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旧 Oct 6th, 2008, 23:27   只看该作者   #21
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CONDO和HOUSE是两个不同的消费团体.开发商们也不是傻子,如果没有市场,他们发了疯似的盖那么多CONDO干什么?
而对condo的价格影响最大的两个因素就是利率和租房市场.
只要这两个因素没有太大的变化,其他对CONDO的价格影响不大.
计算CONDO价格一个重要指标就是计算它的CASH...
房子主要是拿来租的?阿童木你买CONDO后就把它出租了吗?
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旧 Oct 6th, 2008, 23:57   只看该作者   #22
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房子主要是拿来租的?阿童木你买CONDO后就把它出租了吗?


downtown很多就是拿来出租的
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 09:12   只看该作者   #23
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CONDO和HOUSE是两个不同的消费团体.开发商们也不是傻子,如果没有市场,他们发了疯似的盖那么多CONDO干什么?
而对condo的价格影响最大的两个因素就是利率和租房市场.
只要这两个因素没有太大的变化,其他对CONDO的价格影响不大.
计算CONDO价格一个重要指标就是计算它的CASH...
如果2%利息就更好了。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 09:34   只看该作者   #24
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只要借贷成本和租房市场没有变化.那么我每月就有净200元收益.而且这个收益是建立在0本金的基础上的.房价就是跌,我也不会着急卖的.怕只怕:
银行别涨息,租客别失业...

这位挺搞:你所说的几个因素全中了:
1 现在的行情,房价是往下跌了
2 利息是往上加了,P+1 TD道明银行带头,一加就给你加一厘
3 租客是陆续失业了,因为经济衰退,失业率会很难看

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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 09:56   只看该作者   #25
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加拿大道明银行信托(TD Canada Trust)于10月7日正式升高变动利率抵押以及房屋净值贷款利息至5.75%(高于最低银行利率),预计其它各大银行会相继效仿。

根据加拿大皇家银行(Royal Bank of Canada)在线抵押贷款计算,以此利率计算,期限利率费用5年就会增加1万多元,两周一次还款将从657.83元升至725.90元。

其实,信贷危机以及经济上的不稳定性使得加拿大各大银行开始大量储备现金,从而抬高了短期贷款成本,上周定期贷款利率已经升高。

周一,加财长费海提(Jim Flaherty)表示,“全球信贷危机恶化升级,即使是最强的金融巨头机构也不得不升高长期抵押贷款利率,限制企业和个人长期贷款。”

