关心中国民主的海外华裔给诺贝尔评奖委员会的第二封信中英文

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 16:43

海外人士反对刘晓波获诺贝尔奖的第二封公开信

尊敬的诺贝尔评奖委员会：

我们曾在今年的三月初发给你们一封信，信中表达了我们不同意刘晓波为2010年诺贝尔和平奖合格候选人的意见。因为，他在二十年前就与中共极权政府合作，公开在全国电视台讲话为中共在天安门广场屠杀学生掩饰罪行。又因为，他在去年被非法拘留近一年后，于2009年12月23日在北京法庭审判中歪曲事实地发表了《我没有敌人——我的最后陈述》的陈词，为中共的监狱美言，还称赞中共把“尊重和保障人权”写进宪法，是“标志着人权已经成为中国法治的根本原则之一。”他二十年来不顾事实地公开赞扬一贯践踏人权的中共的行为对中国民主运动起到误导作用和恶劣影响。他的这些表现都使他丧失了一位诺贝尔奖得主应具备的道德形象。

另外，我们要告知贵委员会的最新情况是，最近，有人发给贵委员会的一份有数百人签名的《呼吁颁诺贝尔和平奖给刘晓波》的呼吁书已经成为丑闻。因为，这份呼吁书的发起人并没有征求本人同意就把他们手中握有的一个巨大的人名单全部作为签名人放在了呼吁书的后面。几天内就有数人在网上发出声明表示自己对此签名不知情而被签名，其中有人表示他们不同意刘晓波得奖。据我们所知，被盗用人名的人士有如下几个：羊子、贝岭、邓唤武、王藏、刘国凯、熊炎、曾大军。

最令人遗憾的是，被盗用名字的羊子女士是中国着名异议作家王若望的妻子，王若望在十几年前就发表长文痛斥刘晓波与中共合作的言行。可是，在王若望死了九年后的今天，他的妻子的名字却被用来去支持刘晓波。羊子在给网络作家三妹的电话中说，她对这种盗用他人名字的行为表示遗憾。她还说，这份呼吁书的签名人水分很大，被盗用签名的不止他们这几个人。贝岭是哈维尔著作的中文翻译者，是第一个把哈维尔著作介绍给中国人的中国著名诗人。他的名字竟也在他不知情的情况下被这个呼吁书盗用了。他在二0一0年九月三十日写的一篇文章《是自由，不是桂冠》中遗憾地表示：“很意外地看到我的名字出现在主题为‘呼吁颁诺贝尔和平奖给刘晓波’的中文公开信连署者中。因为我从未收到任何人或组织要我在此公开信上签名的请求，我也未曾在此连署公开信上签过名。”

北京的江天勇律师也在二0一0年十月一日声明撤回此呼吁书上的签名，他在声明中表明自己退出的理由。他说：“我对部分人在呼吁授予刘晓波2010年诺贝尔和平奖的时候，总不忘贬损高智晟、胡佳、陈光诚的行为深表遗憾。当高智晟活不见人死不见尸、陈光诚一家遭凌虐至今、胡佳身患绝症仍深陷囹圄之际，我岂能与那些不依不挠踩他们的人同抬一乘轿子？”

这些不顾信誉盗用他人名字为刘晓波炒作和贬损其他入狱维权律师的行为，不但欺骗了诺贝尔委员会和西方世界，而且也毁坏了中国民运人士的名誉，进一步使刘晓波的形象恶化。我们希望，诺贝尔委员会会对此情况有所警觉。

还有一个情况是，刘晓波因为侵权案子已被告上美国联邦法院，并于二0一0年八月三十日立案。（见链接http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new...v06444/367294/ ）

这个案子使被告人刘晓波在中国异议人士中再次引发巨大争议，他被提名诺贝尔和平奖也遭到更多人的质疑。

鉴于上述三个情况，我们提请诺委会慎重考虑我们的意见：刘晓波这样一个有极大争议性的人物已经不具备诺贝尔和平奖得主应有的道德形象和感召力。

谢谢
二0一0年十月五日

签名人（按姓名拼音排列）：

卞和祥 — 中共制度的政治反对派，中国社会民主党中央委员，美国守护者同盟主席，因追求中国自由民主、支持法轮功反迫害被中共列入黑名单。现住美国纽约。

还学文 — 自由作家，因参与海外独立学者、学生组织，反对中共八九年大屠杀，九二年被中共政府吊销护照。现住在德国埃森。

刘国华 — 中共制度的政治反对派，原中国东北大学副教授，美国守护者同盟副主席，现住美国纽约。

刘晓东 — 自由撰稿人，笔名三妹，因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单。现住美国芝加哥。

鲁德成 — 中共制度的政治反对派，因参加1989年天安门民主运动和蛋击毛像被判处有期徒刑16年，1998年获假释出狱。现住加拿大卡城。

王胜林 — 中国异见人士，现任汇丰银行资深金融信息分析师，因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单。现住美国芝加哥。

