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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 11:24     #1
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Angry 非常烦恼-老人非要移民到加拿大,请大家给个建议

最近非常烦恼,老人最近吵着闹着非要移民加拿大,我都不知道加拿大有什么好.

很多人都回流了,老人也不知道怎么了非要呆在加拿大,在国内也不是很差,有房有退休工作生活的很舒服,搞不明白为何要移民.说是多挣点钱,但没有身份打黑工也挣不多多数,而且又辛苦,搞不好累出病来得不偿失.

也搞不明白为何要那么拼命挣钱,国内生活的挺好,也够花,如果说缺钱也可以和我们讲,我们也可以寄.但他说不缺钱,但为何又来了说挣钱?

唉!非常烦恼,本来是过来探亲,是件高兴的事但现在变成这样,现在他每天都是要么上网看如何移民的信息,要么四处找人问如何留下来.已经到了疯狂的状态,逢人就问如何留下来,知道目前办理父母移民非常困难,要回国等几年后现在改变想法,想要申请难民,听有人说难民可以不用回去办理.想以FLG,或宗教理由办理,我都快气死了,大家都非常讨厌这种做法,他没有到了非要留在加拿大的地步,做这种令人讨厌的事.

现在也不知道怎么办好,目前担心签证到期后他黑下来或申请难民,老人不是自己的孩子,你可以强迫他,大家都说尊重老人我也不想太过分,但如果真的黑下来后果不堪设想,没有身份如果得了病我有再多的钱也不够.和他讲这些道理他听不进去,说自己身体很好不可能生病,这怎么可能,毕竟是老人了谁能保证不生病?

好烦啊~

大家帮忙出出注意,谢谢了!
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:25     #2
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简单。顺从他的意思,帮他填表递申请,然后让他回国等。成不成天知道。真要等个十年八年的话,他自己就熬不住了。你就交了个申请费,花钱免烦恼。

现在是他不想回去办理申请了,因为知道要等很久,所以想呆在这要么黑下来要么申请难民-这样可以不用回国等.

这次是我最烦的,如果他同意回国办理移民我就没有这么烦了!
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:27     #3
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这请神容易送神难,自古就是这样的嘛。你家老人也是够特别的,可能不想回国怕孤独,想和孙子待在一起。

压根就不是,他根本谁都不想,就是想自己在北美!

什么孩子,孙子都和他没有关系,他想的都是自己.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:28     #4
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让他到咱们的"移民 探亲 团聚 入籍 签证 "坛子上看以往讨论,不懂得他自己发帖子,然后他就会死了这条心了。

或者直接咨询一些中介。

不过当心他想当“难民”的心思,如果真想走这条路,就让他试好了,如果能下来,也了了他心愿了。主要是不让他黑下来才是重要的。

话说回来:为什么你...

唉~!怎么大家都看不明白我的意思,我不是不同意给他办合法的,问题是现在他在加拿大不想回去等合法手续,那样太久了,他想来了就不走了,所以才想黑下来或难民!
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:44     #5
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如果是这样自私,将来看病就不给他出钱,你不签字,医院是不会找你要的。父母跟子女是独立的。

要不就你自己通知cic,他们会派人帮你把人请走,以后加拿大也不会让他来了。

唉,我当然也知道可以通知移民局来抓人,毕竟他不是外人,自己家人怎么忍心这么做啊.


他现在已经走火入魔了,你和他说黑下来被抓怎么办,他说那么多人黑下来都没有事.

你说生病怎么办,他说我身体现在非常好,不会的.

你能说什么?
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:57     #6
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慢慢疏导,不宜操之过急。人越老就越固执,对不起,我不是骂你的老人,是普遍原理。

谢谢,我明白你是好心.

赶紧也不是别人误导,认为绝大因素是虚荣心.这个就很难说服了.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 12:59     #7
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你问他为什么要干违法的事?什么不考虑因为违法而影响你,影响你们家别的亲人?

他已经走火入魔了,问他这个也没有用,老人不是孩子可以教育,他的价值观什么都定型了,你说违法他是那么多人都黑下来为什么他不行?或者是难民算是合法吧?
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:01     #8
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实在要移民,就给他们办吧。不过一定不能黑,黑了影响你的信誉。一切依法办理就是了。

电工你怎么还没有看清楚我的帖子,如果通知正常手续我肯定给他办,根本不用这么烦.

问题是-他也知道现在办理团聚非常困难,要等最少5年,他不愿意回国等,想就呆在加拿大了看有什么办法在加拿大这里就可以办移民.

按这种想法只有难民了.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:07     #9
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FLG 难民,99%的成功率.

