锅贴太多了，哪位DX能帮着炼炼精？

[坐看枫红]

锅贴很好，内容很丰富。从最初的转贴到后来的跟贴确实都不错。

8过，由于内容太丰富，实在容易给人犯晕的机会！

有哪位DX能抽空回答以下几个问题？

1. 构个锅系统需购买哪几个部分，各有那些选择，在多伦多哪有卖的？

2. 基本锅 有那些功能，能达到哪些需求？

3. 各类锅系统的价格如何？

在海外的中国人中，还是很有些人有中国情节，很希望能看到国内的新闻，中文肥皂剧什么的，在合理的预算下，很希望锅很满足这些需求

谢谢

[BlueWhale]

作者: robli_ca

锅贴很好，内容很丰富。从最初的转贴到后来的跟贴确实都不错。

8过，由于内容太丰富，实在容易给人犯晕的机会！

有哪位DX能抽空回答以下几个问题？

1. 构个锅系统需购买哪几个部分，各有那些选择，在多伦多哪有卖的？

2. 基本锅 有那些功能，能达到哪些需求？

3. 各类锅系统的价格如何？

在海外的中国人中，还是很有些人有中国情节，很希望能看到国内的新闻，中文肥皂剧什么的，在合理的预算下，很希望锅很满足这些需求

谢谢

1 包括锅，LNB和接收机。锅，功能类似于太阳灶，或者镜子，就是把卫星信号反射集中到一点。LNB，高频头，就是天线，把锅集中的信号接收来，变成低频信号传送给接收机。
2 锅只有大小的区别。接收机才体现功能好坏。
3 B v u和D*N的信号很强，用很小的锅（18‘，20‘）信号就很强了。免费的节目信号都很弱，需要大锅。小锅50就能买到，大锅一般100左右，都包括LNB。接收机就难说了，100到1000都有。250能买PANSAT2500或FORTEC，收免费节目没问题。

[坐看枫红]

作者: BlueWhale

1 包括锅，LNB和接收机。锅，功能类似于太阳灶，或者镜子，就是把卫星信号反射集中到一点。LNB，高频头，就是天线，把锅集中的信号接收来，变成低频信号传送给接收机。
2 锅只有大小的区别。接收机才体现功能好坏。
3 B v u和D*N的信号很强，用很小的锅（18‘，20‘）信号就很强了。免费的节目信号都很弱，需要大锅。小锅50就能买到，大锅一般100左右，都包括LNB。接收机就难说了，100到1000都有。250能买PANSAT2500或FORTEC，收免费节目没问题。

基本型：
能否介绍下免费节目的内涵？有那些免费的中文台？
a：在一个锅的情况下，最多可以看到几个国内台，例如：云贵川浙湘.....
b: 俺理解，在一个锅的情况下，应该可以收看到多个台吧，这个台的切换什么的是怎么个情况？我看贴中有说用步进电机的，这个感觉太专业了点

懵懂型：
a: 大家讨论的解码什么的（偶是这么理解的）是在接收机这里吧？如果用电脑代替的话，是否只能在电脑上看了？ 还是有什么卡可以用把信号输出给电视什么的？ 如果可以输出给电视的话，是否可以用某种方式输出给多台电视泥？最后这个问题关键是在成本上，这个有可操作的解决方案吗？

[yunboo]

我曾经跟你有同样的想法，可是仔细想想，问题永远是没完没了的，只能碰到什么解决什么了。
其实大家的问题在前面的贴子里都能找到答案，如果肯花点时间的话。

----在一个锅的情况下，最多可以看到几个国内台，例如：云贵川浙湘.....
目前在加拿大是2个，CCTV4 & CCTV9, 半月前有福建和辽宁，现在没有了，将来都还难说。
-----在一个锅的情况下，应该可以收看到多个台吧，这个台的切换什么的是怎么个情况？
和电视一样。

其他问题前面都有答案。

[cycle]

looks endless premitive question.
see here:
初烧手册1
For Canadian Chinese:
http://www.chinasmile.net/forums/sho...9&page=2&pp=20

Correction Update(coz I could not edit my previous post in this forum)
For Canadian Chinese:
天线（DISH+LNB）+ 接收机 + 电视。
或
天线（DISH+LNB）+ 接收卡 + 电脑 (+视频硬件解码卡+电视)。

CCTV4是免费节目, 它是线性化信号, Canada本地的Cir. LNB头不行, you can buy the linear LNB from China or universal LNB locally.

