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旧 May 13th, 2008, 12:41     #1
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默认 镜头和相机之我见

看到很多新手花不少钱在相机上,而在镜头上是能省则省,很不以为然。
我觉得6M的入门级DSLR和12M的高级DSLR在大部分环境下基本上可以出同质的片子(不考虑打印大海报的情况下);而两百块的镜头在99%的拍摄情况下没有办法和一千块的镜头比。
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目前相机最突出的问题是对焦精度。什么色彩,什么连拍,什么iso离开了对焦都是鸡肋。偏偏对焦没有一家厂(指日产,其他国家的产品还没有听到报道)有切实可行的办法解决对焦精度问题,就连顶级产品还传说有31%不能对准。个人人为主要是对焦原理先天不足,不可靠,所以再怎么增加对焦点数,提高精度,再攀比机器专业级别,只要手里的机器跑焦,如同废料一块。这个时候,200元的镜头和2000的没有区别。好比我的机器,太阳下对着测焦卡拍,99%都精确无比,可是实际使用缺总有百分之几十没在最精确的焦点上。这种情况谈全副、色彩、构图等等有多少意义。说实在,不少贴发来的图真没几个实焦在主题上的,虽然自称焦很实,真没看出比最便宜的5018锐到那去。
这是良心话,没有诋毁任何人。
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 13:36   只看该作者   #3
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对焦精度并不是DSLR才有的问题吧? 大不了手动好了,200元的和2000的还是有区别吧,还有变焦的和变焦的比才公平,是不?
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 13:49   只看该作者   #4
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目前相机最突出的问题是对焦精度。什么色彩,什么连拍,什么iso离开了对焦都是鸡肋。偏偏对焦没有一家厂(指日产,其他国家的产品还没有听到报道)有切实可行的办法解决对焦精度问题,就连顶级产品还传说有31%不能对准。个人人为主要是对焦原理先天不足,不可靠,所以再怎么增加对焦点数,提高精度,再攀比机器专业级...
那个对焦只有31%不准的机器已经是最好的了,换个其它牌子和型号的都只有更差
讲究着用吧,那种测试如果要手动对焦,估计几乎出不了片
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 14:07   只看该作者   #5
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镜头是一分钱一分货的,厂家的用料和设计也大不一样。就拿canon来说,许多规格都有两或多种价钱,如24mm。35mm,50mm,85mm,70-200mm等等,他们之间的区别虽然不一定能达到价格的差异,但是还是吸引了不少人愿意买贵的那种,就是看中里面多用了几片东西,和片子多一点毒性。
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 14:09   只看该作者   #6
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对于入门级用户,巨资镜头根本是不现实的,舍本求末啊
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 14:21   只看该作者   #7
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对于入门级用户,巨资镜头根本是不现实的,舍本求末啊
买中高档的DSLR配狗头才是舍本求末啊
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 14:35   只看该作者   #8
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买中高档的DSLR配狗头才是舍本求末啊...
同意。只要是稍稍想把数码单反玩的久一点的话,就尽量买好点的镜头,机身按照资金状况搭配。
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 14:38   只看该作者   #9
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用户的分类不应以程度,应该以使用相机的目的,对片子质量的要求高低,或者想要达到的程度。
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 20:13   只看该作者   #10
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用户的分类不应以程度,应该以使用相机的目的,对片子质量的要求高低,或者想要达到的程度。
没错,我并不是劝大家都上牛头,而建议大家资金分配上不要分在镜头上太少,举个例也就是说买400D+驴头/牛头,而不要买40D+狗头。
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旧 May 13th, 2008, 21:49   只看该作者   #11
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旧 May 14th, 2008, 00:12   只看该作者   #12
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没错,我并不是劝大家都上牛头,而建议大家资金分配上不要分在镜头上太少,举个例也就是说买400D+驴头/牛头,而不要买40D+狗头。
大侠能给新手举例说说那些是驴头,牛头和狗头吗?谢谢。
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没错,我并不是劝大家都上牛头,而建议大家资金分配上不要分在镜头上太少,举个例也就是说买400D+驴头/牛头,而不要买40D+狗头。
这么多头啊!有马头吗?

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这么多头啊!有马头吗?
你的发明哈

别人说这片片很"牛"的时候,你可以说这片片很"马"
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旧 May 14th, 2008, 11:33   只看该作者   #15
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发几张狗头拍的狗片

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再发几张狗头拍的花。

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旧 May 14th, 2008, 11:56   只看该作者   #17
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DNA的片子很好。
还是那句听了都起耳茧的老话,俺这里就不重复了
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旧 May 14th, 2008, 12:45   只看该作者   #18
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做人要厚道。千万别把自己手里的头和自己想进的头说成是天下第一头。如果连牛头和狗头的区别还需要争辩,最好的选择是那种镜头,胶卷和像机一体化的那种设备,一样可以拍出好片。
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旧 May 15th, 2008, 17:21   只看该作者   #19
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我的意见:
1。想好入哪个门
2。机身,钱少从中档入手,钱多直接全福,钱更少->攒钱
3。镜头,想好自己最常用哪个焦段,直接上此焦段牛头,钱少->攒钱

那些上了狗头的人,总是有心理想升级,把不足归为镜头问题,以后还是要上牛头,反而浪费金钱。直接上了牛头,就找不到借口了
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旧 May 15th, 2008, 20:03   只看该作者   #20
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大侠能给新手举例说说那些是驴头,牛头和狗头吗?谢谢。
我也有同样的问题..谢谢..
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