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默认 有知道脊柱侧弯的吗?

我同学的孩子脊柱侧弯,有没有知道这个病的?怎样矫正?

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scoliosis,侧弯多少度啊?普通医生什么建议?

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还有是 functional scoliosis ,还是structural scoliosis?
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谢谢美丽猫,大约30度。不知道是哪一种
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特发性脊柱侧弯
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应该算是functional scoliosis ,可逆转的,想知道加拿大这边有没有矫正仪卖。
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30度挺麻烦的,对于这类问题是个临界值,超过30度就比较困难,少于30度一般不会变得更严重~~
至于是哪一种,需要诊断后得出,医生应该已经有结论了。积极治疗,越早越好,但是尽量不要手术。现在还是有很多方法可以治疗的,他现在打算用哪一种疗法?
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应该算是functional scoliosis ,可逆转的,想知道加拿大这边有没有矫正仪卖。
有一种是brace,就是带矫正器,这个是订做的,没有现成买的,根据每个人不同的情况,医生做的,但效果往往没有预期的理想~~
有没有看过chiropractor或者osteopath呢?他们应该是专家~~
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有一种是brace,就是带矫正器,这个是订做的,没有现成买的,根据每个人不同的情况,医生做的,但效果往往没有预期的理想~~
有没有看过chiropractor或者osteopath呢?他们应该是专家~~
人在中国。想买个好的矫正器。
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一:30~40度为手术-支具的分水岭。30度可以考虑戴支具,40度以上均为手术治疗

二:scoliosis有可能无法治愈为普通人的曲度,西医治疗只能防止病情加重,以至于影响内脏功能。保证能治愈的可能只有修神拜佛+法轮功

三:there are NO medications/therapies/doctors like magic spells in this planet, there is no miracle here, you're gonna find a good doctor that you trust, and follow that doctor(s)' order, this is the only possible and right way to tackle this disease

四:对于非亲属,建议不要随意到药店购买自己不知道功能、患儿家长也未点名购买的所谓“保健品”。很难说是否有过敏反应,或者你今天寄走了xxx,那边有人说xxx绝对不能吃,花了钱搭上功夫也没有作用。替别人购买药品,哪怕是保健品一定要谨慎,不要火上加油。购买多种维生素为一比较benign and acceptable and safe choice of gift

五:多伦多此种手术只有sick kids一家可以做,中国脊柱侧弯治疗已经很普遍,据我所知北京协和医院、北京积水潭医院、南京鼓楼医院都有专门专家治疗

六:治疗不保证能够stop scoliosis发展,需要不断复查,长期的过程

七:这个病,不像扁平足,去shoppers随便买个鞋垫就能邮寄回国表达心意。这个brace是customized,人不在加拿大,没有本地骨科大夫看过病人(不仅仅是X-ray)不可能订做brace,本地买scoliosis brace就不要想了。


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谢谢美丽猫,大约30度。不知道是哪一种

My lord, it is impossible. I am sorry.
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人在中国。想买个好的矫正器。
中国也一样,矫正器是买不到的,不知道有没有定做~~
但是中国也有好的骨科推拿正骨的医生~
这种问题很难完全根治,治疗也是长期的,需要医生和病人双方都配合,但如果找到好医生,可以大大减轻症状~~
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病因是什么呢?
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在医学上“特发性”这个中文,翻译为英语叫做:idiopathic,意思就是找不到病因。在scoliosis这个疾病,排除了先天骨本身的畸形,骨发育异常,trauma,tumor,connective tissue disease以外,没有明显病因的,叫做idiopathic,可能与背部肌肉痉挛、双侧下肢不等长有关,总之病因不清楚。

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可是总得有个原因吧?
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这世界上绝大多数疾病西医都找不到病因。西医与中医不同,不知道病因就说不知道,不会说某某东西不平衡、不调和云云。

人生就是坎坷的,应该这么理解,比如人类出生率男/女比例就不是1比1的(排除B超流产重男轻女etc),男性出生率51%左右,那为什么人类出现30万年以来男/女比例还基本一致呢?是因为我们男性死亡率比女性稍高,很多遗传病男性罹患比例就比女性高,作为女孩已经逃离了那么多不好的,想一想已经平衡了吧。

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这世界上绝大多数疾病西医都找不到病因。西医与中医不同,不知道病因就说不知道,不会说某某东西不平衡、不调和云云。

人生就是坎坷的,应该这么理解,比如人类出生率男/女比例就不是1比1的(排除B超流产重男轻女etc),男性出生率51%左右,那为什么人类出现30万年以来男/女比例还基本一致呢?是因为我们男...
话虽这么说,可以坏事摊到自己家里,总会很伤心的。
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旧 Aug 3rd, 2010, 21:45   只看该作者   #17
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可是总得有个原因吧?
吗、孩子爹妈都很纳闷,。
functional的也许还有点原因,比如姿势不正确啊,长短脚啊,两边肌肉不平衡啊,特别小孩子在发育阶段,长得快的时候,稍不注意就会有脊椎的病变~~
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Jesus said unto him, if thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. --- Mark 9:23

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话虽这么说,可以坏事摊到自己家里,总会很伤心的。
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上帝在你面前关上一扇门,肯定在另一地方有另一扇门为你开着。all you have to do, is to have faith in God, with my hands in his I will go, on through life, let come what may, he'll be...
每个人在生活中都会遇到困境,尽管我不信上帝,但我相信这句话!
谢谢楼上的两位。
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年龄越大治疗越难。现在怎么样了。
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