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旧 May 3rd, 2012, 16:48     #1
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Talking 欢迎讨论便利店价格,持续更新每一步信息,直到最后一步!!

第一次想做生意,第一次想看店,欢迎拍砖砸店、砸人,呵呵,使劲拍!

本人在Alberta, 在ICX上看到有便利店出售,今天电邮对方经纪,得到回复邮件如下:

Please find the attachment.
If you are interested in seeing financial information, please let me know.
Thank you。



GENERAL INFORMATION
1. ASKING: $199,000
2. SALE: $600,000 + Lotto Separate + ATM commission
3. MARGIN – The owner say 40%. (32% will be actual)
4. Cigarette Portion: 60%
5. SIZE: 2,000 sq ft
6. BUSINESS HOUR – Weekdays 7:00 AM – 9:00 PM (Summer 10:00PM), Sat & Sun 9:00AM – 9:00PM, Holiday 9:00AM – 6:00PM
7. LEASE: 5 years from Jan 2012.
8. RENT FEE: $1,800/MON.
9. EMPLOYEE: 1 (3 days/week * 8 hours * $10)
10. REBATE: HUSH 10%, LESLEY 10%
11. SLUSH MACHINE 4 outlet. This machine make slush very thin and this is made in USA and this is only one machine in this city.
12. This store is famous for slush and ice cream and people come from the other place.


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怎样?拍砖开始!!

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旧 May 3rd, 2012, 19:27     #2
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拍砖, no 砖!!!
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已经跟JJ要过去三年的financial statement, tax return, balance sheet!
还没有消息!

另外,10. REBATE: HUSH 10%, LESLEY 10% 这是啥咚咚??

看过大家的帖子!烟占60%,毛利因该不可能34%! 呵呵,20%??

等到看过报税情况,跟店一周!看看!

另外,跟店前是不是必须下Offer!?

拍砖!
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今天收到JJ的邮件回复!

I will send the financial information to you.
Please fill and sign the attached confidential agreement. Thank you,

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附件内容:


CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT

I, the undersigned, do hereby acknowledge receipt of confidential information on the property
described hereinafter.

PROPERTY DESCRIPTION _____________________________________________________

I, further acknowledge that CIR, a duly licensed Agent has an agency Agreement with the owner or a co-operative agreement with the listing Agent of the above described property.

The information will be kept confidential by the recipient and shall not, without prior written
Consent of CIR be disclosed by you, your agents, representatives or Employees, in any manner
whatsoever, in whole or in part, and shall not be used by you, your Agents, representative or
employees, other than in connection with the purchase of part or all of the subject business and/or property.

CIR believes that the confidential information to be provided is Accurate, however, expressly disclaims any and all liability for express or implied Representations or warranties for information contained in, or omissions from such confidential Information or any other written or oral communication transmitted or made available to the recipient.


I agree that such information will be held in strict confidence, that all matters concerning the
aforementioned property will be handled through CIR, that I will not approach or attempt to deal with the owners or employees either directly or indirectly.

THE UNDERSIGNED HEREBY CONFIRMS RECEIPT OF A COPY OF THIS AGREEMENT

NAME: ____________________________________________________________

ADDRESS: __________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________________

PHONE #:_____________________FAX #:_________________________________________

SIGNATURE: _____________________________DATE:_____________________________


FAX:
E-MAIL: _______________________________________________________________

大家解释啥意思?有不合理的吗?俺英语太差!!谢谢
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在卡城年销售60万的店若要价19.9.有点高。一般要价应该在14到十五万。因为,卡城和埃蒙顿便利店很难做,大超市太多和当地人不太愿意去小店买东西的习惯。去小店一般也就买包烟或彩票,这些利润都挺低的。我记得卡城南部queensland有家好像韩国人开的,说年60万《我没核实》要价12.5万而且还靠近学...
Thank you very much.

Where are you?

I am in lethbridge.

Hope to meet you.

I can't get input Chinese. Sorry!
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对不起大家,近几天较忙,没有更新消息。

这个店是韩国人的,周围500米没有竞争者,环境还可以,已经实地考察!

