不喜欢同这种西人做邻居 - 第2页

sludgegine · Apr 27th, 2009, 19:12

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作者: 郝哩哩

本来是要同他计较,且我也请了人来报价,即便做铁丝网也要比他便宜2,3百,上法庭我可按最底价平摊,但知道了他老婆得了癌症切有做铁丝网的强力愿望,我都不想同一个病人去争了,还是抓紧时间多挣些钱,迟早得换房.

善良要分不同对象。对于恶人要以牙还牙。这一次他占了便宜，以后会变本加厉。

另外，为了这样的人换房，成本太高，损失比分摊那个栅栏要大得多。

iga · Apr 27th, 2009, 19:30

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作者: 郝哩哩

本来是要同他计较,且我也请了人来报价,即便做铁丝网也要比他便宜2,3百,上法庭我可按最底价平摊,但知道了他老婆得了癌症切有做铁丝网的强力愿望,我都不想同一个病人去争了,还是抓紧时间多挣些钱,迟早得换房.

要么开开心心的接受你邻居的建议；要么坚持自己的权利。别搞得心里不爽，又放弃自己权利，还要给自己胆小怕事找借口。

可以清心也 · Apr 27th, 2009, 19:34

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作者: iga

要么开开心心的接受你邻居的建议；要么坚持自己的权利。别搞得心里不爽，又放弃自己权利，还要给自己胆小怕事找借口。

不一定是找借口。
觉得LZ的经济实力还说得过去，于是被自己的“同情心”欺负了。

LZ应从中得到的lesson是：There is a line in “同情心”

meatball · Apr 27th, 2009, 19:49

对LZ这种人本人不表示同情。被人robbed还自己给自己找台阶下，鄙视这种人。对西人让步的人，必会在国人身上找回来

ffwd · Apr 27th, 2009, 19:54

你去报一个木栅栏的价，如法炮制，发封挂号信让他分担一半

记得找个哥们报价，高高的

得癌症什么的，是借口啦。

7jours · Apr 27th, 2009, 20:06

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作者: 郝哩哩

左邻右舍都是西人,左边是白人,右边是伊朗人,三家的草坪是连成一片的.左边的白人通过邮电局给我一封挂号信且付上一张报价单,说是3天后他要做铁丝网把我们二家的草地拦起来,按法律第XXXX条我必需同他分担费用.要拦就一起拦,我找右边的,他说你可以做但我不会同你出一分钱.我又找左边的,要他去说服右边的,可左...

你们想共用一个围栏，则建在分界线上；否则，就建在各自的一边。
不用理他。

贪吃贪睡的美熊 · Apr 27th, 2009, 21:54

我觉得LZ要是不喜欢铁丝的,可以和邻居说明,要么一起做木头的,要么就让他们在靠近中间线的他们那边位置做他们喜欢的铁丝的,你自己在中间线这边另外做木头的.两家商量好具体位置就分头开工. 人家发挂号信给你也没什么不对,北美这里都是讲究凡事落实到字面的,丑话都说在前头也好.慢慢习惯就好了.我觉得两家分摊费用的话,你也花不了多少钱,但是做个自己喜欢的式样还是很重要的,犯不上不下因为他老婆得病你就得委屈自己.

cara · Apr 27th, 2009, 22:11

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作者: 郝哩哩

左邻右舍都是西人,左边是白人,右边是伊朗人,三家的草坪是连成一片的.左边的白人通过邮电局给我一封挂号信且付上一张报价单,说是3天后他要做铁丝网把我们二家的草地拦起来,按法律第XXXX条我必需同他分担费用.要拦就一起拦,我找右边的,他说你可以做但我不会同你出一分钱.我又找左边的,要他去说服右边的,可左...

