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旧 Nov 24th, 2012, 18:37     #1
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默认 贡献一个美国买车价格和经验,2013 subaru fore

贡献一个美国买车价格和经验,2013 subaru forester 2.5x w/ alloy wheel package.

加拿大带来的车比较旧了。
先说价格:最后成交价格是$20,600 + ttl, OTD $22,145(出门价,本州税6.25%,文件费等200-300块)
1、看车:开始没有决定什么时候买,慢慢看。几个月前开始看,预算在20000-25000,主要集中看经济型compact size SUV,试驾了VW tiguan, Honda CR-V,Toyota RAV4,Subaru Forester,Chevy Equinox, GMC Terrain,Ford Escape。GMC Terrain和Chevy Equinox是马甲车,个人感觉更喜欢Terrain,不过GMC偏贵点,没考虑。Equinox和Escape(2013)感觉不错,基本配置普遍比日德要好,不过美车新车也不便宜。Toyota RAV4不是很喜欢,Honda CR-V新款那个大屁股...虽然很实用,不过确实不怎么照顾大多人的审美。Tiguan很不错,只是后背箱的空间。。。Forester最开始看的是2012,开起来的感觉还可以,不过噪音确实大点,错过了一个好的清仓的deal。老实说,这些车其实个个都不错,内饰啥的对我来说不是很重要,我更在乎价格。我最后把目标主要锁定在forester,其它车也考虑。

2、寻价:
不喜欢一头雾水跑到dealer那里去,往往很难一下掌握到最好的价格,不喜欢浪费时间和汽油在各dealer之间。我开始在dealer网站寻价,参考未名空间最近别人拿到的好DEAL的价格,反正各州车价格虽然和市场有关,但基本同配置的车,价格也不应该差上千。各州的出门价格都是车价加TTL,但各地方税率不同,手续费不同。所以,一般人家报OTD价格,我要算算他的车价到底是多少。一般我直接给dealer说,要他最好的价格,谈好价格我就直接去提车,另外把车商的incentives,Holdback去掉。另让dealer提供dealer INVOICE,当然dealer的实际成本不可能是那个INVOICE,不过是个基本的参考,在那基础上一般dealer还有holdback, incentives....最后成交的dealer给出的价格比较实在,几次讨价还价,拿更好的价格要求BEAT后,最后自己再出OFFER,最后我要求22000 OTD,只能让到22145。正好不是很急买,想看看圣诞节是否有更好的价格或贷款,或直接等等上2014新款(CVT变速)。谁知,老车出了问题,没车用,决定买,一看贷款现在是36 months 0% APR,比先前的0.9%还好。。。

3、网上问到的最好价格,当然不是所有车都很认真的问了。
2013 Ford Scape S ?
2013 Subaru Forester 2.5x with/alloy kg
got 22145 OTD. 36 months, 0% APR.

2012 Toyota RAV4 Base 4x2
got best $21478 + ttl

2013 Honda CR-V EX 2WD
$26207 otd

2012 CR-V EX 2WD:
$23098 + ttl = 24791 otd

2013 CR-V LX 2WD;
got $22300 + TTL. someone got 23600 OTD for LX 4WD.

2012 Chevrolet Equinox LS 2WD
got $22,832 + ttl
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买车是个综合考虑,在我报的价格里面,只有forester是AWD(他家全是AWD,虽然这个有人说是伪AWD)。其它都是基本的2WD,AWD需要再加1000以上,也就是说要贵一些。另外,就安全性而言,至少Forester在所有测试中成绩都算优。他家最大的问题是反映噪音大,另外内饰相对粗糙。还有萎缩的一点,就是现在你要承认,日本车resell价格还是比美国车抗跌,去比较一下,同样是基本款,forester买的时候比Equinox便宜2000,五年后resell却要贵2000,这上下4000的差距也是个考虑因素。当然Equinox基本配置比forester好,driver seat电控,最喜欢的是还可以调整腰部顶住的位置,很舒服。
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你这么是limited款,我的是base款,比我这个配置高不少,msrp差了4000块。你的33000出门价是在美国买的还是加拿大?税率多少?其它费用呢?

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你这一辆和我的那辆几乎一模一样,LP看见又该掉眼泪了
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有钱人换车换这么勤?米帝没outback touring,2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium w/All-Weather Pkg有人拿到27900出门,不知道和touring配置上多大区别。

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是在阿省买的33500是总价阿省的税是5%其他费用不清楚,我告诉他们我数学不好别给我整七七八八的直接给个价合适就签字画押。
那辆车已经没了,今年9月份又整了辆2012的鳌拜2.5升 touring package,也是清仓的上路价32000不带遥控点火,能不能帮我看看美帝那里大概要多少:tired...
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是对着头侧撞?看上去想是把头剪了一刀下去一样。不过车箱体没受什么伤,你这车估计会在二手市场拍卖,应该很容易修好。

Subaru Canada要Delivery Charges: $1695 ,太离谱了。我发个dealer给我的他们的invoice,当然他们实际成本比这低得多。因为里面没包括各种subaru holdback, incentives, dealer cash, amount purchase discount...两个价格,前面是建议售价,后面是dealer cost.我最后拿到的车价是20600 + ttl,比dealer cost 低了$2100