另外,虽然如此,一些顾客仍可获得5.55%的固定抵押贷款利率5年,两周一次还款额为707.66元(25年分期偿还25万元贷款)。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 10:00   只看该作者   #26
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个人感觉出租房子很繁。投资基金收益(10%)不比投资房子差。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 10:10   只看该作者   #27
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个人感觉出租房子很繁。投资基金收益(10%)不比投资房子差。
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我有个基金是“中低风险”的,现在都跌22%了,比起DT的condo出租风险大多了。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 10:23   只看该作者   #28
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我有个基金是“中低风险”的,现在都跌22%了,比起DT的condo出租风险大多了。
我也是,但长期投资话,回报10%。而投资房子呢?可能跌100%以上,房子价格跌20-30%,你的首付基本没了。现在银行刚提高贷款利息,而之前房价已经跌了不少。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 10:59   只看该作者   #29
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CONDO和HOUSE是两个不同的消费团体.开发商们也不是傻子,如果没有市场,他们发了疯似的盖那么多CONDO干什么?
而对condo的价格影响最大的两个因素就是利率和租房市场.
只要这两个因素没有太大的变化,其他对CONDO的价格影响不大.
计算CONDO价格一个重要指标就是计算它的CASH...
买condo的不会为了每月200吧?!
更何况200是建立在 0 down,始终有租客,新condo(不用维修)
在一个上涨的房市,200+房价涨是个合理的投机,现在的市场嘛
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我也是,但长期投资话,回报10%。而投资房子呢?可能跌100%以上,房子价格跌20-30%,你的首付基本没了。现在银行刚提高贷款利息,而之前房价已经跌了不少。
查查现在DT的condos价格,现在还在涨的(不知是不是有价无市),当然以现在的价格买下来出租可能是划不来了,但是如果是3年前买的楼花现在出租是很合算的。至于银行提高贷款利息,基本利率没提呀,如果经济衰退基本利率还提,那不是经济发冷又发热?是什么道理我不懂了。好像记得去年5月也有银行提高贷款利息到7%这样的,后来却调得更低,说实话银行专家也不敢全信。
总之这些年都听喊跌,但是等你想买的时候一看又是价格又上一层楼了,我有位朋友等了好久没买房,买房了不久就跌,原来他以为到顶的condos却还在飙升,命中注定也没办法,问题是倒霉起来能不能抗得过去。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 11:05   只看该作者   #31
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查查现在DT的condos价格,现在还在涨的(不知是不是有价无市),当然以现在的价格买下来出租可能是划不来了,但是如果是3年前买的楼花现在出租是很合算的。至于银行提高贷款利息,基本利率没提呀,如果经济衰退基本利率还提,那不是经济发冷又发热?是什么道理我不懂了。好像记得去年5月也有银行提高贷款利息到7...
我想现在银行是提高贷款门槛,尽量不贷款。美国大银行倒了加拿大银行也要为危机做准备,而加拿大银行问题(这问题就是房子虚高造成的)有多严重只有他们知道,现在多留着现金,以防不测。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 11:05   只看该作者   #32
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查查现在DT的condos价格,现在还在涨的(不知是不是有价无市),当然以现在的价格买下来出租可能是划不来了,但是如果是3年前买的楼花现在出租是很合算的。至于银行提高贷款利息,基本利率没提呀,如果经济衰退基本利率还提,那不是经济发冷又发热?是什么道理我不懂了。好像记得去年5月也有银行提高贷款利息到7...
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买condo的不会为了每月200吧?!
更何况200是建立在 0 down,始终有租客,新condo(不用维修)
在一个上涨的房市,200+房价涨是个合理的投机,现在的市场嘛

不说投资,如果自住的话,比如一年轻人,租金比mortgage+管理费还多就值得买
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没人知道什么时候是顶是底,像吃鱼一样,吃鱼身就好,不要把鱼头鱼尾一起吃到,不要为了鱼尾最后接了烫手山芋就好

如果不是超出自己能力范围的投机,是在自己能力范围应付之内的就不会有
”接了烫手山芋“,怎么样我们自己也得有地方住吧,我们不能老租北师门吧?租贵的(比买)不划算吧?长期来说房价是稳步上升的,除非你在江河日下的区买房。
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不说投资,如果自住的话,比如一年轻人,租金比mortgage+管理费还多就值得买
你的现金流=(mortgage+管理费+地税+维修费+downpay合理税后收入)- 租金
if 房市不涨不跌
if 现金流>0, =》 不买(纯财务上的决定)
if 现金流<0, =》 买 !
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跟大家看衰唱点”反调“,得声明一下,我不是jj
算了,你要是想自己住,想买就买,要知道钱乃身外之物,要是投资,我觉得现在是出逃而不是进入是时候。
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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 12:03   只看该作者   #38
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你的现金流=(mortgage+管理费+地税+维修费+downpay合理税后收入)- 租金
if 房市不涨不跌
if 现金流>0, =》 不买(纯财务上的决定)
if 现金流<0, =》 买 !
如果Condo的价格是15万的话,

那么一般来说 mortgage+管理费+地税+维修费+downpay合理税后收入 会有多少呢?


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旧 Oct 7th, 2008, 12:18   只看该作者   #39
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这事可以比较牛约来说,你们哪里离牛那么近,什么恐慌(经济、人为灾难等)牛越都碰到,可公寓的价格谁见到过下掉过?大城市毕竟是大城市。

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这事可以比较牛约来说,你们哪里离牛那么近,什么恐慌(经济、人为灾难等)牛越都碰到,可公寓的价格谁见到过下掉过?大城市毕竟是大城市。


如果象底特律那样的大城市又另当别论了
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