In 加拿大c美^:
1.收看 CCTV4 和 CCTV9 接收P尺寸必符合以下l件:大部分加拿大c美^I直 from 55 cm to 76 cm l星接收天(Dish)+ LNBF(LNB)
LNB俗称降频器（也就是高频头），顾名思义就是把频率降低
接收Chinese FTA要用either "线极化" 的or Linear function compatible Universal LNB.


2.1 滴唤邮C(Digital Receiver)/解码器(IRD:Integrated Receiver and Decoder): 即是接收机，又是解码器，如果没有加密模块，就是FTA，加上什么加密模块，就可以用于什么系统. Or Decryption FTA receiver (with some of the scramble system in the memory), you got to update the scramble key or new scramble system following scramble system updating.(Note: 门限要低，而且要有S端子，操作简单,注意电压问题110v in Canada)
In Canada community, BB, pansat and Fortec are most three pop. receivers supported by local testers.
Chinese FTA is good to receive Chinese FTA as CCTV4, but not supported by Ca testers so far.
or
2.2 双汉1020电脑卫视接收卡(人民币价格:800.00)
特性：配合电脑就像一台带硬盘录像功能的数字卫星接收机。能接收卫星信号和数字广播信号，可及时录像和预约录像，多频道预览，立体声电子节目表功能。支持上网，及接受各种电子信息功能，另具备视频捕捉等功能，支持0-22k DiSEqC和13/18伏控制

3. Signal Distribution, 馈线(cables);

I am using 55cm dish, linear LNB, Chinese FTA receiving CCTV4 from G3C now.

[坐看枫红]

作者: cycle

looks endless premitive question.
see here:
初烧手册1
For Canadian Chinese:
http://www.chinasmile.net/forums/sho...9&page=2&pp=20

Correction Update(coz I could not edit my previous post in this forum)
For Canadian Chinese:
天线（DISH+LNB）+ 接收机 + 电视。
或
天线（DISH+LNB）+ 接收卡 + 电脑 (+视频硬件解码卡+电视)。

CCTV4是免费节目, 它是线性化信号, Canada本地的Cir. LNB头不行, you can buy the linear LNB from China or universal LNB locally.

In 加拿大c美^:
1.收看 CCTV4 和 CCTV9 接收P尺寸必符合以下l件:大部分加拿大c美^I直 from 55 cm to 76 cm l星接收天(Dish)+ LNBF(LNB)
LNB俗称降频器（也就是高频头），顾名思义就是把频率降低
接收Chinese FTA要用either "线极化" 的or Linear function compatible Universal LNB.


2.1 滴唤邮C(Digital Receiver)/解码器(IRD:Integrated Receiver and Decoder): 即是接收机，又是解码器，如果没有加密模块，就是FTA，加上什么加密模块，就可以用于什么系统. Or Decryption FTA receiver (with some of the scramble system in the memory), you got to update the scramble key or new scramble system following scramble system updating.(Note: 门限要低，而且要有S端子，操作简单,注意电压问题110v in Canada)
In Canada community, BB, pansat and Fortec are most three pop. receivers supported by local testers.
Chinese FTA is good to receive Chinese FTA as CCTV4, but not supported by Ca testers so far.
or
2.2 双汉1020电脑卫视接收卡(人民币价格:800.00)
特性：配合电脑就像一台带硬盘录像功能的数字卫星接收机。能接收卫星信号和数字广播信号，可及时录像和预约录像，多频道预览，立体声电子节目表功能。支持上网，及接受各种电子信息功能，另具备视频捕捉等功能，支持0-22k DiSEqC和13/18伏控制

3. Signal Distribution, 馈线(cables);

I am using 55cm dish, linear LNB, Chinese FTA receiving CCTV4 from G3C now.