伍凡 — 中共制度的政治反对派，现任《中国事务》总编辑、中国独立笔会成员、中国自由文化运动协调委员会委员。1957年被当局内定右派份子，1968年被当局定为现行反革命份子判有期徒刑20年，劳改12年，于1979年11月释放，回中国安徽师范大学任教。现住美国加州洛杉矶。

萧虹 — 自由撰稿人，现住丹麦。

徐水良 — 中共制度的政治反对派，1973年开始投身中国民主运动，1975年至1979年，1981年5月至1991年5月，两度因参与和支持中国民主运动而入狱十多年。现住美国纽约。

许毅 — 学者，现任教于英国伦敦大学学院。因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单并多年被禁止回中国探亲。现住英国伦敦。

袁红冰 — 自由作家，法学家，《中国自由文化运动》发起人，因参加1989年天安门民主运动遭中共当局秘密逮捕，被政治流放到中国偏远城市贵州，2004年在澳大利亚寻求政治避难。现居澳大利亚悉尼。

张国亭 — 中共制度的政治反对派，网络工作者，1960年十六岁时即被捕劳改，后被定为“反革命罪”判无期徒刑，坐牢长达二十二年，于1982年出狱并逃亡丹麦。现住丹麦。

仲维光 — 自由作家，因发表研究指出共产党思想及文化的问题，并发表文章批评中国共产党政府而被中共列入黑名单，九七年被吊销护照。现住德国埃森。

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Diane Xiaodong Liu
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许毅
Yi Xu, Ph.D.
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University College London
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Second letter to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee
from Overseas Chinese Concerned with Chinese Democracy

To: Nobel Peace Prize Committee

Date：October 4, 2010

Respected Nobel Prize Committee:

We wrote to you in March this year to express our opinion that Mr. Liu Xiaobo is unsuitable as a candidate for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. Our reason is that as early as twenty years ago he collaborated with the totalitarian Chinese Communist Party (CCP) by making a speech on national TV denying CCP’s crime of murdering innocent students in Tiananmen Square.

In January 12th, 2009, nearly one year after he was illegally detained, he made a statement entitled “I have no enemies——my final statement” during his trial in a Beijing court. In this statement, he glorified the CCP’s prison system, and praised the CCP for putting “respecting and protecting human rights” into the constitution, and describing it as “a sign that human rights have become one of the fundamental principles of Chinese law.” His open praise in the last twenty years for the CCP, which has never stopped trampling human rights, has been extremely misleading and influential. Through these deeds he has lost the moral image fit for a Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

Additionally, we would like to inform you of a new development. That is, a letter entitled “Appeal for the Nobel Peace Prize for Liu Xiaobo” that someone recently sent to you has become a scandal, because the authors of the letter put all the names of a list in their possession on the letter as cosigners without their consent. In just a few days a number of people have issued statements on the Internet that their names had been used without their knowledge, and some of them did not even agree that Liu Xiaobo deserved the Prize. As far as we know, the following people have their names put on the letter without their consent: Yang Zi, Bei Ling, Deng Huanwu, Wang Zang, Liu Guokai, Xiong Yan，Zeng Dajun.

Most unfortunately, Ms. Yang Zi, whose name was also unwittingly included, is the wife of the well-known dissident writer Wang Ruowang. Wang wrote a long article over ten years ago criticizing Liu Xiaobo’s collaboration with the CCP. However, nine years after his death, his wife’s name was used to support Liu Xiaobo. In her phone call to the web writer San Mei, Yang Zi expressed her disappointment for the un-consented use of other people’s names, and said that many more than the above-mentioned names were also used without consent. Mr. Bei Ling, whose name was also unwittingly included, is the Chinese translator of Vaclav Havel’s book. In his article “It is freedom, not laureate”, published on September 30, 2010, he said that “I was really unexpected to see myself as a cosigner of a letter with the title ‘Appeal for the Nobel Peace Prize for Liu Xiaobo’, because I had never received from any person or organization a request for my signature on the letter, and I have never signed my name on the letter.”

Attorney Jiang Tianyong from Beijing also issued a statement on October 1, 2010 to withdraw his signature from the appeal letter. In his statement he explained his reason for the withdrawal: “I was deeply disappointed by those who always manage to defame Gao Zhisheng, Hu Jia and Chen Guangcheng when appealing for giving Liu Xiaobo the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. When even the life or death of Gao Zhisheng is still unknown, when the whole family of Chen Guangcheng is being persecuted even as of today, and when Hu Jia is being imprisoned despite incurable diseases, how can I blow the same horn as those who persistently try to put them down?”

Such acts of using other people’s name without their consent and degrading other imprisoned lawyers is not only cheating the Nobel Prize Committee and the Western world, but also damaging the name of the Chinese dissidents, which makes the image of Liu Xiaobo even worse. We hope the Nobel Prize Committee will become aware of this situation.

