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旧 Sep 24th, 2011, 14:40     #1
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默认 发烧友的elitism。

syggz介绍了这个群,本来想去凑个热闹,可看了这条群规,就没兴趣了,elitism倾向太严重!

Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern。

3) Members must have an audio system with a min. value of 10k

Audiophile Club of Toronto

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/A-C-T/

The Audiophile Club of Toronto is a GTA area private audiophile club. We are proud to be the most active audiophile group in town.

If you are interested in the ACT, please note that we are not just an online forum but an active group with 24 meetings per yr. Those considering membership must be prepared to host events at your home.

The Membership process begins with an invitation to one of our events, plus an initial visit by existing members. Formal membership is granted by general consensus of the existing members after 60 days of application to ensure active participation, and background safety check.

(Aug 2011 membership candidates: Boban Nikolic 2011 Newest Member: John Solecki)

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1) New members requires an initial visit by 10 members of the group
2) Personal info must be posted on the database
3) Members must have an audio system with a min. value of 10k
4) Guest non-members are welcomed to attend but permission must be obtained from the host
5) The host will specify the number of attendees permitted per hosting
6) Separate casual meetings between members are frequent, but are considered separate from formal hosting.
7) Members must commit to hosting at least once per rotation cycle
8) Personal information must remain confidential
9) Group additions and changes to policy are done by a general consensus model
10) System bashing is prohibited, violation will result in cancellation of membership
11) New members must send an email to ACT to acknowledge that he has read and agree to all rules and regulations of the group
12) The group must not be used as a venue for product promotion or marketing sales
13) Hosting dates must be confirmed within 1 month ahead of time
14) Missed hosting must be rescheduled asap or membership will be cancelled
15) Racism is prohibited
16) New members must host within 1 mth of joining
17) New members are accepted with a min. of NET 10 vote of admission at the end of 2 mths

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旧 Sep 24th, 2011, 15:05   只看该作者   #2
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syggz介绍了这个群,本来想去凑个热闹,可看了这条群规,就没兴趣了,elitism倾向太严重!

也没见到那24 个 Member 的发的 帖子,不知真烧的有几个?

确实,买套设备很容易,做真烧友难;我知道的我的国内成功人士朋友,多少都有一套发烧设备,却不是发烧人士, 而很多烧友,是DIY 烧友,所以这个Group 有是“显摆Group”嫌疑。

独乐乐,不若与众乐乐!
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旧 Sep 24th, 2011, 15:14   只看该作者   #3
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也没见到那24 个 Member 的发的 帖子,不知真烧的有几个?

确实,买套设备很容易,做真烧友难;我知道的我的国内成功人士朋友,多少都有一套发烧设备,却不是发烧人士, 而很多烧友,是DIY 烧友,所以这个Group 有是“显摆Group”嫌疑。
你不加入是看不到里面的帖子的。

不见得就全是显摆,是有很多真烧的,这里的应该就是24个member的系统了。
http://www.stereopal.com/Home_Visit.htm

我只是觉得定个价钱当加入的条件很不合适的,
如果一个DIY的高手,花了不到一万,出来的声音绝对超过外面卖一万的系统,
(想起nattwa的土炮功放了)
你们就看都不看,听都不听,直接把人家拒之门外?
我只能说这帮人还是心态有点问题。
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旧 Sep 24th, 2011, 16:33   只看该作者   #4
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你不加入是看不到里面的帖子的。

不见得就全是显摆,是有很多真烧的,这里的应该就是24个member的系统了。
http://www.stereopal.com/Home_Visit.htm

我只是觉得定个价钱当加入的条件很不合适的,
倒不怀疑有很多烧友在里面。只是不喜欢诸如自称‘中国发烧第一人”之类的人。

我一向觉得DIY烧友的水平,会超过只买设备的而不会动手的烧友。

所以可以称为中国发烧第一人, 绝不是十八子之类的,应该会在DIY自制发展成现在的专业厂家的创业者中,比如。。。,

美国有很多音响设备家庭工厂,我也很佩服这些创办人,烧出了水平。

这个的一万准入证,自然就偏离了我对【发烧友】这词的理解。

我很好奇的是,有多少是批评贴或者建议贴,则可以此判断这个Group 是显摆还是真发烧,如果真是前者的话,那就是会充斥着马屁贴,那就很无聊了。

只是借个发烧为名,真聚会为真了。就不能以发烧的心态去,以“独乐乐,不若与众乐乐!”心态就对了。

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syggz介绍了这个群,本来想去凑个热闹,可看了这条群规,就没兴趣了,elitism倾向太严重!
Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of peopl...
你读条规比我还仔细!我只是随便扫了一下照片及系统介绍,从没想过要加入。
但就算你要加入,有条>$10k的条规,你的玩具老早就过$10k啦!
我的音响玩具没过$10k,但也不代表我没机会听,看其他人的音响玩具。我认识的几个甚至还是专业的musician,在交响乐团混吃的,其中一个还是DIY高手,尤其在tube方面的。
我的摄影设备过$10k,但我一个club都没有。

Club 不 club,不是重点。交朋友很容易,因为大家都有一样的爱好,课题。不用死硬套上club这个名誉。

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我也给我同事看了这个home visit网站。他说这种发烧行为是跟老婆离婚前干的最后一件事。
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我也给我同事看了这个home visit网站。他说这种发烧行为是跟老婆离婚前干的最后一件事。
真是这样的咧。
看看这条: New members requires an initial visit by 10 members of the group
就这条我LP一定会抱怨,
一天来10个肯定受不了,
分成几天来更受不了。

再看看这条:
16)New members must host within 1 mth of joining
17) New members are accepted with a min. of NET 10 vote of admission at the end of 2 mths
感觉就是一个月内先面试,2个月内需要得到10个member的批准才能正式成为会员。
come on...
这发烧不就是个玩,
主要目的还是音乐,
他们这个组织感觉太serious了,
not my cup of tea..
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你们 几位都挨边了。我的设备就是乘上10倍都不达标啦。
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你们 几位都挨边了。我的设备就是乘上10倍都不达标啦。
lighting说了,你这种动手派才是真正达标的发烧友
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lighting说了,你这种动手派才是真正达标的发烧友
他那些人是炫富。
我的设备还没有一件接近$1K.
但是捡的东东才好玩。怎么磨都行。
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他那些人是炫富。
我的设备还没有一件接近$1K.
但是捡的东东才好玩。怎么磨都行。
要允许人家悬浮嘛,
有钱有有钱的玩法,没钱有没钱的玩法,
人家花那么多钱,
悬浮一下,
可以理解的。
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