记不清是92年还是96年，国家发文禁了锅，当时对南方某些上这个项目的企业影响还是很大的，就感觉象是一下子毁了一片林子。

现在回忆起来，以前坐车经104国道过杭绍平原时，总能看到农民盖在小洋楼上补了出生证的小锅，一片一片的，其中又以萧山地界为多。对农民来说，按个开关，能看到卫视中文台才是正解吧。

卫星接收也好，电脑网络也罢。对咱普通老百姓来说，也就是按个纽，点个鼠标。然后就看到电视节目，阅读点网上花边新闻罢了。真要什么发烧友，破解道友之类的，那... 那我觉得已经不是“生活百事”这么俗的东西了.... 估摸着该到电子爱好者网站的烧锅俱乐部这样的阳春白雪里去找了.....

大多的中国人是越来越多了，华文市场也在不断扩大。如果这个整锅能越来越傻瓜化的话，我以为对大家都是有好的影响的....


俺觉得自己有点多嘴了，如果.... 咱们接着练....

[cycle]

You bet. I start this game from knowing nothing couple of months ago.

"整锅能越来越傻瓜化" this is not possible. If u wanna FTA or decryption program, there is no solution for "傻瓜化", u got to be a fan, u got be enjoy playing with it. You can see the situation right now, FTA would be changed, the encryption or scramble system would be changed for almost each 6 months. One word, u got to pay if u wanna play.

It is easy game to step in anyway, for most real DVB fans, they would search Sate. in the cold winding and raining rather then watching the program in sofa .....

[newsgroup]

请问如果要用一个锅看至少CCTV4/9 , 凤凰卫士,和BELL EXPRESS　ＶU　的所有台，锅要买多大的,有没有特殊要求，要不要买ＳＷ２１－－－ＬＮＢ　要买两种还是两个ＵＮＩＶＥＲＳＡＬ的?

马达需要吗,容易安装吗?

BTW, 如何在烟囱(砖/水泥)上固定锅? (屋顶是斜的）

多谢了

[cnyouyou]

这不以是一问一答吗， 还是和锅贴放在一起吧， 锅贴可华枫的一大财富

不但要有DX炼炼精， 还要开个系列
1. 扫盲系列(What's ?)
2. 入门ABC系列
3. 提高系列Step by Step DIY
4. 精通系列(Inside?)

[cycle]

作者: newsgroup

请问如果要用一个锅看至少CCTV4/9 , 凤凰卫士,和BELL EXPRESS　ＶU　的所有台，锅要买多大的,有没有特殊要求，要不要买ＳＷ２１－－－ＬＮＢ　要买两种还是两个ＵＮＩＶＥＲＳＡＬ的?

马达需要吗,容易安装吗?

BTW, 如何在烟囱(砖/水泥)上固定锅? (屋顶是斜的）

多谢了

Your request is beyond FTA, belong to testing question.
You can buy a used Bell dish and Cir. LNB locally together, buy a BB, Fortec or Pansit receiver locally or EBay, or sate. Card. That's it, this is the basic install.
Buying a motor is personal preference. Most people don't bother it.

[newsgroup]

作者: cycle

Your request is beyond FTA, belong to testing question.
You can buy a used Bell dish and Cir. LNB locally together, buy a BB, Fortec or Pansit receiver locally or EBay, or sate. Card. That's it, this is the basic install.
Buying a motor is personal preference. Most people don't bother it.

多谢答复,

请问BELL的锅可以看FTA吗,还是要一定尺寸的, 18寸的可以吗?

如果要以后要装两个高凭头( 一个线性,一个圆的还要买啥呢?) 另外,UNIVERSAL　的ＬＮＢ　可以看ＦＴＡ　吗，

谢了

[cycle]

作者: newsgroup

多谢答复,

请问BELL的锅可以看FTA吗,还是要一定尺寸的, 18寸的可以吗?