Finally, Mr. Liu Xiaobo has been sued in the US Federal Court in a civil rights case, which is filed on August 30, 2010 (see web link at http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new...v06444/367294/)
This law suit has once again made Liu Xiaobo extremely controversial among Chinese dissidents. His nomination has also been questioned by more people.
Based on the afore-mentioned three reasons, we urge the Nobel Committee to seriously consider our opinion, namely, as a highly controversial figure, Mr. Liu Xiaobo has lost the moral image fit for a Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

Sincerely and respectfully yours,

Co-signers:

Bian Hexiang

Anti-CCP activist. Member, Central Committee of Chinese Social Democratic Party; Chairman, The Coalition of Guards For American Values, Inc.; blacklisted by CCP for the pursuit of freedom and democracy in China and support for Fanlun Gong’s struggle against persecution. Now living in New York City, USA.

Huan Xuewen

Freelance writer. Passport invalidated by CCP in 1992 for joining overseas independent students and scholars organizations and opposing the 1989 massacre by CCP. Now living in Essen, Germany.

Liu Guohua

Anti-CCP activist, Former Associate Professor of Northeastern University, China. Vice Chairman, The Coalition of Guards For American Values, Inc. Now living in New York City, USA.

Liu Xiaodong

Freelance writer, Pen name: San Mei. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in Chicago, USA.

Lu Decheng

Anti-CCP activist. Sentenced to imprisonment for 15 years for participating in the 1989 Tiananmen pro-democracy movement and defacing Mao’s portrait on Tiananmen with paint-filled eggs; released on parole in 1998. Now living in Calgary, Canada.

Wang Shenglin

Chinese dissident, Senior Financial Information Analyst at HSBC. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in Chicago, USA.

Wu Fan

Anti-CCP activist. Chief Editor, China Affairs, member of Independent Chinese PEN Centre; member, Coordinating Committee of Chinese Liberal Culture Movement; labeled as a rightist by CCP in 1957, charged as a reactionary and sentenced to imprisonment for 20 years in 1968; served in labor camp for 12 years; released in November, 1979, and then taught in Anhui Teachers College, China. Now living in Los Angeles, USA.

Xiao Hong

Freelance writer. Now living in Denmark.

Xiao Jing

Manager, Broad Book USA. Rose against CCP for mother’s persecution by CCP for practicing Falun Gong; Canadian citizen. Now living in New York City, USA.

Xu Shuiliang

Anti-CCP activist. Devoted to Chinese pro-democracy movement from 1973; jailed twice from 1975-1979 and May 1981- May 1991 for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in New York City, USA.

Xu Yi

Associate Professor at University College London, UK. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements, and denied passport renewal for many years. Now living in London, UK.

Yuan Hongbing

Freelance writer, jurist, founder of Chinese Liberal Culture Movement. Arrested by CCP for participating in the 1989 Tiananmen pro-democracy movement; exiled to Guizhou, China; sought political asylum in Australia in 2004. Now living in Sydney, Australia.

Zhang Guoting

Anti-CCP activist, Internet writer. Arrested and sentenced to labor camp in 1960 at age 16, subsequently sentenced to life imprisonment for reactionary crimes, served in prison for 22 years, released in 1982 and fled to Denmark. Now living in Denmark.

Zhong Weiguang

Freelance writer. Blacklisted by CCP for publications that point out the problems of Communism and Communist culture, and articles that criticize the CCP government; passport invalidated by CCP in 1997. Now living in Essen, Germany.

Contact persons:
Diane Xiaodong Liu
Email: DianeLiu28@sbcglobal.net
Tel: 312-733-8123

Yi Xu, Ph.D.
Reader in Speech Science
Department of Speech, Hearing and Phonetic Sciences
University College London
Chandler House
2 Wakefield Street
London WC1N 1PF
ＵK
Cell: +44 07910 455 428.
Tel: 020 7679 4082 (internal 24082)
Fax: 020 7679 4238
email: yi@phon.ucl.ac.uk

张三的四 · Oct 12th, 2010, 17:08

刘晓波作为死磕的清流，明知结果，也要发表个《零八宪章》获刑11年，就这一点，已可做所有知识分子的行为典范。刘的政治观点可能欠妥，可能片面，但他用自己的行动来证明自己信念的坚定，足矣。

如果按照共产党的观点，恐怕这个和平奖只有发给余秋雨之流才是最佳选择。

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 17:19

我一直把刘的获奖看成是对所有民运有关活动的肯定和鼓励, 也包括反对刘获奖的人.

还是要把主要精力向前看, 注重合作.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:17

你认为能与把法轮功称为“屎”和“渔民”的人合作吗？你认为能与哪些把与中共勾结得了一个和谐奖捧为神灵而把真正反共的诬蔑为“畜生”的人合作吗？

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

我一直把刘的获奖看成是对所有民运有关活动的肯定和鼓励, 也包括反对刘获奖的人.

还是要把主要精力向前看, 注重合作.