卖店原因:店主7年前做过心脏手术,身体不太好,已查证,给我看刀口了。

韩棒子确实倔,今天领教了,我电话约他看财政报表,他告诉我只能当面看,不能用笔记,不能拿走,更不能给会计看。呵呵,等我大致看一遍的时候,又告诉我只能看一遍。哇靠。牛人


2011年大致情况如下:

570,000 sales

131,000 gross profit

48,000 management fee

9,000 salary and benfit

25,000 net income before tax

另外,没看清2010年的,只记住510,000 sales

从他的blance sheet上可以看出五年前:60,000 equipments + 43,000 goodwill

他告诉我花了100,000多买的店

但店主告诉我随时可以查店,不用下offer,不用押金,我很惊讶,立刻告知下周查店,每天早7:00到晚10:00。

临走时,免费大杯冰淇凌,自我感觉不好意思,我买了一盒冰淇凌给孩子8.99$.

参照以上信息,大家看看,评估一下,值多少银子!


另外跟店时注意啥,各位大佬给提个醒,先谢过大家了。

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另外,店主决定不用中介了,是好事还是坏事?(店主告知中介费8%,然后偶问之能否不要中介,答可以。)
这种情况,买家应该注意什么??
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不要中介亏的一定是你 买家永远没有卖家精 而且中介费又不用你出 如果我是买家我一定要中介 很多事是你想不到的
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现在我也不想找中介了,如果跟店结果可以的话,给他Offer,然后直接找律师办理后续事情,是不是可以呀?难道我一定要找中介吗??

现在是不是这样的,他要价199,000,没有中介了,是不是相当于要价185000??

是不是我应该照此价格划价!

关键大侠们给估算一下价格!!

挣钱不容易,读过您的很多回复,很是受用!谢谢!!

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若净利润是130000元,包含你的人工钱,可以考虑。若再减去以下几项,你就和这个店说拜拜吧。
若再减去以下几项???



可以考虑??how much???

Thank you very much!

I am really need help.
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若净利润是130000元,包含你的人工钱,可以考虑。若再减去以下几项,你就和这个店说拜拜吧。
若再减去以下几项???



可以考虑??how much???

Thank you very much!
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我回来了!

先报告店主的tax return情况:

2010年:

total sales:510,000

具体支出、收入没让看(因为没下offer)

2011年:

total sales:570,000
gross profits:131,000
net income(include employee' salary):
48,000 management fee(for owner)
9,000 salary and benefit(for employee)
25,000 net income for company
total net income:82,000


现在报告跟店情况,恳求大虾门、各位老板们意见:

因为没下offer,只跟店两天,结果如下:

周一:

杂货、香烟:2,120.76
香烟:1,056.8 比率:50%

周二:

杂货、香烟:2,070.76
香烟:839 比率:40%

电话卡、报纸未统计。
此店销售彩票不太多,佣金也较低(阿省),一年大约几千,ATM佣金也不太多!

店主自称香烟比例大约60%,

跪求大家帮忙,下个offer!
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Really need help!

大力丸子等各位大佬们,都到哪里去了?生意太好了,数钱数的太累了。

呵呵,有时间多多传授经验!

祝各位大佬生意兴隆!


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烟的利润是百分之十五,其他的货物利润按四十计算。彩票按百分之五计算,ATM按每笔五毛钱计算,一般每年也就是3000元收益。减去各种支出《可以不考虑自己的工资》,先按两年回本的预算,去报价吧。每次加价一千,一千加价,我感觉这个店一般,不要高价拿下。

看看俺们算得对否:

2000/month*5*30*23%=69000 (summer day)

(2000*2/3)/month*7*30*23%=64400 (winter day)

total gross profit:69000+64400=133400

net income:133400-12*1800(rent)-10000(hydro)-15000(misc)=86800$

offer:2*86800=170000

help me out!!

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Offer 150000

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Seller ask 180,000$, any idea?
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店里的Ice cream 机器坏了,店主卖了个新的20,000$,价格现在200,000$,店主不想降价,大家有啥想法?

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都这般地喜欢此店,再想想下个星期就可以天天数钱数到手软,就从了吧。
这个店倒还可以,但是价格一直搞不定,第一次做生意,真的没有主意,韩棒子也真倔,机器坏了,是换了新机器,又不是添加个新机器,晕死!

从了?晕死,第一次买店,还没讲价,靠,有点傻!

谢过大虾,风叶之城
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