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旧 Jun 27th, 2006, 08:12   只看该作者   #41
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有个朋友要换屋顶了,他说他打算不扒掉旧的毛毡,而是直接在旧毛毡上打上新毛毡,这样屋顶就是两层毛毡了,这个主意怎么样?我一时说不上自己的看法,大家觉得呢?
而且, 不揭掉旧的shingle, 那如果下面的plywood有潮湿或烂掉的部分就无从被发现和被换掉了. 后患无穷.

就象前面bank说的自己换房顶的经历. Roofing公司就是在揭掉旧shingle以后才发现plywood不行了的.
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旧 Jun 27th, 2006, 09:38   只看该作者   #42
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谢谢Bayraf ,信息非常有用。
HOME DEPOT 给我报了价,$5700,包括去掉旧ROOF LAYERS,运走垃圾,铺25年SHINGLE,换5个VENT。换PLYWOOD另外计算。
HSK,请查你的PM。
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旧 Jun 27th, 2006, 17:54   只看该作者   #43
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HSK,请查你的PM。
谢谢你的提醒,到时候我会注意。
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旧 Jun 28th, 2006, 18:37   只看该作者   #44
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问个问题,如果自己换屋顶的话,一旦发生漏水损坏天花板,保险公司还赔吗?我以前好象有个朋友吃过这个亏,保险公司因为你是自己换的,没有专业保证,所以不赔。

问问高手,自己换会不会有这样的情况呢?
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 08:09   只看该作者   #45
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我给他发的不是电话号码. 是我这些日子以来为了换我家的房顶而跟几家roofing公司打交道的情况以及他们的报价情况什么的. 只是希望对他能有帮助.
能EMAIL 我吗? 因为我的PM 不能用. shi_bob@hotmail.com

多谢!
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 08:31   只看该作者   #46
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怎么那么多人换房顶?都住破房子?

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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 08:45   只看该作者   #47
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干脆把我先后给HSK的PM都放这里吧.

第一个PM

HSK, 我也正换屋顶. 我先后找了四家公司来estimate. 价钱真是千差万别! 它们分别是: $2800, $3700, $4000, 和$9250.

$3700的那个是Home Depot的报价. 包括: 用BP的Organic的Shingle, 3 feet宽的ice and water shield, 房顶上三个通风盖及一个washroom通风口换新的. 这个价格不包括drip edge, underlayment以及可能的plywood的更换. 25年shingle warranty和5年labor warranty.

$4000的那个是我邻居介绍的一家西班牙人的roofing公司. 他们的报价包括用IKO的Organic的Shingle, 全房顶的underlayment, 1 feet宽的ice and water shield, drip edge. 25年shingle warranty和10年labor warranty.

$9250的那个是Direct Energy的报价. 包括用GAF的玻璃纤维的Shingle及全房顶的underlayment, 1 feet shield, drip edge, 更换通风口及两块可能的plywood. Lifetime shingle and labor warranty. 但这家被Home Depot斥为根本不make sense.

$2800那家也是我邻居介绍的一家鬼佬公司. 他家的房顶一年前就是这家给做的. 他的报价包括IKO的Organic的shlingle, 全屋顶的underlayment, 3 feet 宽的shield, drip edge, 全新的通风口等. 25年shingle warranty和7年labor warranty. 连Home Depot也说做为local的屋顶公司, 这个价位是resonable的.

昨天我们这里的一家邻居在铺房顶. 是一家local的roofing公司做的. 我问了. 是$4200. 我看见他们没铺underlayment, 就直接在plywood上钉的shingle. 还那么贵!

当然你的房子跟我的房子不一样. 不同的房型, 不同的尺寸价格当然又不会一样了. 以上信息希望对你有用.

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HSK,那些roofing公司来给你报价的时候,别忘记问他们:他们钉shingle的时候是用Nail gun来钉,还是用Staple gun来钉。

Staple的holding power远不如nail,因为第一,staple在钉的时候很容易crimp,第二,钉帽hold roof deck的面积要比staple hold的的大。所以用staple钉的shingle更容易被blow off。

其实连nail gun都不是最好的钉shingle的方法。最好的方法是用锤子手工钉,外加胶粘。因为手工钉用的是圆形钉帽的钉子,能hold更大面积的roof deck。而nail gun所用的钉子是t-shaped的,hold面积小。而且手工钉知道钉的深浅,不象nail gun容易钉得太深,损坏single,降低holding power。

不过roofing公司是不大可能给你手工钉shingle的,除非你double pay他们,因为那很耗时的。

但是nail gun是必须要他们做到的!

