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依我看这几年是房子影响了经济,房子虚高刺激了经济。这次危机的根源是房子虚高。 TORONTO稍微过得去的HOUSE很多人买不起了,才刺激了CONDO,现在连CONDO都买不起了。 |
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Oct 6th, 2008, 23:27 | #2 |
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Oct 7th, 2008, 09:56 | #3 |
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加拿大道明银行信托(TD Canada Trust)于10月7日正式升高变动利率抵押以及房屋净值贷款利息至5.75%(高于最低银行利率),预计其它各大银行会相继效仿。 根据加拿大皇家银行(Royal Bank of Canada)在线抵押贷款计算,以此利率计算,期限利率费用5年就会增加1万多元,两周一次还款将从657.83元升至725.90元。 其实,信贷危机以及经济上的不稳定性使得加拿大各大银行开始大量储备现金,从而抬高了短期贷款成本,上周定期贷款利率已经升高。 周一,加财长费海提(Jim Flaherty)表示,“全球信贷危机恶化升级,即使是最强的金融巨头机构也不得不升高长期抵押贷款利率,限制企业和个人长期贷款。” 另外,虽然如此,一些顾客仍可获得5.55%的固定抵押贷款利率5年,两周一次还款额为707.66元(25年分期偿还25万元贷款)。 |
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Oct 7th, 2008, 10:00 | #4 |
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个人感觉出租房子很繁。投资基金收益(10%)不比投资房子差。 以上文本借助www.InputKing.com在线中文输入法输入 |
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Oct 7th, 2008, 19:21 | #8 |
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我早就说了,其实前几年是反常,房子不停的大贵,利息也低,经济发展很快,其实政府要适当控制(调高利率),但没有。大家都在借钱买房子发财,好象买房子了一定发,不管自己的支付能力,银行也在发。现在好了,美国银行要倒光了,加拿大银行也怕了,我觉的加拿大现在的情形就象美国去年,刚开始,当房子跌到一定程度,有大批人破产了,那加拿大就到了美国现在的样子了。哪个银行会说我可能有很多钱收不回来?,有多严重只有银行知道。TD的贷款P+1,是要减少贷款,留着血防不测。美国现在就这样那些银行最好你借钱给他,美国银行没钱的后果已经表现出来,企业无法发展更新,失业率增加。 我买不买房子,自有自己的打算,反正现在是绝对不买。 此帖于 Oct 9th, 2008 13:29 被 星手 编辑。 |
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Ottawa on Friday committed to taking a sequence of escalating steps to protect Canada's banks and prevent a collapse in the financial system as part of a joint plan agreed to in Washington by the world's richest countries. With Canada's banks caught in the grips of a worsening squeeze in global credit, the government agreed to a common international approach that could cost hundreds of billions of dollars if financial chiefs are unable to halt the downward spiral in markets. Ottawa agreed to the plan during tense talks between the Group of Seven most-industrialized countries after unveiling a plan to buy $25-billion of mortgages from Canadian banks, which are unable to secure normal financing because of a crisis of confidence. The scheme to buy up mortgages is expected to be extended to cover more of the $450-billion in conventional mortgages sitting on the books of Canada's top banks, if their access to international credit markets does not improve. With three days to go before the election, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his government was "developing a series of market measures if [it's] necessary to intervene proactively." The controversial blueprint agreed in Washington between finance ministers and central bankers is designed to avoid systemic collapse, and came after a fresh rout in stock markets that pushed the TSX below the 9,000 mark for the first time in three years and saw the Dow plunge 18% this week in New York. Amid bitter public feuding between nations, the agenda for the G7 meeting attended by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty was torn up as tense negotiations edged towards a sweeping global plan to replace ad hoc interventions. The plan would see countries agree to provide liquidity and capital as needed to financial institutions and money markets and follow a common approach to extending deposit guarantees. The joint plan being hammered out after a series of unilateral actions by individual governments failed to halt a free-fall in stock markets or restore confidence to a level banks have started lending to each other again as normal. The approach aims to learn from past mistakes and combine best practice, but goes far beyond what is seen as necessary for Canada, which would not immediately be obligated to take such steps. "It is a matter of