听到多大博士在读生的发音依然如此糟糕，我心里很痛心 - 第2页

Cool_China · Apr 7th, 2005, 20:29

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作者: rabbitjessy

This morning ,on my way to office , I heard that DJ in the radio to discuss "Accent". Through his interview to many ppl , nowadays speaking English with accent is widely accept by this society now. Some men even mentioned that woman who speak English with accent sound very sexy and charming .

Hi, Jessy,

If you don't care your pronunciation, just disregard my posting. On the course of my studies I've summarized some pitfalls our Chinese always make on English pronuncation.Techniques I've developed to deal with those errors prove really helpful, but it doesn't work for people who are not interested in improving their pronunciation.

Plus, pronunciation is not equal to the accent,e.g., US president speaks a typical Texas accent.

Best.,

Cool_China · Apr 7th, 2005, 20:32

If you are confident with the pronunciation of the following 2 words, I am sure that your pronunciation is in a higher level.

1)cool
2)China

Seems easy, but NOT.

Have fun , folks!

Cool_China · Apr 7th, 2005, 20:41

I am pretty sure that we Chinese can pronounce 90% of English words correctly, so don't give up yourself by 'being able to communicate is enough'.

无风絮自飞 · Apr 7th, 2005, 21:27

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作者: 六里台

多大博士在读生英语发音如何糟糕都不要紧，楼主中文都如此糟糕实在是...

乌鸦落在猪身上，就看见别人黑！

他是和中央电视台前著名节目主持人倪萍学的中文，很标准

如：“这次联欢会突出了联欢的主题“ （新东方老罗发现的）

英语说的再标准，不也是要攥同胞的钱么？

corespeed · Apr 7th, 2005, 23:40

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作者: 无风絮自飞

他是和中央电视台前著名节目主持人倪萍学的中文，很标准

如：“这次联欢会突出了联欢的主题“ （新东方老罗发现的）

英语说的再标准，不也是要攥同胞的钱么？

funny,It doesn't make sense.

spring leon · Apr 8th, 2005, 22:09

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作者: 无风絮自飞

英语说的再标准，不也是要攥同胞的钱么？

What's wrong with "攥同胞的钱"? Don't you think he/she should get pay by teaching English? As long as you benefit from his technics you shouldn't take it for granted and DON'T MAKE IT HABIT!

giraffe · Apr 8th, 2005, 22:24

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作者: labour in Ca

Do u know what? russian ladies are very attracted to western guys

Do u know that too? Chinese ladies are very attractive to all the races.

yoyozj · Apr 8th, 2005, 23:31

Hi! cool_china,

Comparing to syntax, accent doesn't matter that much in communication. If you could speak'correct' English, using the right words, phrases, structures..even if your pronunciation is not perfect, your English is accecptible, that is your personal style. The problem for our Chinese folks' English, is not accents, but verbal and syntax.

To tell you the truth, I feel your English writing is not natural, sound bizarre. So I really doubt you are in a good positon to instruct Ph.D of UT.
English is our second language, believe in life-long learning.buddy.

无风絮自飞 · Apr 9th, 2005, 00:37

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作者: spring leon

What's wrong with "攥同胞的钱"? Don't you think he/she should get pay by teaching English? As long as you benefit from his technics you shouldn't take it for granted and DON'T MAKE IT HABIT!

这种机会还是您独享吧。"As long as you benefit from his technics，" when you benefit from his technics, share your successful story with us, cheer.

Cool_China · Apr 9th, 2005, 01:01

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作者: yoyozj

Hi! cool_china,

Comparing to syntax, accent doesn't matter that much in communication. If you could speak'correct' English, using the right words, phrases, structures..even if your pronunciation is not perfect, your English is accecptible, that is your personal style. The problem for our Chinese folks' English, is not accents, but verbal and syntax.

To tell you the truth, I feel your English writing is not natural, sound bizarre. So I really doubt you are in a good positon to instruct Ph.D of UT.
English is our second language, believe in life-long learning.buddy.

Yoyoz,

A PH.D candidate of the U of T can instruct me for many things. But I do think some of them should improve their pronunciation. And believe it or not I know a person who speaks quite fluent English. You won't believe that he lives here for only 5 years.

Cool_China · Apr 9th, 2005, 01:10

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作者: 无风絮自飞

这种机会还是您独享吧。"As long as you benefit from his technics，" when you benefit from his technics, share your successful story with us, cheer.

If you do care money, let's time a free session.
Best.,

vangeo · Apr 9th, 2005, 03:27

俺不会英语，就不用英语了，不过我觉得，口音对一个成年的外国人来说，不是交流中最主要的，主要还是有效的表达，特别是作为理工科的PH.D学生来说，研究和写作的能力远远比发音/口音重要，我见过一些在专业领域非常优秀的印度人，口音比中国人重得很，但丝毫没有减弱他们的交流能力。同意上面有位说的，词汇和语法相对重要，特别是对Ph.D.来说，logicality和got the point是presentation中最最重要的。
可怜这位弟兄，遭遇到这么多人的围攻，如果是我，可能都有suicide的想法。

无风絮自飞 · Apr 9th, 2005, 08:54

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作者: Cool_China

If you do care money, let's time a free session.
Best.,

I care money, so I participated part time English course in Seneca College,
the assessment $30, and 3 months course $164. If after 3 months I do not feel any progress, contact with you maybe a choice. thanks.