你爽快地答应了人家却又想换房，“跟这种人做邻居胸闷”，自相矛盾，嘴上爽快却不心甘情愿，太窝囊

cara · Apr 27th, 2009, 22:17

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作者: ffwd

你去报一个木栅栏的价，如法炮制，发封挂号信让他分担一半

记得找个哥们报价，高高的

得癌症什么的，是借口啦。

这不是他妈明着敲诈吗？发个挂号信给他，跟他说你不想掏一分钱，而且他要做的话不许超过中间界线

ImBaCk · Apr 27th, 2009, 22:26

LZ不要理他，对于这样的邻居，不要回答或商谈任何问题，不要签任何协议。建议你到cityhall zoning dpt.问一下。如果他建在property-line上或者建在你的一侧（很可能啊，我知道好几个啊）你甚至可以去告他，让他拆掉。

已经给你找到markham的：你居然选择最差的结果，你和邻居分担铁网费用（不知道是不是法定的4尺高的铁网的基本费用？）
其实，你邻居他没有提前14天通知你或没有和你商量价格，或者你们没有协议（in writing) 你就不用付账，因为你没有同意，或者你认为他那个铁丝网报价不对，太贵了。
看大字，是对你邻居说的：只有他自己承担全部费用才可以建更贵的fence. 你只要说他的铁丝网太贵了，上庭也没问题，最多你自己找几家便宜的报价，就把他打垮了。

Division Fences ----Town of Markham

Do you know where your property ends and your neighbour’s property begins? This line along the front, sides and back of your property is marked on your Plan of Survey—this document is usually filed when you purchase your property. You can use this survey to figure out your fence boundary; if you need to be more accurate, a qualified surveyor can tell you exactly where these boundaries are.

When a fence is built right down the middle of this boundary, so that the posts actually straddle each property, it is called a division fence, and its construction requires sharing of the cost by both neighbours.

You have the right to build, at your expense, a division fence to mark the boundary of your property. If you desire to share these costs with your neighbour, you must first serve notice to your neighbour, at least 14 days before you begin (by registered mail) that you intend to build a fence.

Ideally, you will both agree (in writing) to split the expense equally. If you both cannot agree on the fence type and construction costs, this by-law requires your neighbour to pay only the ‘basic cost’ of building a simple 4-foot-high chain-link fence. You can achieve your plans for a more expensive fence only if you are willing to pay the rest of the cost.

If you desire this expense to be more equally shared, you and your neighbour can work this out in a provincial court. This is a private-property matter between the two of you. The Town will not get involved.

If your neighbour refuses to pay his/her share of the ‘basic cost’, you can serve notice on your neighbour (by registered mail) requiring payment in compliance with this by-law, and he/she is legally required to pay within 30 days.

Please note that fences built by condominium corporations are considered owned by the corporation, and their cost is a common expense that is paid through condominium fees.

fenying · Apr 27th, 2009, 22:30

你那白人邻居此时正得意的想着：瞧那傻瓜，不欺负就白不欺负！

BS你的窝囊！

ImBaCk · Apr 27th, 2009, 22:37

Can you build a fence right on the property line?
In: Property Law

Answer

You will have to check with the local zoning ordinances. Normally a fence has to be a foot inside the property line. Check with your local permit office to find out what the requirements are and whether or not you need a permit.

Answer

In some towns you may need to apply for a "variance" (exception) for any structure (including a fence or wall) to be built within a defined setback distance from one or more property lines.

Every area zoning on this issue can be different. Some places are 6 inches, some are a foot, and some will allow you to build up to the property line. Check with Zoning Office in your area. If you want to build up to the property line and the code says 6 inches or a foot away, get property owner to give you permission to build up to the property line and have it notarized. With that and a survey, you can then get a permit to build up to the property line.

gasgas · Apr 28th, 2009, 02:38

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作者: 郝哩哩

本来是要同他计较,且我也请了人来报价,即便做铁丝网也要比他便宜2,3百,上法庭我可按最底价平摊,但知道了他老婆得了癌症切有做铁丝网的强力愿望,我都不想同一个病人去争了,还是抓紧时间多挣些钱,迟早得换房.

