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旧 Feb 10th, 2010, 19:25     #1
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小慧老师基本上都说到了,总结起来还是肩和胯的问题,没有松开。如果把肩和胯的问题展开来说,就是太极拳十要里的基本要领。这些要领,你肯定都明白,但要做到身体也明白,就要找个懂的人帮你一点一点的纠正。
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肩和胯的问题,是每个习练者必过的坎,我也是一步一步艰难的走,到现在有时还是会不知不觉地冒出来。

头脑明白容易,身体明白就难多了。练拳就是要不断的否定自己,经常我们有这样的感觉,练拳有了一段时间后,自己也感觉不错了,就拍了视频,结果还是发现许多问题;然后,就针对这些问题进行纠正,过了一段时间了,感觉又不错了,再拍又发现问题,然后再改。练拳就是这样,在否定中前进的。
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说具体点,肩不松的原因,是肩上的意太重。白鹤亮翅时有抬肩,搂膝拗步时有伸肩。
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我见过练通臂拳和宗鹤拳的,肩动的都很厉害,但也都很松。也许,不同师门要求不同。我说的,权当参考。
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我就是小慧老师一砖一砖地砸出来的。我每过半年或一年,都会拍一次,除了自己看,还拿出来大家看,希望在砖头下成长。

像小慧这样的好心人,真的不多见,我非常的敬佩。有机会,一定当面致谢。
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关节改造得差不多了也就基本入门了,之后的路就好走了,所以我是很坚定的关注基本功。我相信现在你的进步是非常巨大的,我看好你;)。
也感谢你的信任,那是第一次远程教学,根据你的问题把我的思路整合付诸文字,对你有帮助对我也是很好的总结。
现在咱俩合作的这个关节放松的帖子真的造福了很多人。看到很多人因此...
基本功是非常的重要,太极拳的秘籍也就是在这简简单单的基本要领里面。回头看看自己走过的路,无一不是对基本要领逐步深入理解和体悟的过程。
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旧 Feb 11th, 2010, 19:53     #7
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不是说你自有明师么?单靠网上“砸砖”之言练太极拳,求健身没问题,要求悟劲懂劲就难了。

“小慧现象”对普及太极有贡献,但对造成太极拳花拳绣腿、只能活络筋骨……之负面看法,确有莫大关系。

我在此强调这是一种比较普遍的现象,就是希望不要把这个话题太个人化。体用脱节,不把练习太极拳架之“体”,跟对抗性的推手之“用”紧密结合起来的夸夸其谈,甚至故弄玄虚搞神秘化,以前我在国内时也经常碰到过。每当我一些年少气盛师兄弟要给这类听众甚多“高手”以难堪时,总被师傅呵止。只要用意良善,不是谋财害命,理当宽容待之。

如果现状跟我相似,跟原有师傅联系不上,多向太极猫请教学习,会更有益处。我虽然没会过Garry,但会过他老师,也跟与他摸过手的弟兄们相熟,再按他在此论坛发言分析判断,当你的引路人是有资格的。

不要看着三代、kevin等很起劲地投“赞成票”,其实真要追问他们到底是在赞成啥、反对啥,压根就是说不清楚地。你信不信?不信可以耐心等候他们细说……..
你把视频放上来,不就是求砖吗?难道还是求赞美?三人行必有我师,每个人都有长处和短处,尽管不是高手,却也能指出不对的地方。我们都是练拳的,当别人走的路,跟自己走过的一样时,就会身同感受,就会好心的帮你指出来,希望自己的体会能够跟你分享。我能说出来的,都是自己的体悟,决没有故弄玄虚的成分。如果,我说的不对,我们也可以展开讨论,论坛就是给我们论拳的地方啊。我刚刚指出你的问题,你就一个拒人千里之外的态度,而且还一个劲的贬低人家,你这个心态是不是正确的呢?
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小慧的評論太籠統了,外行人不會明白的.
可將 smilejohn 和 witty 的視頻,再加網上一個明家的視頻比較.
這樣是更清楚;祇比較一或數式便夠了.
这是李英昂的视频:

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我对肩和手臂的体悟就是:肩没了,手臂就是器械。我曾跟一起练拳的朋友形像的比喻:手臂就是那个机床上的夹具,它的作用顾名思义就是固定我要工作的对象,主要起锁定作用。另外,松肩松手臂,松的只是肌肉,骨头还是有伸张外撑的感觉,就像伸懒腰的那个状态。
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李英昂有顶头悬吗?
问的好,这个也是大家一直争论的问题。顶头悬不一定非要头垂直于地面,只要跟脊椎在一直线上就行。看看那个动物世界里,动物奔跑的时候,头都是伸的很直(与脊椎同线);刘翔跑步冲刺时,头也是往前(与脊椎同线)。在说一个我们都有过跟人吵架的经历,头都是伸的很直,就像那个好斗的公鸡。

顶头悬是非常的重要,体用都要做到,而且每时每刻最好都要做到,通气血,而且也练到神。我们练拳练的就是精气神,要练到精满,气足,神旺。头顶悬做到了,精神就会饱满,即所谓的神开。所以,我以前有说过,我们练拳时都会练到神,那个练精化气,练气化神不是两个独立的阶段。正因为是如此的重要,太极拳要领里,第一个就是它,大家千万不要小视了。顶头悬做到了,剩下的要领就好做了,如松肩,含胸拔背,腹式自然呼吸等等。
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[QUOTE=big bird;3430240]不盡同意.

看看 太極宗師 楊澄甫拳架

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不盡同意.

看看 太極宗師 楊澄甫拳架

分歧多数是在揽雀尾,身子有点前俯时。头顶悬有时不能以外形来判断,因为每个人的体形头形都有小小不同,最容易判断的是,看看人形骨架,后脑那个支撑头部的支撑骨,当这个支撑骨与脊椎骨同线时,人就有小小收下巴的感觉。实在找不到感觉,就假装跟人吵架,体会一下。其实,头顶悬就是人本身自然的反应,很多人到了练拳时,反而找不到感觉了。一切自然,自然就是法则。
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你这几个比喻好象都不恰当,动物奔跑和刘翔跑步都是在调整身型,要求跑得最快;打拳架是在练习与人对打,要求能化开对方的进攻,然后把他击出去,而不是逃跑。

“跟人吵架的经历,头都是伸的很直”的状态则更不符合太极拳理,拳理要求虚领顶劲,不能使劲把头向上伸。
因为用言语不好表达,就用比喻来描述,希望能找到交集处。当然,这几个例子绝对不会就是我们的顶头悬,但有相似部分的。虽说是颈椎伸直,但不能伸到僵硬,我也说过的,一切自然,僵硬就不自然了。谢谢你的参与,让我把问题的描述的更清楚些,以免读者误解。

中和兄,能否你也用你自己的语言描述一下虚领顶劲,你是如何做的?
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