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:31

引用:

作者: 弃绝尘世

你认为能与把法轮功称为“屎”和“渔民”的人合作吗？你认为能与哪些把与中共勾结得了一个和谐奖捧为神灵而把真正反共的诬蔑为“畜生”的人合作吗？

这些人在民运中也是极少数吧. 我想民运对这个认识也有时间问题. 多数人对FLG还是同情的.

对一个人和一种信仰, 应该有基本的尊重, 即使是对西方的共产党也是如此, 但目前和以前执政的共产党, 没有一个是好东西.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:43

就在这里，都自称是刘晓波的支持者，比如那个叫星手, peaceofmind的。他们不要说对法轮功“基本的尊重”，更是恶意中伤。

引用:

作者: 星手

就是了，在街上碰到几次，学FLG怎么样，不学怎么样？（具体就不多说了，太恶心了）简直不象说人话。当然，有些人还就从来认为自己说人话。
FLG就是共产党的得意徒弟，锻炼身体还打棋，好象江湖买意的。共产党上街捣乱扫地也是大部分时间拿来抗骑上了。都不是实在的东西。
你不会说毛泽东的徒弟李轰制应该拿诺贝...

引用:

作者: peaceofmind

...FLG和难民的申请已收紧下一步就是你们贪官和奸商等着下地狱吧 FLG是屎你连屎都不如因为你是靠吃屎来维持你们的贪婪和欺诈

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

这些人在民运中也是极少数吧.

对一个人和一种信仰, 应该有基本的尊重, 即使是对西方的共产党也是如此, 但目前和以前执政的共产党, 没有一个是好东西.

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:47

引用:

作者: 弃绝尘世

就在这里，都自称是刘晓波的支持者，比如那个叫星手, peaceofmind的。他们不要说对法轮功“基本的尊重”，更是恶意中伤。

我们不能要求所有人的认识都一致. 西方人对基督教的看法也有不同呢. 每个人都有自己不喜欢的东西和人.分歧是绝对的, 统一是相对的.

对于有自由和民主有追求的人, 应该具备起码的人文精神.

因此, 求同存异.对FLG的认识是民运中的一个分歧之一, 但不是唯一的分歧.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:51

什么你的“求同存异”？对共党的窝底你也“求同存异”？从这种人口中出来的这种恶意中伤比共党压迫法轮功危害更大。这也能“求同存异”？

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

我们不能要求所有人的认识都一致. 西方人对基督教的看法也有不同呢. 每个人都有自己不喜欢的东西和人.分歧是绝对的, 统一是相对的.

因此, 求同存异.

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 18:54

引用:

作者: 弃绝尘世

什么你的“求同存异”？对共党的窝底你也“求同存异”？从这种人口中出来的这种恶意中伤比共党压迫法轮功危害更大。这也能“求同存异”？

"共党的窝底", 这种说法和动不动说"五毛"其实一样, 都没有很大的实际意义.

就拿星手来说吧, 他是很反对共产党的独裁的, 我也知道他对FLG的态度, 但我总不能天天和他讨论FLG吧.

你要求别人和你一样, 别人也会要求你和别人一样, 都是不现实的.

你说是吧.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 19:03

我没有要求他和我一样，这种人也不配和我一样。这种人其实就象刘晓波一样表面上好像是反共，可骨子里是在帮共匪的忙。

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

"共党的窝底", 这种说法和动不动说"五毛"其实一样, 都没有很大的实际意义.

就拿星手来说吧, 他是很反对共产党的独裁的, 我也知道他对FLG的态度, 但我总不能天天和他讨论FLG吧.

你要求别人和你一样, 别人也会要求你和别人一样, 都是不现实的.

你说是吧....

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 19:13

引用:

作者: 弃绝尘世

我没有要求他和我一样，这种人也不配和我一样。这种人其实就象刘晓波一样表面上好像是反共，可骨子里是在帮共匪的忙。

我把你的话改一下,

有些人主观上反共, 客观上可能会帮助中共. 这种事情是存在的.

但具体的效果一时间难以判断. 特别是具体到一个人, 应该慎重评价.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 19:23

不是客观上，是主观上，要么他的智商太低了，连谁是朋友谁是敌人都搞不清。这种人都成不了气候的。刘晓波得奖本来就是中共与诺委暗箱操作的结果。

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

我把你的话改一下,

有些人主观上反共, 客观上可能会帮助中共. 这种事情是存在的.

但具体的效果一时间难以判断. 特别是具体到一个人, 应该慎重评价.

宋祖德 · Oct 12th, 2010, 19:34

引用:

作者: 弃绝尘世

刘晓波得奖本来就是中共与诺委暗箱操作的结果。

这个结论我不认同. 而且觉得很可笑.