所谓：天作孽，犹可违；自作孽，不可活。我是指楼主的邻居。
同情心应该有，可是也不能由着可怜人胡来。情理不通。

郝哩哩 · Apr 28th, 2009, 08:53

没精力搞内战

iga · Apr 28th, 2009, 10:20

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作者: 郝哩哩

不过从这件事上也的确反应出中国人求太平的弱点---白人的左边是香港人,右边是我家.去年香港人拦,白人一分不出,香港人也没告他.
白人在偷着乐的同时是不会想到中国的一句古话"恶有恶报",而我们总时不忘"善有善报".这也是我们中国人会暖弱的缘故

不是找碴，但是我很想知道，如果你住香港人边上，你觉得香港人会自己付钱么（你不是他，也许你回答不了这个问题）；或者你旁边的是大陆同胞，非让你付一半的钱做你不喜欢的栅栏，而你已经知道你有权利拒绝，你还会很不情愿的答应么？

如果想与人为善，那就开心一点，牢记吃亏是福的古训。

sage · Apr 28th, 2009, 14:26

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作者: 郝哩哩

左邻右舍都是西人,左边是白人,右边是伊朗人,三家的草坪是连成一片的.左边的白人通过邮电局给我一封挂号信且付上一张报价单,说是3天后他要做铁丝网把我们二家的草地拦起来,按法律第XXXX条我必需同他分担费用.要拦就一起拦,我找右边的,他说你可以做但我不会同你出一分钱.我又找左边的,要他去说服右边的,可左...

我们当年装fence也跟左边邻居大吵了一架，他扬言要在他的地盘埋地雷，我们要胆敢越雷池一步就会被炸得粉身碎骨。这个邻居还威逼他左边的邻居跟他分担费用，人家说暂时没钱，他就逼着人家签了个什么协议。搞笑得不行。后来他在自己地盘把fence做了。现在我们是老死不相往来。这家人是罗马尼亚人。

我们右边的邻居一搬进来就自己装上fence了。一开始没跟他分担费用，当时我们没狗也没孩子，觉得没必要。但同意他把fence装在中轴线上。后来我们自己装过fence还是把钱给他了。这是家本地加拿大人。

你邻居没理由把fence装在中轴线上的，必须往他那边进去半尺，不然你可以告他。

GOOODGUY · Apr 28th, 2009, 16:56

我也鄙视楼主，道理不会讲，还找借口。这种被人压迫的人，对自己的同胞以后会更加爱刻薄。

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作者: meatball

对LZ这种人本人不表示同情。被人robbed还自己给自己找台阶下，鄙视这种人。对西人让步的人，必会在国人身上找回来

GOOODGUY · Apr 28th, 2009, 16:58

还古训啊，？？？？
在一个现代人的眼里-----那是愚昧
:

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作者: iga

不是找碴，但是我很想知道，如果你住香港人边上，你觉得香港人会自己付钱么（你不是他，也许你回答不了这个问题）；或者你旁边的是大陆同胞，非让你付一半的钱做你不喜欢的栅栏，而你已经知道你有权利拒绝，你还会很不情愿的答应么？

如果想与人为善，那就开心一点，牢记吃亏是福的古训。

GOOODGUY · Apr 28th, 2009, 17:01

中国人就是因为楼主这样的人太多了。所以给人的整体形象非常糟糕。这些人来这里干嘛呢？法律武器就在手里却不去拿，还怨天尤人。。。。。。思想还是停留在满请时代。

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作者: fenying

你那白人邻居此时正得意的想着：瞧那傻瓜，不欺负就白不欺负！

BS你的窝囊！

GOOODGUY · Apr 28th, 2009, 17:05

左右被欺负啊？？？？我看了都非常风怒，你是满清政府啊？？？？

如果干不过白人。你为什么不和偷渡的人住在一起啊。这样就可以欺负别人了。

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作者: 郝哩哩

左邻右舍都是西人,左边是白人,右边是伊朗人,三家的草坪是连成一片的.左边的白人通过邮电局给我一封挂号信且付上一张报价单,说是3天后他要做铁丝网把我们二家的草地拦起来,按法律第XXXX条我必需同他分担费用.要拦就一起拦,我找右边的,他说你可以做但我不会同你出一分钱.我又找左边的,要他去说服右边的,可左...