trying to instill some confidence on the global economy," said Maurice Greenberg, of the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. He said more limited steps would be expected of Ottawa, unless the impact on Canada's banking system continued to worsen. A joint statement agreed by Canada said countries would support "systemically important financial institutions and prevent their failure". The extraordinary commitment means Ottawa has effectively agreed to save the country's top banks in the event they faltered, although that was not seen as an immediate risk in Canada. But Ottawa was reluctant to announce any major steps before election day after agreeing to buy up $25-billion worth of mortgages from Canada's banks by effectively lifting the limit on the pools of assets the Canada Mortgage Housing Corporation is allowed to buy up. Financial institutions are having difficulty selling these loans into capital markets as mortgage-backed securities because of historically low demand from investors. The message to Canada's banks from the government was: "Here's $25-billion now and if you need more there is potentially a lot more behind that," said Michael Goldberg of Desjardins Securities. "The purpose of the scheme is to put $25-billion of cash into Canada's banking system that can then be loaned out," said Andrew Fleming of Ogilvy Renault. "This is going to make loans and mortgages more available and more affordable for ordinary Canadians and businesses," Mr. Flaherty said. Several of Canada's leading banks responded by cutting their prime rates, passing on more of the emergency rate cut announced earlier this week by the Bank of Canada as TD Canada Trust was first out of the blocks, saying it would lowering its prime rate 15 basis points to 4.35%, followed by the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. The Bank of Montreal and Bank of Nova Scotia went further, passing on the full central bank rate cut by reducing the cost of prime lending to 4.25%. Tim Hockey, the head of TD's retail chain, said the era when banks reduced interest rates in lock step with the Bank of Canada was over. "No longer is a Bank of Canada rate cut actually reflected 100% in the financial institutions' actual cost of funds," he said. "There are other forces at play, as you see, in the financial marketplace. The cost of funds generally have continued to increase dramatically." Close Presented by 加拿大的银行可能比美国的还惨,先被美国次贷砍了一刀,现在又要为加拿大的前几年房子贷款付出代价了,现在加拿大房子才开始跌,银行就扛不住了,250亿。而且大家不要听信JJ的谣言,事实是当房地产不景气,经济不景气时,政府为刺激房地产,减少企业负担,促进经济,而降低贷款利息。当房地产经济过热时是提高贷款利息,就是前几年当房地产过热时,政府没有提高贷款利息,,才有现在危机。不管政府怎么救,房价都要回归正常的价格,这是规律,否则危机还会爆发。据专家计算,加拿大是几个最发达国家房价最高的。 此帖于 Oct 10th, 2008 22:02 被 星手 编辑。 |
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你还是要说房价跌了利息涨,如果那样恭喜你,房价还没跌够,银行终于明白不要借钱给要破产的人。 当然银行是不会说我要没钱了,那第2天,银行就关门了。 希望你不是JJ,前几年的房价疯狂,不但使银行家过剩,JJ更过剩了。 此帖于 Oct 11th, 2008 22:46 被 星手 编辑。 |
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Oct 14th, 2008, 07:30 | #14 |
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经济不好谁都不好过,一些人还在坑蒙拐骗害别人就更不好了。 经济是被人说坏了吗?不管我们怎么说经济该怎样还是怎样,是这些年的房地产泡沫制造了这次危机的。 对没买房子的人房子跌了有什么不好? |
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你说的没错,各人有各人的想法,但什么房价跌,利息涨之类就是在在坑蒙拐骗害别人。您说会这样吗?可能性超过30%吗??任何人都无法知道未来,只能预测。现在明摆着房地产泡沫破了,造成严重经济危机,可见这泡沫有多大,房子大跌的可能性几乎是100%。市场为什么惊慌?是什么造成人惊慌?不会无原无故的吧,是高房价造成了大量人破产,而不是惊慌造成经济危机。
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坚持不住还是和他们资金相关,和房价无关?高薪买贵的,负担也一样重,一样会坚持不住的,而且概率可能更高。你想LABOUR LAYOFF找起来很容易,可高薪的那些人靠做LABOUR养得起原来的房子吗? 能否做个调查,现在中国人破产的有几个?可政府的250亿怎么回事?我想不能拿中国的理财方式去推断当地人的。 此帖于 Oct 14th, 2008 12:50 被 星手 编辑。 |
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加拿大的房价水平比美国还高,才开始,现在政府已经帮助银行250亿,根据加拿大比美国小10倍的比例,也相当于2500亿,美国是房价跌了多少后,政府才出7000亿的。但加拿大房价才开始跌,今后谁知道? |
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