弃绝尘世 · Oct 12th, 2010, 20:02

刘为什么能得奖？中共在其中的作用是什么？这里仅仅概要说明，供有心人参考和今后的进一步观察，看看我的想法对否。

1、刘有一个《自由中国论坛》，这是唯一的一个在中国可以讨论中国自由民主的论坛，奇怪吧？为了掩人耳目，也开设了魏京生等民主人士的专页。可想而知上面会有多少披着民运外衣、实则美化中共、小骂帮大忙的文化特务！

2、刘在“六四“扦悔录（已经成为五毛攻击学生运动的证据）中的谎言、对维权律师高智晟、胡佳、郭飞雄等真正民运英雄的攻击诬陷，在一定程度上导致这三个人在牢狱中遭受了惨无人道的酷刑折磨，尤其是高智晟做遭受的迫害已突破了人类道德的底线！

3、刘在2009年《我的最后陈述中》对中共的美化令人作呕，想象不到出自一个“民运领袖”之口，对中共人权的进步、和谐、执政能力等大唱赞歌，犹如一个大陆花瓶民主党或者温家宝的报告，并以自己在监狱中所得到的“尊重”大力赞扬中共的人权进步！等于否定了高智晟等众多中国百姓所遭受的残酷迫害。看这是多么的无耻！

4、《08宪章》的真正作者，前团中央官员 - 张祖烨，2009年因为起草《宪章》仅仅被提审了一次，目前也没有任何麻烦，为什么单单做了“向美化中共方向做了修改“的刘晓波被判了11年的重刑？！只有一个解释 - 为“诺贝尔奖”的获得积累资本！

5、 “诺贝尔和平奖评委”因为近年来乱评，如戈尔、欧巴马等的得奖，广受批评，而来自中国的候选人历年来都有多个，总是迫于中共的压力无法授予！在非评不可的情况下，中共当然同意让这个所谓的“民运领袖”得到，在今年第一次被提名就轻易取得了！这是典型的“自伤100、损敌1000”的策略。

可以想见，由这个“诺贝尔和平奖”的获得者来美化中共、鼓吹中共的巨大进步、小骂帮大忙，将对国际社会产生多大的欺骗、误导作用！中共企图用此策略苟延残喘！这就是这盘所谓的“很大很大的棋”。

中共的目的清楚了，就很容易推测它的后续程序，这里仅列一二，供大家将来证实：

1、刘很快就会被释放，中共知道，它们脱延不起，这就是温家宝近期六次谈到政改的原因吧！

2、是否“驱逐出国”，它们会权衡利弊，看其作用，估计将继续留在国内，欺骗性会更大，一旦出国，可能担心控制不住局面！

3、党的喉舌会继续大批刘是罪犯，为增加说服力，提高其资本！

4、“五毛”将冒充民运人士攻击识破这一阴谋的海内外民众，并力挺刘晓波。如何识破他们？两点：

A、表面骂中共，但不触及中共的邪根，诸如“中共正在改革”、正在进步等等。

B、对识破其阴谋的人采取一切手段攻击，根本不是理性地分析。

好了，不多说了，留待大家分析、观察。望有志于加快中国民主进程的朋友，继续努力、提高个人修为和素质，认真研究中共邪性的起源、危害，就这么个被西方世界抛弃了的“马列邪教”垃圾居然在中国祸害了60年？

引用:

作者: 宋祖德

这个结论我不认同. 而且觉得很可笑.

星手 · Oct 12th, 2010, 20:09

很好，看来诺贝尔还有点民主，那要是卖国贼共产党，谁上访是那是反中。而且LZ拿这个文章什么意思？难道他真愚蠢到，不知道任何事情都有人反对。加拿大总理每天都有人反对，难道就不是总理了吗？只能说LZ是无知无耻的畜生才这样。你可以不喜欢任何人，这个很正常，但LZ如果喜欢被卖国贼共产党不当人，他就是畜生了。

世界有几十亿人，就那几个反对，看来诺贝尔还是很公平的，而且看到卖国贼共产党在中国也不敢报道，看来绝大多数人还是认可刘小波的。而且象LZ这样喜欢被共产党当畜生的，根本就反对无效，他就是急得跳死了都没用。