Cool_China · Apr 9th, 2005, 08:59

1) Can VS cannot (emphasize on ‘t’)
2) Couldn’t
3) Book VS Luke e.g. book, look, cook
4) (Keep and need), sweet, feed VS fade e.g. key vs ‘K’, a sheet of paper VS boshit
5) Bit VS bait. E.g. river; English
6) Pass VS bother e.g. gather and Micro VS Macro
7) Cool (Ku:l), and school, nofrill. Also, compared ‘oo’ in ‘cool’ to that in ‘book’ (buk)
8) Love ('L)
9) Think VS kitchen sink; e.g. there and brother, father (bite your tongue, please J)
Think VS this, that, these, those. Cloth VS clothe (open syllable, and close syllable)
10) New York and word
11) World
12) China and media VS idea
13) Strategy ‘te’, ‘gy’; Toronto; city; university; water
14) Bike VS back
15) My mind
16) Good
17) Perfect, prefer ‘c’ and ‘pre’ in the second word
18) Excuse me
19) Because (Canadian variance)
20) My --- Micro
21) +S, nasal and non-nasal relation, e.g. maps, cooks, and bags , computers.
Plus, ‘stressed’ vs ‘bagged’

Drills:
I can do it

I cannoT do it !!! J

I couldn’t find it
Beet, bit, bait, bet, bat, but
Toronto, tomato, potato
City, twenty, pity, ability
University of Toronto is near College Street; union: onion: opinion
I love this cat
I say she says…
Thanks, I think that’s a very good idea
I will help you make a big difference
One coin, one corn
Why do English-speaking people have much more facial expression when they talk？ You might think they are too emotional. But, related to the nature of English pronunciation. Comparing Chinese to English.
Vowels, including a, e, i, o, u must be stressed, plus dip
Consonants: keep in mind ‘d’, ‘t’, ‘k’, ’p’, ‘g’,’m’, and ‘n’ at the end of word. E.g. bag, back, green, column. One coin, one corn. Aime;bime,cime, dime,fime;hime; (substitute p, t, k, g for m)

freebull · Apr 9th, 2005, 11:04

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作者: Cool_China

1) Can VS cannot (emphasize on ‘t’)
2) Couldn’t
3) Book VS Luke e.g. book, look, cook
4) (Keep and need), sweet, feed VS fade e.g. key vs ‘K’, a sheet of paper VS boshit
5) Bit VS bait. E.g. river; English
6) Pass VS bother e.g. gather and Micro VS Macro
7) Cool (Ku:l), and school, nofrill. Also, compared ‘oo’ in ‘cool’ to that in ‘book’ (buk)
8) Love ('L)
9) Think VS kitchen sink; e.g. there and brother, father (bite your tongue, please J)
Think VS this, that, these, those. Cloth VS clothe (open syllable, and close syllable)
10) New York and word
11) World
12) China and media VS idea
13) Strategy ‘te’, ‘gy’; Toronto; city; university; water
14) Bike VS back
15) My mind
16) Good
17) Perfect, prefer ‘c’ and ‘pre’ in the second word
18) Excuse me
19) Because (Canadian variance)
20) My --- Micro
21) +S, nasal and non-nasal relation, e.g. maps, cooks, and bags , computers.
Plus, ‘stressed’ vs ‘bagged’

Drills:
I can do it

I cannoT do it !!! J

I couldn’t find it
Beet, bit, bait, bet, bat, but
Toronto, tomato, potato
City, twenty, pity, ability
University of Toronto is near College Street; union: onion: opinion
I love this cat
I say she says…
Thanks, I think that’s a very good idea
I will help you make a big difference
One coin, one corn
Why do English-speaking people have much more facial expression when they talk？ You might think they are too emotional. But, related to the nature of English pronunciation. Comparing Chinese to English.
Vowels, including a, e, i, o, u must be stressed, plus dip
Consonants: keep in mind ‘d’, ‘t’, ‘k’, ’p’, ‘g’,’m’, and ‘n’ at the end of word. E.g. bag, back, green, column. One coin, one corn. Aime;bime,cime, dime,fime;hime; (substitute p, t, k, g for m)

hey, you do have a professional attitude. You deserve applause for what you do, keep working on!

sunvv · Apr 9th, 2005, 11:22

楼主，可不可以告诉我类似50、60、70应该怎么发音呢？

couple · Apr 9th, 2005, 14:02

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作者: 无风絮自飞

英语说的再标准，不也是要攥同胞的钱么？

Why not?

