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旧 Mar 5th, 2008, 15:52     #1
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默认 你认为彭璇有罪吗?

为什么陪审员会全部认定彭璇有罪?
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旧 Mar 5th, 2008, 16:30   只看该作者   #2
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为什么陪审员会全部认定彭璇有罪?
什么事情?
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旧 Mar 5th, 2008, 19:11   只看该作者   #3
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为什么陪审员会全部认定彭璇有罪?
当然有罪.
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旧 Mar 5th, 2008, 19:21   只看该作者   #4
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旧 Mar 5th, 2008, 20:09   只看该作者   #5
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有罪
是不是量刑过重了? 判个过失杀人可能更公正些。

据说陪审团没有华人,他们很可能会想当然的把中国重男轻女,不尊重生命等社会问题的联想带到这个这个具体的个案当中。
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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 16:09   只看该作者   #6
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为什么陪审员会全部认定彭璇有罪?
如果孩子真是她搞死的,她一定有罪。但是,是否官方判罪这要看在那里,在中国也许不判罪,因为没有人管这类事,中国是私不举官不纠。
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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 16:10   只看该作者   #7
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是不是量刑过重了? 判个过失杀人可能更公正些。

据说陪审团没有华人,他们很可能会想当然的把中国重男轻女,不尊重生命等社会问题的联想带到这个这个具体的个案当中。
她不是有忧郁证吗.判的不是过失杀人呀?我以为是呢
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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 16:31   只看该作者   #8
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不知道她是否认了, 感觉是她有意杀的. 应该判有罪.
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量刑过重,坚持上诉有可能改判。

奇怪怎么没重新评估她的病症就下判决书了,怎么想都是面对着一个家庭的大事。

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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 17:45   只看该作者   #10
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没看出来有任何证据。除非她自己承认了.
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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 18:36   只看该作者   #11
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她不是有忧郁证吗.判的不是过失杀人呀?我以为是呢
二级谋杀。她的mental illness被judge任定unduly prejudicial

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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 18:40   只看该作者   #12
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没看出来有任何证据。除非她自己承认了.
没有人证物证,也没有直接证据证明她hold down女儿在浴缸里,奇怪控方是怎么convince陪审团认定她有罪的。要么就是她的辩护律师太差。
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旧 Mar 6th, 2008, 18:42   只看该作者   #13
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据说陪审团没有华人,他们很可能会想当然的把中国重男轻女,不尊重生命等社会问题的联想带到这个这个具体的个案当中。
如果不是故意的,那就纯粹是个意外,连过失杀人都算不上,所以要么谋杀,要么无罪
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没有人证物证,也没有直接证据证明她hold down女儿在浴缸里,奇怪控方是怎么convince陪审团认定她有罪的。要么就是她的辩护律师太差。
好像半截辩护律师跑了.
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如果不是故意的,那就纯粹是个意外,连过失杀人都算不上,所以要么谋杀,要么无罪
看电视八,北美很多刑事案最后都是控方和检方在法官的房间里make a deal,当然啦,make了deal估计就不能上诉了。像她这种案子,辩护律师辩护不力阿,不但罪名没有减下来,还搞了个终生监禁,够惨的。
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看电视八,北美很多刑事案最后都是控方和检方在法官的房间里make a deal,当然啦,make了deal估计就不能上诉了。像她这种案子,辩护律师辩护不力阿,不但罪名没有减下来,还搞了个终生监禁,够惨的。
原来要起诉一级谋杀的,估计deal就是二级谋杀吧。

至于她惨不惨就不好说了,不知道警察有啥证据,不过我倾向于是她杀的
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原来要起诉一级谋杀的,估计deal就是二级谋杀吧。

至于她惨不惨就不好说了,不知道警察有啥证据,不过我倾向于是她杀的
那是以前八,现在是以二级谋杀起诉,就是因为控方没有足够证据指控她一级谋杀。问题是二级谋杀也没有足够证据阿,至少表面上看没有,要是控方搜集了足够证据可以证明她犯下二级谋杀罪,早指控了,用得到拖了4年?还有那里的court太忙了。
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好象有证据证明这个孩子没有大人帮忙是没有能力进入浴缸的, 而她妈说是孩子自己进去的. 事实虽然没有外人知道, 但是她妈自己最清楚, 律师退出估计也是知道事实的真相, 就是这个狠毒的妈杀的.
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好象有证据证明这个孩子没有大人帮忙是没有能力进入浴缸的, 而她妈说是孩子自己进去的. 事实虽然没有外人知道, 但是她妈自己最清楚, 律师退出估计也是知道事实的真相, 就是这个狠毒的妈杀的.
如果一个四岁的孩子可以从车后座爬到前座, 把熄了火的汽车换到neutral, 我估计浴缸是小意思. 这种理由都能当证据, 说明控方也真是没什么case.
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如果一个四岁的孩子可以从车后座爬到前座, 把熄了火的汽车换到neutral, 我估计浴缸是小意思. 这种理由都能当证据, 说明控方也真是没什么case.
是啊!大胖2岁半,自己能爬到浴缸里,没问题。4岁,绝对可以了。
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