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ffwd Banned 注册日期: Dec 2005 帖子: 10,749 积分:1 精华:1 声望: 10655156	你去报一个木栅栏的价，如法炮制，发封挂号信让他分担一半记得找个哥们报价，高高的得癌症什么的，是借口啦。

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ImBaCk 呼喊三注册日期: Dec 2006 帖子: 2,242 积分:3 精华:1 声望: 540627	LZ不要理他，对于这样的邻居，不要回答或商谈任何问题，不要签任何协议。建议你到cityhall zoning dpt.问一下。如果他建在property-line上或者建在你的一侧（很可能啊，我知道好几个啊）你甚至可以去告他，让他拆掉。已经给你找到markham的：你居然选择最差的结果，你和邻居分担铁网费用（不知道是不是法定的4尺高的铁网的基本费用？）其实，你邻居他没有提前14天通知你或没有和你商量价格，或者你们没有协议（in writing) 你就不用付账，因为你没有同意，或者你认为他那个铁丝网报价不对，太贵了。看大字，是对你邻居说的：只有他自己承担全部费用才可以建更贵的fence. 你只要说他的铁丝网太贵了，上庭也没问题，最多你自己找几家便宜的报价，就把他打垮了。 Division Fences ----Town of Markham Do you know where your property ends and your neighbour’s property begins? This line along the front, sides and back of your property is marked on your Plan of Survey—this document is usually filed when you purchase your property. You can use this survey to figure out your fence boundary; if you need to be more accurate, a qualified surveyor can tell you exactly where these boundaries are. When a fence is built right down the middle of this boundary, so that the posts actually straddle each property, it is called a division fence, and its construction requires sharing of the cost by both neighbours. You have the right to build, at your expense, a division fence to mark the boundary of your property. If you desire to share these costs with your neighbour, you must first serve notice to your neighbour, at least 14 days before you begin (by registered mail) that you intend to build a fence. Ideally, you will both agree (in writing) to split the expense equally. If you both cannot agree on the fence type and construction costs, this by-law requires your neighbour to pay only the ‘basic cost’ of building a simple 4-foot-high chain-link fence. You can achieve your plans for a more expensive fence only if you are willing to pay the rest of the cost. If you desire this expense to be more equally shared, you and your neighbour can work this out in a provincial court. This is a private-property matter between the two of you. The Town will not get involved. If your neighbour refuses to pay his/her share of the ‘basic cost’, you can serve notice on your neighbour (by registered mail) requiring payment in compliance with this by-law, and he/she is legally required to pay within 30 days. Please note that fences built by condominium corporations are considered owned by the corporation, and their cost is a common expense that is paid through condominium fees. 此帖于 Apr 27th, 2009 23:46 被 ImBaCk 编辑。

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郝哩哩 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2006 帖子: 469 积分:2 精华:1 声望: 1	没精力搞内战此帖于 Apr 29th, 2009 20:01 被郝哩哩编辑。原因: 漏几字.

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贪吃贪睡的美熊 Senior Member 注册日期: Jan 2006 帖子: 2,362 积分:18 精华:6 声望: 1883358	我觉得LZ要是不喜欢铁丝的,可以和邻居说明,要么一起做木头的,要么就让他们在靠近中间线的他们那边位置做他们喜欢的铁丝的,你自己在中间线这边另外做木头的.两家商量好具体位置就分头开工. 人家发挂号信给你也没什么不对,北美这里都是讲究凡事落实到字面的,丑话都说在前头也好.慢慢习惯就好了.我觉得两家分摊费用的话,你也花不了多少钱,但是做个自己喜欢的式样还是很重要的,犯不上不下因为他老婆得病你就得委屈自己.

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fenying Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 389 积分:2 精华:1 声望: 1412214	你那白人邻居此时正得意的想着：瞧那傻瓜，不欺负就白不欺负！ BS你的窝囊！

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ImBaCk 呼喊三注册日期: Dec 2006 帖子: 2,242 积分:3 精华:1 声望: 540627	Can you build a fence right on the property line? In: Property Law Answer You will have to check with the local zoning ordinances. Normally a fence has to be a foot inside the property line. Check with your local permit office to find out what the requirements are and whether or not you need a permit. Answer In some towns you may need to apply for a "variance" (exception) for any structure (including a fence or wall) to be built within a defined setback distance from one or more property lines. Every area zoning on this issue can be different. Some places are 6 inches, some are a foot, and some will allow you to build up to the property line. Check with Zoning Office in your area. If you want to build up to the property line and the code says 6 inches or a foot away, get property owner to give you permission to build up to the property line and have it notarized. With that and a survey, you can then get a permit to build up to the property line.