如果要以后要装两个高凭头( 一个线性,一个圆的还要买啥呢?) 另外,UNIVERSAL　的ＬＮＢ　可以看ＦＴＡ　吗，

谢了

As I know,
1. some Chinese is using Chinese DVB system(55cm - 76cm Dish, Linear LNB, Chinese FTA receiver) to receive FTA, all of the parts bought from China. I don't know if any Chinese is using Bell dish with linear LNB to receive FTA. Personally, I don't use Bell Dish and linear LNB to receive FTA. The reason is below.
2. some people is using Bell dish with circle LNB with BB, Fortec, Pansit or sate. PC card to test Bell and Di$h encryption program. You can read the long post about "没锅的日子真难受" right now. Coz Di$H encryption program include CCTV4 and some other Chinese encryption program. This not FTA stuff, totally not. That's why nobody using Bell dish to receive FTA.

If you wanna FTA, just buy Chinese FTA system from China, better 76cm dish.

If you wanna testing, so far, just buy BB, Pansit, Fortec receiver or Sate. PC card, plus used Bell dish and cir. LNB. This set only for testing rather then FTA.

Never confused FTA with testing together, that's two totally different issues. different systems.

DO u understand right now?

[newsgroup]

作者: cycle

As I know,
1. some Chinese is using Chinese DVB system(55cm - 76cm Dish, Linear LNB, Chinese FTA receiver) to receive FTA, all of the parts bought from China. I don't know if any Chinese is using Bell dish with linear LNB to receive FTA. Personally, I don't use Bell Dish and linear LNB to receive FTA. The reason is below.
2. some people is using Bell dish with circle LNB with BB, Fortec, Pansit or sate. PC card to test Bell and Di$h encryption program. You can read the long post about "没锅的日子真难受" right now. Coz Di$H encryption program include CCTV4 and some other Chinese encryption program. This not FTA stuff, totally not. That's why nobody using Bell dish to receive FTA.

If you wanna FTA, just buy Chinese FTA system from China, better 76cm dish.

If you wanna testing, so far, just buy BB, Pansit, Fortec receiver or Sate. PC card, plus used Bell dish and cir. LNB. This set only for testing rather then FTA.

Never confused FTA with testing together, that's two totally different issues. different systems.

DO u understand right now?

Thanks for the reply, man.

hmmm, i think i see what you are saying. I guess i will give "testing" a shot ---no offense to you orthodox FTAer but simply try to be more "flexiable" here.

Just to clarify, any size of Bell Dish should work in my case ,right?

One more question, do i still need dual LNB installed in my "testing" mode ?

[cycle]

I know Bell only offer one size dish. and you can put dual LNBs on the Bell dish for testing and FTA. But I don't know the result for FTA. Probably no good for FTA. You can try.

[newsgroup]

作者: cycle

I know Bell only offer one size dish. and you can put dual LNBs on the Bell dish for testing and FTA. But I don't know the result for FTA. Probably no good for FTA. You can try.

wow, it is a QUICK reply.

are you in Vancouver? Do you sell satellite staff ? I am about to buy these sateliite parts and i guess why not just buy it off someone who knows staff :-)

PM me if you do.

[-dk]

能够提供 satellite tv 配件。 ：） 有需要的请联系我. iories2@hotmail.com

一般的package = TwinHan Vision Plus 1020A + 33INCH dish（18",24") + standard LNB + Diseqc switch(optional) + Installation kit (mainly, cable). 这个package大家希望 how much 可以拿下？

[cycle]

I am your strong rival in the ice hokey field, Calgary Flame is our team. And currently, I am not doing this business now. Maybe future, but not now. Nevertheless, I like to discuss here, to help and get help.

[newsgroup]

作者: cycle

I am your strong rival in the ice hokey field, Calgary Flame is our team. And currently, I am not doing this business now. Maybe future, but not now. Nevertheless, I like to discuss here, to help and get help.

not a big hockey fan but too bad you are not in van .

[yunboo]

作者: cycle

I am your strong rival in the ice hokey field, Calgary Flame is our team. And currently, I am not doing this business now. Maybe future, but not now. Nevertheless, I like to discuss here, to help and get help.

so good to know you like hockey game. hockey is my 1st. hobby, and sat. is the 2nd. i play hockey in each winter season.

[cycle]

Go Flame Go, Go Flame Go!!!!!

Boo Leaf boo, Boo Leaf boo!!!!!

Just kidding, no offending. Good to know we both have the exactly same hobby.