温故而知新:没锅的日子真难受，有无卫视烧友，交流一下(9)

edmontonoilers · Dec 5th, 2007, 19:02

新的MAP CALL FUNCTION MAP=>22
现在根治的方法就是把整个ROM102给SIM出来, 否则我们将在很长一段时间内被敌人牵着鼻子走.

edmontonoilers · Dec 11th, 2007, 02:03

FTA的CODERS发怒了,开始发誓要解决102的SIMULATION的问题了
BELL的CODER是有好几个FTA雇的CODER叛变去做的,所以现在双方都势均力敌

所以新的BIN可能要等好长时间,可能WEEKS可能是MONTHS,因为现在小打小闹解决不了问题,
所有人都开始转向DN了~~

edmontonoilers · Dec 11th, 2007, 14:59

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作者: tomgod

放心吧，换一次bin就代表着bell那里要买个新的map，因为新的map密码换多了就会被破解。
bell也没那么多闲钱干这个。
估计bell的终极策略就是整体换，视频压缩用新的.264技术，传输用类似8psk之类的自己的独有技术，这样FTA才歇菜。
现在这种只算是小打小闹。
在这个市场里，玩...

8psk已经有模块了,好的卫星机的专用模块市场上都有的卖
.264是不是传说中的MEPG-4? 呵呵
我还是相信一句话,道高一尺,魔高一丈,FTA一定会胜利的,呵呵

edmontonoilers · Dec 13th, 2007, 18:00

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作者: yahooboy

this version was not working at B any more, waiting 3.0.0.3 version coming out!

官方EMULATION 3.0.0.3在几分钟前官方放出，
BLACKOUT 终于结束了，等待卫星机的出现了。

edmontonoilers · Dec 17th, 2007, 01:30

B3V opens the Door from H3LL! Bev opened up a door today. that allows them to run any code they want, and they can change that code once a minute, every minute! This is gonna get really interesting very quickly. We'll soon see who has the juice to stay up. Only a full blown emulation of the card stands a chance. Since we already know that B3v is the testing grounds for dish, the future is definitely uncertain for the older FTA units. The units that just patch for each various ecm will fall by the wayside, or be relegated back to their original purpose, of pure FTA.

Nagra has had their security issues for quite sometime, but its looking alot more secure than ever before, almost like some NDS help was hired to help out with the dynamics. The combination of stuff they can throw at us now is endless.

Thats the bad news. The good news is coders are about 98% done with the full emu, right down to clock frequency counters and timers within the maprom. It seems the coders are just as determined to beat the endless possibilities of dynamic hashing, and some are just as brilliant as the very best NDS or Nagra engineers.

It has been far to easy to watch encrypted signals for free for a long time now. Just about any old fta unit would do the trick. This will not be the case in the very near future. People will have to finally retire those old Fortec Lifetimes and Pansat 2500's, and probably alot more. It's all gonna boil down to who has the best coders. We'll get to see who has the smartest coders, and the best support. The game is far from over, but it is about to change dramatically.
Many of you are watching B3v right now on a Viewsat with a previous bin. Why are these units up and others aren't?
Simple, it is an Emulation of the card, one that wasn't finished yet, but is working for the current B3v hash.

The_Dss_Guy

edmontonoilers · Dec 17th, 2007, 16:08

同志们我们已经很荣幸地现在时的加入了这场黑客和信号提供者的大战，恩，所以我们要认真观战。

edmontonoilers · Dec 17th, 2007, 16:24

道高一尺魔高一丈，

著名黑客MFONG在昨天就预测到BEV今天会有ECM

所以今天早晨在编写DN fiX 的时候一并编写了

并在今天ECM发布前2小时公布BETA，现在依旧WORK

edmontonoilers · Dec 22nd, 2007, 11:29

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作者: vert

NND, 看来VS不愿出钱，或者毫赌所有的FTA今天会DOWN

VS这次慢是要出的时FULL EMU抑或比较稳定的BIN,所以慢
其他厂家出的都是TEMP的,BELL稍微改小0907就不能看,所以
VS的BIN可以是众望所归,万众瞩目,不仅仅是FTA更是PROVIDER所关注的.

edmontonoilers · Dec 23rd, 2007, 18:32

你看得是BEV还是DISH

edmontonoilers · Dec 23rd, 2007, 18:52

我的VS9000不行,能把KEY的地址发过来么?

edmontonoilers · Dec 30th, 2007, 23:17

CW 是DVB的吧，也是CARDLESS的吗，现在的FIX很快就会被黑的，还是老老实实交月费吧

Dec 5th, 2007, 19:02	#1
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36	新的MAP CALL FUNCTION MAP=>22 现在根治的方法就是把整个ROM102给SIM出来, 否则我们将在很长一段时间内被敌人牵着鼻子走.
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Dec 11th, 2007, 02:03	#2
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	FTA的CODERS发怒了,开始发誓要解决102的SIMULATION的问题了 BELL的CODER是有好几个FTA雇的CODER叛变去做的,所以现在双方都势均力敌所以新的BIN可能要等好长时间,可能WEEKS可能是MONTHS,因为现在小打小闹解决不了问题, 所有人都开始转向DN了~~
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Dec 17th, 2007, 01:30	#5
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	一个黑客的头头写的，唉，这仗要打倒什么时候，可苦了我们这些老百姓了。 B3V opens the Door from H3LL! Bev opened up a door today. that allows them to run any code they want, and they can change that code once a minute, every minute! This is gonna get really interesting very quickly. We'll soon see who has the juice to stay up. Only a full blown emulation of the card stands a chance. Since we already know that B3v is the testing grounds for dish, the future is definitely uncertain for the older FTA units. The units that just patch for each various ecm will fall by the wayside, or be relegated back to their original purpose, of pure FTA. Nagra has had their security issues for quite sometime, but its looking alot more secure than ever before, almost like some NDS help was hired to help out with the dynamics. The combination of stuff they can throw at us now is endless. Thats the bad news. The good news is coders are about 98% done with the full emu, right down to clock frequency counters and timers within the maprom. It seems the coders are just as determined to beat the endless possibilities of dynamic hashing, and some are just as brilliant as the very best NDS or Nagra engineers. It has been far to easy to watch encrypted signals for free for a long time now. Just about any old fta unit would do the trick. This will not be the case in the very near future. People will have to finally retire those old Fortec Lifetimes and Pansat 2500's, and probably alot more. It's all gonna boil down to who has the best coders. We'll get to see who has the smartest coders, and the best support. The game is far from over, but it is about to change dramatically. Many of you are watching B3v right now on a Viewsat with a previous bin. Why are these units up and others aren't? Simple, it is an Emulation of the card, one that wasn't finished yet, but is working for the current B3v hash. The_Dss_Guy
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Dec 17th, 2007, 16:08	#6
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	同志们我们已经很荣幸地现在时的加入了这场黑客和信号提供者的大战，恩，所以我们要认真观战。
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Dec 23rd, 2007, 18:32	#9
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	你看得是BEV还是DISH
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Dec 23rd, 2007, 18:52	#10
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	我的VS9000不行,能把KEY的地址发过来么?
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Dec 30th, 2007, 23:17	#11
edmontonoilers Member 注册日期: Nov 2007 帖子: 36 声望: 0	CW 是DVB的吧，也是CARDLESS的吗，现在的FIX很快就会被黑的，还是老老实实交月费吧
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