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Item Item Description | Manufacturing Suggested Price | Dealer Cost
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DFB 2013 Forester 2.5X 4AT $22,495.00 $21,256.00
ISM Ice Silver Metallic
BLC Dark Gray
Option Package 21 $900.00 $348.00
Alloy Wheel Package
16-inch Alloy Wheels, Roof Rails -
Black Finish
FYD Popular Package #2 $606.00 $389.00
K9D Auto Dim Mirror/Compass w/Homelink
P9A Splash Guard Kit
P9J Rear Bumper Cover
M9E Cargo Tray
STD Standard Destination Charge $795.00 $795.00
--------------------- --------------------
Total Vehicle Price Before Discount $24,796.00 $22,788.00
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DIS Option Package Discount -$500.00 $0.00
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Total Vehicle Price After Discount $24,296.00 $22,788.00
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那辆车被个闯红灯的阿X给撞废了,LP现在一见蓝色森林人就念叨和我那辆一模一样。
美帝的Premium应该相当于加拿大的LIMITED,我那辆鳌拜已经含了个5000刀的清仓折扣告诉经理我们是回头客于是又抹掉了零头但死活不送遥控点火(要700刀)我说一家一半也不行
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默认 再贡献几条经验.

1.选车型时,应该安排足够时间去Dealer那里试驾,另外看车,有兴趣的话,看under hood等等,研究明白车的设计如何...

2.谈价格时,要以OTD为准,OTD谈好,最后一定不要在OTD上松动.但比较网上的价格,要看别人的Sale Price,因为各地方的税及title等费用不同.但同配置车价格是差不多的,当然这里面还有不同dealer的采购discount不同及市场不同的区别.多问问不同的dealers,要求beat或match价格.要求看dealer的invoice,当然dealer实际成本比这个低很多,因为还有dealer holback,incentives,dealer cash, amount discount等等没有在invoice里面减掉.

3.dealer一般会有三个方面赚钱:1.车谈sale price,如果那个价格给得很低,dealer就想在其它费用上做文章,所以一定谈OTD.2.有trade-in,也很容易多赚1000-3000,所以老车尽量自己卖,把精力集中字新车上和dealer做生意.否则同时开买新车,trade-in旧车,Finance三条战线,很容易被dealer逐个击破. 实在都需要,就一个个谈,谈完一个再谈另一个. 不要混在一起谈,那样你很容易被dealer击破至少一个方面.3.Financial Plan,让你没意识间加很多东西,如卖一些保险计划,还有APR,downpayment等等.总之,守住原则和自己的价格,没有一定要买的样子,不行就走人.

4.最后,几辆可以挑,首先颜色不能接受的当然不行,但大多数颜色都ok,增加可选择范围.最主要要注意比较车的里程数,还有体会各车启动情况震动等等情况,区别,上路,转弯,路面反映的区别等等,特别静态怠速抖动,各车由于最后总装的误差(当然都在可接受的公差范围内),会有小小区别,这其实从一个角度反映出各车最后的总装水平

5. 购车最好时候(今年是2012):1.每年7-10月,当年款(如2012年款)清仓,车会有很大折扣,如果第二年车改款,折扣更大,但一般到10月份基本就当年款清完了.2.每年11-12月,销售旺季,第二年车(2013年款)到货卖了一段时间了,shopping季节,也会有很多折扣,特别是圣诞节左右,新年前,月底年底,销售冲年底业绩,也会有很大折扣.另外,年底的finance可能有什么0% APR, 0 downpayment...另外一般月底那几天,销售冲当月业绩,也好谈价格一些.

6.建议,一般不急买,慢慢看,问价格,email里面问,让sales觉得你serious而且很快买,会给不错的价格出来.onsite有时经验不足,未必能拿到更好的价格,当然,onsite当练习语言,慢慢磨,不急马上开车走,不行不买就是,不是非买不可.也可以拿到好价格.另外,选车型,可以要求做BCA,就是开回去几天试车,不喜欢退回去.前提是来回方便.
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forester FB25 boxer engine动静真大!
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对,可能还加title等杂七杂八的费用.刚才看了outback 2.5i最基本的msrp是25700,我有信心谈到车价21500+ttl,不过那车我不喜欢,是wagon不是suv.

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很不错的价格。运到加拿大是不是大约 $20600 X 1.061 X1.13?

你知道OUTBack 2.5i Auto 是什么价吗?刚问了多伦多的价是$33000.
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开了近一个月这个车,高速上是很大声音。别的方面表现不错,推荐!现在这车年底前差不多可以谈到车2万出头加ttl,subaru现在还有APR 0%(不过估计加拿大过美国买车贷不到),另外subaru可以cover加拿大人美国买车。觉得这车AWD在toronto的冬天还是很实用的!
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更新一下:有人居然这几天在美国用$20015 + TTL买到这款车,配置基本一样的.看来现在到新年是买车的最好时机啊!
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夸张啊.

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看看俺老的链接吧,开这车要开车窗的,内饰材料有毒,尤其是夏天的时候,如果在太阳下暴晒了几个小时,进车启动前最好先通风,俺老提醒提醒哈。

记得本论坛小D也是开这车的,有心的人,是可以观察到这小子最近的忽然转性的,狠危险,老实说。
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tracking control问题具体体现在什么情况?

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价钱挺合适的而已,这车的tracking control有狠大的问题,俺老提醒一下。
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什么车180KM的时速转弯,没有tracking control问题? 你嫉妒我的价格...

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这车不是狠快吗,就是一踩油门,可能会踩深了,于是车就窜沟里去了,狠简单,或者拐弯时,如果速度够快,比如说你这车如果时速有180,就狠可能翻车,提醒提醒。
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