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弃绝尘世 Banned 注册日期: Aug 2010 帖子: 140	关心中国民主的海外华裔给诺贝尔评奖委员会的第二封信中英文海外人士反对刘晓波获诺贝尔奖的第二封公开信尊敬的诺贝尔评奖委员会：我们曾在今年的三月初发给你们一封信，信中表达了我们不同意刘晓波为2010年诺贝尔和平奖合格候选人的意见。因为，他在二十年前就与中共极权政府合作，公开在全国电视台讲话为中共在天安门广场屠杀学生掩饰罪行。又因为，他在去年被非法拘留近一年后，于2009年12月23日在北京法庭审判中歪曲事实地发表了《我没有敌人——我的最后陈述》的陈词，为中共的监狱美言，还称赞中共把“尊重和保障人权”写进宪法，是“标志着人权已经成为中国法治的根本原则之一。”他二十年来不顾事实地公开赞扬一贯践踏人权的中共的行为对中国民主运动起到误导作用和恶劣影响。他的这些表现都使他丧失了一位诺贝尔奖得主应具备的道德形象。另外，我们要告知贵委员会的最新情况是，最近，有人发给贵委员会的一份有数百人签名的《呼吁颁诺贝尔和平奖给刘晓波》的呼吁书已经成为丑闻。因为，这份呼吁书的发起人并没有征求本人同意就把他们手中握有的一个巨大的人名单全部作为签名人放在了呼吁书的后面。几天内就有数人在网上发出声明表示自己对此签名不知情而被签名，其中有人表示他们不同意刘晓波得奖。据我们所知，被盗用人名的人士有如下几个：羊子、贝岭、邓唤武、王藏、刘国凯、熊炎、曾大军。最令人遗憾的是，被盗用名字的羊子女士是中国着名异议作家王若望的妻子，王若望在十几年前就发表长文痛斥刘晓波与中共合作的言行。可是，在王若望死了九年后的今天，他的妻子的名字却被用来去支持刘晓波。羊子在给网络作家三妹的电话中说，她对这种盗用他人名字的行为表示遗憾。她还说，这份呼吁书的签名人水分很大，被盗用签名的不止他们这几个人。贝岭是哈维尔著作的中文翻译者，是第一个把哈维尔著作介绍给中国人的中国著名诗人。他的名字竟也在他不知情的情况下被这个呼吁书盗用了。他在二0一0年九月三十日写的一篇文章《是自由，不是桂冠》中遗憾地表示：“很意外地看到我的名字出现在主题为‘呼吁颁诺贝尔和平奖给刘晓波’的中文公开信连署者中。因为我从未收到任何人或组织要我在此公开信上签名的请求，我也未曾在此连署公开信上签过名。” 北京的江天勇律师也在二0一0年十月一日声明撤回此呼吁书上的签名，他在声明中表明自己退出的理由。他说：“我对部分人在呼吁授予刘晓波2010年诺贝尔和平奖的时候，总不忘贬损高智晟、胡佳、陈光诚的行为深表遗憾。当高智晟活不见人死不见尸、陈光诚一家遭凌虐至今、胡佳身患绝症仍深陷囹圄之际，我岂能与那些不依不挠踩他们的人同抬一乘轿子？” 这些不顾信誉盗用他人名字为刘晓波炒作和贬损其他入狱维权律师的行为，不但欺骗了诺贝尔委员会和西方世界，而且也毁坏了中国民运人士的名誉，进一步使刘晓波的形象恶化。我们希望，诺贝尔委员会会对此情况有所警觉。还有一个情况是，刘晓波因为侵权案子已被告上美国联邦法院，并于二0一0年八月三十日立案。（见链接http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new...v06444/367294/ ）这个案子使被告人刘晓波在中国异议人士中再次引发巨大争议，他被提名诺贝尔和平奖也遭到更多人的质疑。鉴于上述三个情况，我们提请诺委会慎重考虑我们的意见：刘晓波这样一个有极大争议性的人物已经不具备诺贝尔和平奖得主应有的道德形象和感召力。谢谢二0一0年十月五日签名人（按姓名拼音排列）：卞和祥 — 中共制度的政治反对派，中国社会民主党中央委员，美国守护者同盟主席，因追求中国自由民主、支持法轮功反迫害被中共列入黑名单。现住美国纽约。还学文 — 自由作家，因参与海外独立学者、学生组织，反对中共八九年大屠杀，九二年被中共政府吊销护照。现住在德国埃森。刘国华 — 中共制度的政治反对派，原中国东北大学副教授，美国守护者同盟副主席，现住美国纽约。刘晓东 — 自由撰稿人，笔名三妹，因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单。现住美国芝加哥。鲁德成 — 中共制度的政治反对派，因参加1989年天安门民主运动和蛋击毛像被判处有期徒刑16年，1998年获假释出狱。现住加拿大卡城。王胜林 — 中国异见人士，现任汇丰银行资深金融信息分析师，因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单。现住美国芝加哥。伍凡 — 中共制度的政治反对派，现任《中国事务》总编辑、中国独立笔会成员、中国自由文化运动协调委员会委员。1957年被当局内定右派份子，1968年被当局定为现行反革命份子判有期徒刑20年，劳改12年，于1979年11月释放，回中国安徽师范大学任教。现住美国加州洛杉矶。萧虹 — 自由撰稿人，现住丹麦。徐水良 — 中共制度的政治反对派，1973年开始投身中国民主运动，1975年至1979年，1981年5月至1991年5月，两度因参与和支持中国民主运动而入狱十多年。现住美国纽约。许毅 — 学者，现任教于英国伦敦大学学院。因在海外参与和支持中国民主运动被中共列入黑名单并多年被禁止回中国探亲。现住英国伦敦。袁红冰 — 自由作家，法学家，《中国自由文化运动》发起人，因参加1989年天安门民主运动遭中共当局秘密逮捕，被政治流放到中国偏远城市贵州，2004年在澳大利亚寻求政治避难。现居澳大利亚悉尼。张国亭 — 中共制度的政治反对派，网络工作者，1960年十六岁时即被捕劳改，后被定为“反革命罪”判无期徒刑，坐牢长达二十二年，于1982年出狱并逃亡丹麦。现住丹麦。仲维光 — 自由作家，因发表研究指出共产党思想及文化的问题，并发表文章批评中国共产党政府而被中共列入黑名单，九七年被吊销护照。现住德国埃森。联系人：刘晓东 Diane Xiaodong Liu Email: DianeLiu28@sbcglobal.net Tel: 312-733-8123 许毅 Yi Xu, Ph.D. Reader in Speech Science Department of Speech, Hearing and Phonetic Sciences University College London Chandler House 2 Wakefield Street London WC1N 1PF ＵK Cell: +44 07910 455 428. Tel: 020 7679 4082 (internal 24082) Fax: 020 7679 4238 email: yi@phon.ucl.ac.uk http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/yi/ 英文见下一页： ————————————————————————————- Second letter to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee from Overseas Chinese Concerned with Chinese Democracy To: Nobel Peace Prize Committee Date：October 4, 2010 Respected Nobel Prize Committee: We wrote to you in March this year to express our opinion that Mr. Liu Xiaobo is unsuitable as a candidate for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. Our reason is that as early as twenty years ago he collaborated with the totalitarian Chinese Communist Party (CCP) by making a speech on national TV denying CCP’s crime of murdering innocent students in Tiananmen Square. In January 12th, 2009, nearly one year after he was illegally detained, he made a statement entitled “I have no enemies——my final statement” during his trial in a Beijing court. In this statement, he glorified the CCP’s prison system, and praised the CCP for putting “respecting and protecting human rights” into the constitution, and describing it as “a sign that human rights have become one of the fundamental principles of Chinese