就有这种声音。只能加到70公里。检查波箱油位...
你的车是PLYMOUTH的,怎么也算到DODGE头上啊?他们是一个公司的?

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你的车是PLYMOUTH的,怎么也算到DODGE头上啊?他们是一个公司的?
当然是一个公司的,Plymouth Voyager就是Dodge Caravan!他们不是兄弟姐妹的关系,而是自己与自己的关系。
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关于老款Caravan/Voyager的reviews

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/dod...ments/page-16/
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克莱斯勒的4速变速器设计缺陷到底是怎么回事?

请从7分06秒开始看讲解:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv69lyTVkq4

密封clutch plates的橡胶圈用料设计很差,容易老化,以至于在clutch packs尚未完全磨损之前D-ring seals就提前失效,变速器由于内部密封不严而造成液压严重降低,轻则slip,重则total failure。更换D-ring必须完全打开变速器。

"There is a big O-ring that seals the pump to the transmission case. This O-ring gets hard from old age, heat cycles, whatever. Then as the fluid leaks through it, the the spinning torque converter will sling the fluid up and through the crankshaft position sensor. This is where the fluid laying on top of the tranny case comes from.

Thats as long as the differential spider pin isn't eating away at the case. You then should have a very large leak from the pump area. Not just some drips.

The pump needs to come off for a complete seal job and new bushing also."
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昨天,只开了十几分钟回家转弯时动机突然熄火了,仪表盘上只有机油灯亮着我以为漏机油检查机油没有问题因为前天才换机油。这是我从新发动车,又可以了。
请坛子里的大侠这点迷津,非常感谢!!!!!!!!!!!
我真怀疑这个车没有得到适当保养,电路小问题发展成大毛病。

发动突然熄火, 很可能就是哪个sensor 坏了。比方 CPS坏了就是这个症状。
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