如果他真要用这个申请难民,我想和他断绝关系算了.

又不是真的在国内呆不下去,真的被迫害,就是因为自己的虚荣心做这种事,丢不起那人.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:09     #10
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他们这么搞,影响你的信誉他们不管吗?还有让你配偶的父母没有办法申请探亲。他们不为你考虑吗?这个老人的受教育程度很成问题哦!

他已经进入"忘我"的地步了,很难考虑到其他人
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:28     #11
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LZ说的这个老人似乎让偶想起来一个rolia还是这里说过的“自私公公”

如果是同一个人,建议楼主直接报移民局就是了。别的不要想太多

是吗?看来我还不是惟一的一个.

唉-搞不懂国内现在发展的也不错了,很多老外和这的华人都去中国,还有反过来的.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:30     #12
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这真是轮子的话,非常麻烦,没有见以前国内反对轮子的时候,那些受害人搞得妻离子散两口子不合甚至整出人命的恐怖事情吗?依我之见,必须把轮子扼杀在摇篮里,他们中南海都敢围,白宫都敢撒泼,还在乎你这小小的家庭吗?

不过嘛,凡是要孝顺,他们想怎么折腾你都得护着,谁让这里没有中国政府那样的“法轮功蒙蔽人员强制...

这个我就不清楚了,也不知道加拿大这里是怎么判断.

如果说光是评护照这点,可以说我是被强迫签的.

轮子也没有一个想入党证明的东西,能够说明什么时候加入的,况且也可以说到这才信的.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:34     #13
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真汉子!!有骨气!!!

别拿我开玩笑了,现在烦的要命.每天都是这事,讲道理讲不通,也迸能硬来,不知道该怎么办好.
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旧 Jun 14th, 2006, 13:37     #14
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你这位老人老伴还在么?是不是在国内太孤独了,怕再回去一个人过?

没有伴了,但我敢肯定不是因为孤独,国内还有亲戚在,到了这里应该比国内更寂寞.

大家都是在加拿大呆了几年的人,英文不会说,哪哪都不认识,能比国内好?

国内起码还有很多朋友什么的,这哪啊.
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你怎么能确定这个想法呢?

唉,平时大家言谈中可以感觉的出来,而且以前我说回国探亲看看他,他第一反映就是"你回来干什么,我现在是要去加拿大."
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这个还是怕孤独。没有配偶,没有直系儿孙,谁愿意回中国?
我说想回国发展这样也能在身边,他坚决反对,说要过来团聚,你说他是想我了吗?!
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让她自己在这里算了,或者假结婚,也比FLG好。
假结婚需要不少钱那!
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在这能天天看到自己最亲的人(子孙),在国内固然有朋友,可哪有子孙亲啊!!!这种状况跟身外之物毫无关系!千万不能忽视了老人的心理问题..老人最怕孤独(不是有了亲戚朋友就算有人关心了).吃好喝好根本不是问题,有时老人为了看儿孙一眼哪怕遭多大罪也心甘情愿,更何况能天天跟儿孙呆一起说说笑笑了..

如果真是这么想的,我就不这么烦了.

如果他真的这么想子女也不会想不顾后果的黑下来了.黑下来我的信誉在政府那没有了,他如果生病什么的怎么办?
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没有觉得搂住一直回避一个问题,对方是不是她的亲生父母,那个老人是男是女?如果哪个老人是搂主的婆婆的话,儿子在这里,有没有老伴,我看还不如留在这里好。像我妈妈就是个最怕寂寞的人,让她孤独一辈子,还不如让她死呢。如果老人年纪不是很大,可以打打黑工,混口饭吃是没问题的,何况有儿子在这里。
估计搂住是个女的...

不是的,是男的.这没有什么关系吧.我300%肯定不是寂寞.我上面的帖子都说,去年想回国发展,这样也可以和他在一起,但他不同意,原因就是要过来.

你说他能是因为寂寞吗?!如果是真的想子女我回去就解决了,为什么他非要留在加拿大.

回国有什么不好的?生活也不比这差.
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我觉得不是,你没看,TA说话的立场都是站在TA自己一边的么?
很多人都是子女要给老人办移民,老人都拿不定主意,或者不要过来。LZ恰恰相反。
TA还回避一个很重要的问题,老人在国内到底有些啥样的亲戚?是直系的,有几个?

我说了办理合法手续的移民我没有意见,花点钱就是了.现在的问题是他现在来了加拿大就不想回国办理申请了,这点我就不明白了,为什么非要走难民和FLG这些非法途径.

他在国内也有直系亲属啊,好几个.
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