温故而知新:没锅的日子真难受，交流一下(14)

[dk99]

作者: sunchem

用KBOX东森等台湾&香港的台昨天都能看了.

谢谢你的消息，已经在看了。

[AbsentROR]

作者: tony

请问这个 sonicview ihub 需要无流量限制的高速网吗？我现在的网速大概是 2 MB/s (Bell Sympatico)，但是有每月 20 GB的流量限制。我是这方面的菜鸟，去年 10 月才装了两个 sonicview 360 premier，楼上一个，楼下一个。现在一个中文台也看不到（...

Sonicview ihub is still rumor..no one knows yet

Kbox now opens all Chinese channels

[tony]

Thanks for your reply.

For those network hubs (whatever iHub or KBOX K-Hub), do I have to have unlimited internet volume from the service provider?

作者: AbsentROR

Sonicview ihub is still rumor..no one knows yet

Kbox now opens all Chinese channels

[AbsentROR]

作者: tony

Thanks for your reply.

For those network hubs (whatever iHub or KBOX K-Hub), do I have to have unlimited internet volume from the service provider?

IKS (ICS) or something else, for FTA box that have network module, does not need much internet bandwidth, it's not IPTV, it's not p2p TV, it's sharing subscription. You box need to connect to the card server regularly to get authenticated, it's very minimum impact on your network, about 4-5k...

Simply speaking, you only need a 24/7 available internet to watch TV, but it add barely nothing to your internet volumn, you can add more overhead to your network by browsing 'chinasmile' than to the Card server

---当然你的锅要对着你要看的卫星，这点很重要,怕有些同志买了box，没有对星，就开始问，怎么看不到^.^

[AbsentROR]

关于kbox，我用了2个月，基本稳定，昨天所有中文台都有了

几个还在测试种的安徽/重庆/深圳没有，其他的全部有了，想买的，等不及的可以考虑

自己做决定了，风险一定有，价格也不便宜，自己看着办了

[tony]

Are those chinese channels still on the Anik 118.7? Thanks...

作者: AbsentROR

关于kbox，我用了2个月，基本稳定，昨天所有中文台都有了

几个还在测试种的安徽/重庆/深圳没有，其他的全部有了，想买的，等不及的可以考虑

自己做决定了，风险一定有，价格也不便宜，自己看着办了

[AbsentROR]

作者: tony

Are those chinese channels still on the Anik 118.7? Thanks...

Yes

[Ellesmeer]

C/P

S.U.N.S

This is NOT a sub card share.

Yes they use "cards" and a "card server/ handler" but they do NOT use subbed cards.

as a wise man once said it is emulation at its finest. nFusion has always been ahead of the game and always will be.

just because you dont understand how they do it or what they are using to get the cw's back and forth in the data stream does not mean it is not possible to make it work.

lets remember what is priority here and its not any B3V or DN channel. Its the longevity of the nFusion line.

right now nFusion and any other stb capeable of using an ethernet post is going to be hit hard BUT look at what nfuision is doing?

you make the nfusion line a set of media streaming servers, or be able to access a true FTA ch guide, or an iptv or all of the above you ensure the stability of the platform beyond FTA. how can they bacn a piece of hardware that is essence is no different than a pc or xbox? they cant. the IPPVR EVEN if it worked 100% is still related to sat signal, They are putting in more options that are no sat related so it does not just look like there is a token piece of software just for looks.

nFusion is playing this one extremly well, if the providers are unable to prove the ethernet port is for the sole purpose of pirating TV then they will not have a leg to stand on.

[creativeccc]

作者: AbsentROR

关于kbox，我用了2个月，基本稳定，昨天所有中文台都有了

几个还在测试种的安徽/重庆/深圳没有，其他的全部有了，想买的，等不及的可以考虑

自己做决定了，风险一定有，价格也不便宜，自己看着办了

这边的新时代和城市电视都有么？KBOX现在大概卖多少$?

tHANKS

[AbsentROR]

作者: creativeccc

这边的新时代和城市电视都有么？KBOX现在大概卖多少$?

tHANKS

Kbox does not support BV

[AbsentROR]

作者: Ellesmeer

C/P

S.U.N.S

This is NOT a sub card share.

Yes they use "cards" and a "card server/ handler" but they do NOT use subbed cards.

as a wise ma...

It's for sure a sub card share, if it's not, PPV would be open already... Also why they shut down their server for almost a week, while their dealer was 'checked' in GTA...why run away like chicken... I hate Team Nfusion spread rumors, and make false statement... Evidence is there that they use Sub share, and they still try to hide the truth... ^.^

I have nfusion, it's card share from the day one....kbox same thing...Card Sharing or not, let end-user knows, then it's their decision to buy it or not...

[2211]

作者: AbsentROR

It's for sure a sub card share, if it's not, PPV would be open already... Also why they shut down their server for almost a week, while the...

KBOX K1 PLUS 现在能看吗？用升级bin 吗？我看到有1.84的bin

[oasis]

有点困惑

[Ellesmeer]

作者: oasis

有点困惑

这个估计是他们的商业机密。

[AbsentROR]

作者: 2211

KBOX K1 PLUS 现在能看吗？用升级bin 吗？我看到有1.84的bin

upgrade is harmless ^.^

[AbsentROR]

作者: Ellesmeer

这个估计是他们的商业机密。

不是商业机密，原来是open source来着，欧洲很早就有这个了...国内的viaaccess2*, id2都破解都是card sharing, 关于qbox/dreambox的card sharing plugin很多...