一定要请用nail gun,而不是用staple gun的roofing公司来铺你的房顶。

还记得我跟你提起的前几天我看到我们这个区有一家花$4200在铺房顶的吗?他们铺的时候我就在下面看了很长的时间。我亲眼看见他们没铺underlayment,而且我亲眼看见他们用的是staple gun在钉。

是我一直在下面看,房主却只是完工的时候才出来。$4200就这样被那个roofing公司给糊弄走了!
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 09:56   只看该作者   #48
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bayraf, 能把2800的那家公司电话发给我吗?先谢过了.
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 10:11   只看该作者   #49
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默认 bayraf, 能把2800的那家公司电话发给我吗?Thanks, Home depot give me quote for $4400.

bayraf, 能把2800的那家公司电话发给我吗?Thanks, Home depot give me quote for $4400. The other two companies offered $3970 and $4700.
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 10:51   只看该作者   #50
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If a new roof can last 20 - 25 years, that means on average 4% - 5% houses change roof every year.
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 11:11   只看该作者   #51
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我最终并没有找$2800那家。

因为第一,那是一家鬼佬的建筑公司,几个人私下干roofing。这也是他们报价比较便宜的原因。第二,他们用staple gun,第三,在跟他们交往过程中发现他们很不讲信用,经常是打电话不回。这样的话,我怎能指望他们那7年的warranty呢?

给HSK发那PM之后我又找了两家roofing公司,一家是中国人的,一家是鬼佬的。这两家都是我在我家附近看到他们在给别人家换房顶时认识的。中国人报价$2900,鬼佬报价$3200。

我最终选择了鬼佬公司。

因为看了他们做的房顶,看了他们的工具,跟他们打交道时也觉得他们很专业。而且那家中国人房顶公司的老板也不经意地流露出他对那家鬼佬公司很熟,他们的活儿很好。

他们只差$300块钱。包括的内容都是一样的,比如,IKO的shingle,全房顶的underlayment,3 feet的ice and water shield,换4个roof vent,以及10年labour warranty等等。
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 11:26   只看该作者   #52
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Bayraf, can you give me the phone number of the roofing company you finally choose? I am planning to do the roofing in the end of th is month.

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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 11:29   只看该作者   #53
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Bayraf, can you give me the phone number of the roofing company you finally choose? I am planning to do the roofing in the end of th is month.

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ALPINE Roofing: 416-469-1939
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Thank you Bayraf, will contact with them.
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旧 Jul 13th, 2006, 16:58   只看该作者   #55
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wwaynes, 记得ALPINE的人来给你estimate的时候, 他们给你报完价不要当时答应他们, 就跟他们说你在shopping around, 明天还有另一家公司来报价云云.

他们报价后的第二天会给你打电话. 这时是你讲价的好机会!

他们其实当初给我报的是$3400, 我当时没答应他们. 转天他们打来电话, 我说几家公司都给我报了价, 如果你们能便宜些我就让你们做(其实我心里早已决定让他们做了). 他们经过商量, 答应便宜$200.
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经历告诉我, 西人的公司不要还价太多, 因为到时候会为了那些$100差价, 你拿不到他们应该的服务. 因为他们觉得少收钱了, 能省则省..

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再问一下Bayraf, 他们包换的几个roof vent是不是可以用ROOF FAN 代替? VENT和FAN是起一样的功能吧?

如果这样行的话, 大家在换ROOF的时候,可以顺便换一个象"远帆"说的那种带遥控的ROOF FAN. 这样夏天二楼可以凉爽些.
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Up. I want to know this as well.
What is the roof vent? 就是上面有个风轮的冬冬?

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再问一下Bayraf, 他们包换的几个roof vent是不是可以用ROOF FAN 代替? VENT和FAN是起一样的功能吧?

如果这样行的话, 大家在换ROOF的时候,可以顺便换一个象"远帆"说的那种带遥控的ROOF FAN. 这样夏天二楼可以凉爽些.
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还有,有人说要用浅色的shingles寿命长点,我想是渗色吸收光热。这个说法有道理吗?我的观察,附近洋人最近换的roof 多浅蓝/绿那种,我们中国人是不是有点不能接受呢?给点建议。thanks.
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作者: Bayraf
ALPINE Roofing: 416-469-1939
是家东欧人的公司吧。(Albania?)活动范围在东Toronto。

Roofer 都很辛苦,建议准备好Coffee 和 Cookie。
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