law.” His open praise in the last twenty years for the CCP, which has never stopped trampling human rights, has been extremely misleading and influential. Through these deeds he has lost the moral image fit for a Nobel Peace Prize recipient. Additionally, we would like to inform you of a new development. That is, a letter entitled “Appeal for the Nobel Peace Prize for Liu Xiaobo” that someone recently sent to you has become a scandal, because the authors of the letter put all the names of a list in their possession on the letter as cosigners without their consent. In just a few days a number of people have issued statements on the Internet that their names had been used without their knowledge, and some of them did not even agree that Liu Xiaobo deserved the Prize. As far as we know, the following people have their names put on the letter without their consent: Yang Zi, Bei Ling, Deng Huanwu, Wang Zang, Liu Guokai, Xiong Yan，Zeng Dajun. Most unfortunately, Ms. Yang Zi, whose name was also unwittingly included, is the wife of the well-known dissident writer Wang Ruowang. Wang wrote a long article over ten years ago criticizing Liu Xiaobo’s collaboration with the CCP. However, nine years after his death, his wife’s name was used to support Liu Xiaobo. In her phone call to the web writer San Mei, Yang Zi expressed her disappointment for the un-consented use of other people’s names, and said that many more than the above-mentioned names were also used without consent. Mr. Bei Ling, whose name was also unwittingly included, is the Chinese translator of Vaclav Havel’s book. In his article “It is freedom, not laureate”, published on September 30, 2010, he said that “I was really unexpected to see myself as a cosigner of a letter with the title ‘Appeal for the Nobel Peace Prize for Liu Xiaobo’, because I had never received from any person or organization a request for my signature on the letter, and I have never signed my name on the letter.” Attorney Jiang Tianyong from Beijing also issued a statement on October 1, 2010 to withdraw his signature from the appeal letter. In his statement he explained his reason for the withdrawal: “I was deeply disappointed by those who always manage to defame Gao Zhisheng, Hu Jia and Chen Guangcheng when appealing for giving Liu Xiaobo the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. When even the life or death of Gao Zhisheng is still unknown, when the whole family of Chen Guangcheng is being persecuted even as of today, and when Hu Jia is being imprisoned despite incurable diseases, how can I blow the same horn as those who persistently try to put them down?” Such acts of using other people’s name without their consent and degrading other imprisoned lawyers is not only cheating the Nobel Prize Committee and the Western world, but also damaging the name of the Chinese dissidents, which makes the image of Liu Xiaobo even worse. We hope the Nobel Prize Committee will become aware of this situation. Finally, Mr. Liu Xiaobo has been sued in the US Federal Court in a civil rights case, which is filed on August 30, 2010 (see web link at http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new...v06444/367294/) This law suit has once again made Liu Xiaobo extremely controversial among Chinese dissidents. His nomination has also been questioned by more people. Based on the afore-mentioned three reasons, we urge the Nobel Committee to seriously consider our opinion, namely, as a highly controversial figure, Mr. Liu Xiaobo has lost the moral image fit for a Nobel Peace Prize recipient. Sincerely and respectfully yours, Co-signers: Bian Hexiang Anti-CCP activist. Member, Central Committee of Chinese Social Democratic Party; Chairman, The Coalition of Guards For American Values, Inc.; blacklisted by CCP for the pursuit of freedom and democracy in China and support for Fanlun Gong’s struggle against persecution. Now living in New York City, USA. Huan Xuewen Freelance writer. Passport invalidated by CCP in 1992 for joining overseas independent students and scholars organizations and opposing the 1989 massacre by CCP. Now living in Essen, Germany. Liu Guohua Anti-CCP activist, Former Associate Professor of Northeastern University, China. Vice Chairman, The Coalition of Guards For American Values, Inc. Now living in New York City, USA. Liu Xiaodong Freelance writer, Pen name: San Mei. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in Chicago, USA. Lu Decheng Anti-CCP activist. Sentenced to imprisonment for 15 years for participating in the 1989 Tiananmen pro-democracy movement and defacing Mao’s portrait on Tiananmen with paint-filled eggs; released on parole in 1998. Now living in Calgary, Canada. Wang Shenglin Chinese dissident, Senior Financial Information Analyst at HSBC. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in Chicago, USA. Wu Fan Anti-CCP activist. Chief Editor, China Affairs, member of Independent Chinese PEN Centre; member, Coordinating Committee of Chinese Liberal Culture Movement; labeled as a rightist by CCP in 1957, charged as a reactionary and sentenced to imprisonment for 20 years in 1968; served in labor camp for 12 years; released in November, 1979, and then taught in Anhui Teachers College, China. Now living in Los Angeles, USA. Xiao Hong Freelance writer. Now living in Denmark. Xiao Jing Manager, Broad Book USA. Rose against CCP for mother’s persecution by CCP for practicing Falun Gong; Canadian citizen. Now living in New York City, USA. Xu Shuiliang Anti-CCP activist. Devoted to Chinese pro-democracy movement from 1973; jailed twice from 1975-1979 and May 1981- May 1991 for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements. Now living in New York City, USA. Xu Yi Associate Professor at University College London, UK. Blacklisted by CCP for supporting and participating in Chinese pro-democracy movements, and denied passport renewal for many years. Now living in London, UK. Yuan Hongbing Freelance writer, jurist, founder of Chinese Liberal Culture Movement. Arrested by CCP for participating in the 1989 Tiananmen pro-democracy movement; exiled to Guizhou, China; sought political asylum in Australia in 2004. Now living in Sydney, Australia. Zhang Guoting Anti-CCP activist, Internet writer. Arrested and sentenced to labor camp in 1960 at age 16, subsequently sentenced to life imprisonment for reactionary crimes, served in prison for 22 years, released in 1982 and fled to Denmark. Now living in Denmark. Zhong Weiguang Freelance writer. Blacklisted by CCP for publications that point out the problems of Communism and Communist culture, and articles that criticize the CCP government; passport invalidated by CCP in 1997. Now living in Essen, Germany. Contact persons: Diane Xiaodong Liu Email: DianeLiu28@sbcglobal.net Tel: 312-733-8123 Yi Xu, Ph.D. Reader in Speech Science Department of Speech, Hearing and Phonetic Sciences University College London Chandler House 2 Wakefield Street London WC1N 1PF ＵK Cell: +44 07910 455 428. Tel: 020 7679 4082 (internal 24082) Fax: 020 7679 4238 email: yi@phon.ucl.ac.uk
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张三的四华枫首席感慨哥注册日期: Oct 2007 帖子: 1,233 积分:1 精华:1 声望: 1292688	刘晓波作为死磕的清流，明知结果，也要发表个《零八宪章》获刑11年，就这一点，已可做所有知识分子的行为典范。刘的政治观点可能欠妥，可能片面，但他用自己的行动来证明自己信念的坚定，足矣。如果按照共产党的观点，恐怕这个和平奖只有发给余秋雨之流才是最佳选择。
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宋祖德维稳办副秘书长注册日期: Dec 2006 帖子: 21,246 积分:17 精华:4 声望: 2147483647	我一直把刘的获奖看成是对所有民运有关活动的肯定和鼓励, 也包括反对刘获奖的人. 还是要把主要精力向前看, 注重合作.
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星手 Banned 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 4,952 声望: 533137	很好，看来诺贝尔还有点民主，那要是卖国贼共产党，谁上访是那是反中。而且LZ拿这个文章什么意思？难道他真愚蠢到，不知道任何事情都有人反对。加拿大总理每天都有人反对，难道就不是总理了吗？只能说LZ是无知无耻的畜生才这样。你可以不喜欢任何人，这个很正常，但LZ如果喜欢被卖国贼共产党不当人，他就是畜生了。世界有几十亿人，就那几个反对，看来诺贝尔还是很公平的，而且看到卖国贼共产党在中国也不敢报道，看来绝大多数人还是认可刘小波的。而且象LZ这样喜欢被共产党当畜生的，根本就反对无效，他就是急得跳死了都没用。
星手 Banned 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 4,952 声望: 533137