Nfusion/kbox都是基于那些做的extension或者改写了一下，没有什么机密，比n3的real hack容易多了...

大家读这个帖子就知道了，其实很简单...

主要是如果用户过多，一个card server就会出现freeze...现在kbox的ZeeTV就是印度人看板球的channel就freeze, 就是用户过多的原因，所以如果用的人多了,kbox会怎么样，鬼知道...

我还是以测试为目的，关于kbox还是老话，基本稳定，但是由于最近用户增加很快，所以server开始down了...

Card sharing is a method by which independent receivers obtain simultaneous access to a pay television network, using one legitimate conditional access subscription card.

Typically, the legitimate card is attached to a personal computer or Dreambox which is connected to the Internet, and is configured to provide the legitimately decrypted control word to other receivers who request the information.

This decrypted control word is then used to decode an encrypted conditional access service, as though each other receiver were using its own subscription card.

As technology has made the security of smartcards in conditional access systems increase, card sharing has become a more popular method of pirate decryption. Much of the development of card sharing hardware and software has taken place in Europe where national boundaries mean that home users are able to receive satellite television signals from many countries but are unable to legally subscribe to them due to licensing restrictions on broadcasters.

Because the length of the control word is so small (often 16 bytes), delivery of the control words over wide area networks to many different set top boxes is easily possible on a home internet connection.

This has sparked off the creation of sharing network groups, in which users can access the group by sharing their subscription cards with the group, and in turn, being capable of receiving the channels which all users' cards can decrypt, as though the user owned every single subscription card.

Other networks have also been created, whereby one server has multiple legitimate subscription cards connected to it. Access to this server is then restricted to those who pay the server's owner their own subscription fee.
Another use for card sharing has become apparent as Europe migrates from analog to digital TV. As the tv signal turns digital, a digital set top box is needed for each TV in the household. Each set top box normally needs to have its own smart card in order to be able to decrypt premium channels.

Most pay-tv providers (but not all) offer extra subscription cards to subscribers for a reduced fee compared to the original first card. The extra cards usually come with more restrictions than the first card, such as certain channels excluded from being decrypted by any card except the (more expensive) first one. This practice is mostly dictated by the content providers (tv networks) and poses a problem from a consumer rights perspective, as the subscribers are essentially forced to paying for the same channels twice, whereas in the analog world the channels would be unlocked on every TV in the household with only one fee.

In order to avoid paying for the same content twice, many subscribers use card sharing to share their single smartcard among all the receivers in their households, arguing that it is just fair use. This practice can in some cases mean a breach of the contract between the subscriber and the content provider.

It is however not an illegal activity, since the subscriber pays for the smartcard and the smartcard is only used within the subscriber's own household.

Card sharing has caused major concern to the conditional access subscription card manufacturers, and their respective pay-tv companies, since virtually every encryption system can be shared, allowing unauthorised access. Unlike the hacking of smart cards, card sharing is relatively new, thanks to the recent increase in home internet speeds.

Conditional access providers therefore have few counter measures to combat its use. One such method, used by several providers, is to greatly increase the frequency of changing the control word, used to decode the channel. With changing occurring as frequently as once every 5 seconds, this puts extra stress onto the subscription cards processor, meaning that clients are frustrated by short, but frequent, missed viewing, making viewing possible, but with extreme inconvenience. In response to this, card sharing servers have appeared that caches control words in order to prevent overloading of the smartcards processor if the same code word is requested more than once.

The future of card sharing is unknown, because it is equally unclear how widespread its use is. Many conditional access providers may see it unworthy to produce new cards to send to all subscribers, as their manufacturing costs are too high. Most probably also realize that and the additional "security" will eventually be circumvented anyway.

[tomgod]

谁知道D家的转N3到底转到哪里了？118都干掉了？110呢？还有多少个没转的，这如果还拖来拖去的我干脆把对118那口锅转向110得了。

[AbsentROR]

作者: tomgod

谁知道D家的转N3到底转到哪里了？118都干掉了？110呢？还有多少个没转的，这如果还拖来拖去的我干脆把对118那口锅转向110得了。

Why turn it? Just buy a holder for 4 buck and lnb for 15 buck and add 110 ^.^

http://transatelectronics.com/store/...-dual-lnb_P523
http://transatelectronics.com/store/...t-bracket_P234

[蔡鸟一个]

各位同好，很久没来，在此先向大家问声好！
本人一直用一个Panset 2500，后来不支持了。有这里的兄弟支招Convert成了2700 B-75 模式。着实叫俺高兴了一阵子，可后来B-75好像也找不着Bin 了。出来的新Bin都是Puff and Lzma 的。在网上找了找还是一头雾水。那位兄弟知道如何改2500 到 2700 的 Puff 或 Lzma 呀。在此先谢过了。

[tomgod]

作者: AbsentROR

Why turn it? Just buy a holder for 4 buck and lnb for 15 buck and add 110 ^.^

http://transatelectronics.com/store/...-dual-lnb_P523
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呵呵，我用的是口31寸的锅，本来对119就满困难的，现在再加几个，就更麻烦了，而且我的锅现在固定的位置不好---是在3楼往外伸的，根本没办法够到LNB。

110的只是暂时的，弄锅才1年多时间，漫漫来吧。