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印度巴基斯坦人 63 42.86%
日本人 8 5.44%
韩国人 6 4.08%
香港人台湾人 14 9.52%
中国人(大陆) 89 60.54%
黑人 12 8.16%
白人(除东欧以外的欧洲人, 美国,加拿大人,澳洲人等) 5 3.40%
白人(犹太人) 12 8.16%
白人(东欧人) 9 6.12%
中南美洲人 7 4.76%
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 21:43     #1
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给个豆,才投票。
你做生意吗? 得是有效票才能加豆阿.
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:07     #3
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:21     #4
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树等于噎死,英文这么差,怎么做生意?
到底是英文差还是中文差(今天的考试很失望ing)?
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:32     #5
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木文化
都不知道你在说啥, 前疯.
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:42     #6
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大水快来翻译一下,
BTW,你们村的扫盲班还有位子吗?
大水, 就帮 Never Field Goal 翻译这句好了.
树等于噎死
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:47     #7
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我想斯 sure=yes
瓦, 这位translator的水平真是了得!
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:49     #8
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应该是硕,而不是树.
大水好象是CBC,中文有点差的说.
中文差没关系, 懂得意思就行.
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 22:57     #9
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Not Freaking Gay ?
嗯, 可以上中级班了.
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 23:08     #10
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感觉这个投票的列项有种族歧视:
白人是什么?
黑人又代表什么?
为什么亚洲人要按国家分成日本、韩国、中国?典型的自己看不起自己。
怎么不统称一个黄皮肤或亚洲人?
抗议有效!
制片, 我都说了, 因为受十个选项的限制, 从原来的十五项减成了十项, 只好歧视一下谁谁谁了.
原来想按国家分的, 但国家里面有不同的种族. 真的很难分.
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旧 May 4th, 2006, 23:12     #11
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对溜,这种地球银都鸡盗的答案就不用再说一遍了吧。线白!
你还不快练球去, 早点争取零的突破.
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旧 May 5th, 2006, 19:58     #12
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现在是中国人(大陆)与印巴人领先, 两个加起来占了2/3.
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为什么生意难做泥?
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旧 May 18th, 2006, 22:00     #14
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这个世界上有好做的生意么?从别人的口袋里掏钱,当然有难度滴。
我是问为什么中国人印度人的生意难做? 好象也不都是经济的原因.
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旧 May 23rd, 2006, 21:54     #15
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中国人在国内的时候被奸商整怕了,买东西的时候习惯性的乱砍价,上来先砍你个一半,砍不了一半那就能砍多少砍多少.

加拿大经商哪有那么高的利润空间啊,但大家习惯了砍价,不砍不舒服.

价格砍不下来那就送东西或送服务给我,总之是能沾什么便宜就沾.

这和心态也有关,中国人以勤俭,节约,精明闻名,加上初来乍...
同感!
中国产品的质量上不去, 很大部分原因是同胞'便宜还要再便宜'的习惯, 产家为减低成本甚至努力偷工减料, 粗制滥造, 中国明明有好东西, 可是出国来的质量不乐观. 另一方面, 中国商家不讲商业道德, 在商业竞争中, 就想着你死我活, 靠恶性压价企图来打败对手, 而不是靠质量,服务来经营.

最近华人超市之间的远低于进价的"促销"活动, 同胞之间的自相残杀可见一斑.
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前些天在ALDO 看好一皮包,让服务员拿一新的,结果被告知最后一个了。俺就对她说,既然是样品,就打个折把。她说,不大折。俺接着提醒她说,问问你老板。她恍然大悟,把经理叫来,结果经理跟俺说,对不起,不打折。

瞧瞧,西人真不会做生意。
剩下最后一个打折的原因可能有:
1. 有暇痴或着有点赃了.
2. 季节快过了, 店家想清货.
3. 滞销产品.
4. 断码产品, 特别是鞋子.

...

剩下最后一个不打折的原因可能有:
1. 新款或者热销产品, 不打折也有别人买.
2. 不打折政策. 给这个顾客打折, 不给那个顾客打折, 不公平.(店里有统一的打折政策).
3. 顾客有受到平等对待的感觉.
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大家补充...
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我不是做生意的,所以不知道为什么你(还有其他选这个选项的人)觉得中国人印度人的生意难做。谈一点自己的想法,不当之处请见谅。印度人不了解,就谈谈中国人吧。

中国人的生意难做么?我觉得看是谁来做。中国人做中国人的生意,难度上可能大于老外。为什么呢?不全是顾客的原因,这个现象很大程度上是商家造成的。

首先,中国人做生意比老外“灵活”,就是说很多规矩不是死的,比如价格,定价是一回事,折扣是一回事,讨价还价是另一回事。中国的顾客对中国商家这个情况很了解,能节省的时候谁又愿意多花钱呢?如果商家定死规矩,标多少钱就卖多少钱,顾客也不会死缠烂打。如果商家自己在价格上玩花样,就不能怪顾客想方设法争取自己的利益了,想想看,如果你知道有人在某个店里只花100元就买到了标价200元的商品,你会肯拿高于100的价格去买么?当然,大多数时候顾客并不知道商家的标价的虚实,但就是因为大多数中国生意人有这个习惯,所以顾客也有了砍价的习惯。站在顾客的角度来说,这没什么不对的,谁都想用最少的付出得到最大的回报,并不是顾客存心要找商家的麻烦。

其次,中国的顾客对中国的商家比较有戒心。这有一部分是国内生活经历的原因。造假,以次充好,售后服务差,买的时候好话说尽,退货的时候千难万难。。。别国的商人怎么样,毕竟没有亲身经历过,但是中国商家的手段,可没少领教啊,所以这个信任就很难做到。虽然到了加拿大换了环境,但对中国商人的印象是不会有根本改观的。有了这个前提,生意当然就不好做,因为你自己是怎么样的为人,是怎么样做生意,没有一定的时间是看不出来的,对于新上门的顾客,又怎么能要求人家一开始就信任你呢?所以要慢慢来。可是很多中国生意人太急功近利,生意做不成,不想办法改善经营,只知道挑顾客的毛病,又怎么会解决问题呢?只会让大家对这样的生意人印象更差,如此就会形成恶性循环。

再者,中国生意人喜欢搞低价竞争,这不是做生意的正途。做生意是为了赚钱,虽然我说这样如同从别人的口袋掏钱,但手段高明的商家,会让顾客花钱花的高兴,掏钱掏的心甘情愿。做生意都有成本,价格太低,又要保证利益,肯定会有降低商品服务质量的行为,这样做,可能短期内会赚到钱,但长远看来,无异于饮鸩止渴。很多中国商人并不是把生意当成事业来做,甚至很多从一开始就没打算做长久,许多弊端由此产生。
有道理! 加豆!

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最后,千万不要对顾客讲什么做生意不容易之类的话,因为顾客的钱也不是容易来的,这么说只会让顾客更小心自己的钱包。这个世界上,没有容易做的生意,但是再难做的生意,也一样有人做的成,做的好。讨论哪种顾客难对付没有任何实际意义,虽然投票中显示大多数人认为中国人生意难做,可是,这里做生意的,不会有人因为这个原因说从此不做中国人的生意了吧。

做不做生意,是自己选的路,有再多的困难,想办法克服就是了。实在做不下去,也别勉强,有人天生是做生意的材料,有人就不是,生活有很多种过法,选个适合自己的就好了(说着说着就要跑题了,赶紧刹住 )
部分有道理. 讲做生意容易不容易只是一个相对的概念, 投票的结果"中国人印度人生意难做"是一种现象, 是客观事实, 不是想象. 偏见或者歧视出来的.

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