有市场需求，就有挣钱机会，谁跟钱有仇？是同胞的钱就不能赚？什么观念？种族歧视？那中国的航空公司、商店、饭馆......不都是在赚同胞的钱吗？狭隘！

CWO

chinashqchen · Apr 9th, 2005, 15:51

这位老兄要没有一点发音的水平，没点自信，敢到这来发消息吗？没金钢钻，怎敢揽瓷活。支持这位老兄！

Cool_China · Apr 9th, 2005, 18:47

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作者: sunvv

楼主，可不可以告诉我类似50、60、70应该怎么发音呢？

talk to you later.
Best.,

giraffe · Apr 9th, 2005, 19:03

Why don't you give a free seminar for one or two hours, that way who ever are interested can give a try.

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Cool_China Senior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 520 声望: 69	just try two words If you are confident with the pronunciation of the following 2 words, I am sure that your pronunciation is in a higher level. 1)cool 2)China Seems easy, but NOT. Have fun , folks! 此帖于 Apr 9th, 2005 01:10 被 Cool_China 编辑。
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Cool_China Senior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 520 声望: 69	Again I am pretty sure that we Chinese can pronounce 90% of English words correctly, so don't give up yourself by 'being able to communicate is enough'. 此帖于 Apr 9th, 2005 01:11 被 Cool_China 编辑。
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yoyozj Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 21 声望: 0	accent V.S. syntax Hi! cool_china, Comparing to syntax, accent doesn't matter that much in communication. If you could speak'correct' English, using the right words, phrases, structures..even if your pronunciation is not perfect, your English is accecptible, that is your personal style. The problem for our Chinese folks' English, is not accents, but verbal and syntax. To tell you the truth, I feel your English writing is not natural, sound bizarre. So I really doubt you are in a good positon to instruct Ph.D of UT. English is our second language, believe in life-long learning.buddy.
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vangeo Junior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 26 声望: 10	俺不会英语，就不用英语了，不过我觉得，口音对一个成年的外国人来说，不是交流中最主要的，主要还是有效的表达，特别是作为理工科的PH.D学生来说，研究和写作的能力远远比发音/口音重要，我见过一些在专业领域非常优秀的印度人，口音比中国人重得很，但丝毫没有减弱他们的交流能力。同意上面有位说的，词汇和语法相对重要，特别是对Ph.D.来说，logicality和got the point是presentation中最最重要的。可怜这位弟兄，遭遇到这么多人的围攻，如果是我，可能都有suicide的想法。
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Cool_China Senior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 帖子: 520 声望: 69	for practice 1) Can VS cannot (emphasize on ‘t’) 2) Couldn’t 3) Book VS Luke e.g. book, look, cook 4) (Keep and need), sweet, feed VS fade e.g. key vs ‘K’, a sheet of paper VS boshit 5) Bit VS bait. E.g. river; English 6) Pass VS bother e.g. gather and Micro VS Macro 7) Cool (Ku:l), and school, nofrill. Also, compared ‘oo’ in ‘cool’ to that in ‘book’ (buk) 8) Love ('L) 9) Think VS kitchen sink; e.g. there and brother, father (bite your tongue, please J) Think VS this, that, these, those. Cloth VS clothe (open syllable, and close syllable) 10) New York and word 11) World 12) China and media VS idea 13) Strategy ‘te’, ‘gy’; Toronto; city; university; water 14) Bike VS back 15) My mind 16) Good 17) Perfect, prefer ‘c’ and ‘pre’ in the second word 18) Excuse me 19) Because (Canadian variance) 20) My --- Micro 21) +S, nasal and non-nasal relation, e.g. maps, cooks, and bags , computers. Plus, ‘stressed’ vs ‘bagged’ Drills: I can do it I cannoT do it !!! J I couldn’t find it Beet, bit, bait, bet, bat, but Toronto, tomato, potato City, twenty, pity, ability University of Toronto is near College Street; union: onion: opinion I love this cat I say she says… Thanks, I think that’s a very good idea I will help you make a big difference One coin, one corn Why do English-speaking people have much more facial expression when they talk？ You might think they are too emotional. But, related to the nature of English pronunciation. Comparing Chinese to English. Vowels, including a, e, i, o, u must be stressed, plus dip Consonants: keep in mind ‘d’, ‘t’, ‘k’, ’p’, ‘g’,’m’, and ‘n’ at the end of word. E.g. bag, back, green, column. One coin, one corn. Aime;bime,cime, dime,fime;hime; (substitute p, t, k, g for m)
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sunvv Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 4,504 声望: 1149627	楼主，可不可以告诉我类似50、60、70应该怎么发音呢？

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chinashqchen Junior Member 注册日期: Feb 2005 帖子: 6 声望: 10	这位老兄要没有一点发音的水平，没点自信，敢到这来发消息吗？没金钢钻，怎敢揽瓷活。支持这位老兄！
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giraffe Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1,364 积分:28 精华:8 声望: 107468161	Why don't you give a free seminar for one or two hours, that way who ever are interested can give a try.