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旧 Dec 8th, 2012, 21:56     #1
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默认 美猫, 有个问题关于 multi-vitamin

前几天从 iherb.com 上 order supplements 的时候, 突然发现 Garden of Life Vitamin Code 还有 New Chapter Organics 的 multivitamin 成份好像不够理想.

比如:
Vitamin B12: cyanocobalamin (这是有毒的物质, 身体需要先分解毒素再吸收)
Zinc: zinc oxide (难以吸收)
Magnesium: magnesium oxide (难以吸收)
Chromium: chromium chloride (难以吸收)
...

做了一下比较, 发现 Thorne Research 的东西比较 ethical.

比如
Vitamin B12: 225 mg as Adenosylcobalamin and 225 mcg as Methylcobalamin (都是最好的形式, 而且容易吸收)
Zinc: zinc picolinate (也是最好的形式, 容易吸收)
Magnesium: magnesium picolinate
Chromium: Chromium Chelidamate Arginate

看来 Garden of Life 和 New Chapter 都不是什么好东西...

[References]
http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research...gie-Caps/18123
http://www.healthyplanetcanada.com/s...ducts_id=14438

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旧 Dec 8th, 2012, 22:12   只看该作者   #2
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所以说,我自己是不吃multi的。因为总有一些成分不是你最想要的形式。这跟成本,生产工艺都有关系~~

Thorne research里面也有很多成分不是我们想要的,但是你怎么办呢?

Zinc: zinc picolinate (也是最好的形式, 容易吸收)。这可不是zinc最好的形式~~

但总体来说,garden of life的multi我认为还是最好的。

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旧 Dec 8th, 2012, 22:27   只看该作者   #3
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所以说,我自己是不吃multi的。因为总有一些成分不是你最想要的形式。这跟成本,生产工艺都有关系~~

Thorne research里面也有很多成分不是我们想要的,但是你怎么办呢?

Zinc: zinc picolinate (也是最好的形式, 容易吸收)。这可不是zinc最好的形式~~

但总...
看来我做对了,这次我也是分开 order 的,分别是 Vitamin B complex, D3, K2 MK-4, Zinc, Magnesium and fish oil.
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旧 Dec 9th, 2012, 06:44   只看该作者   #4
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看来我做对了,这次我也是分开 order 的,分别是 Vitamin B complex, D3, K2 MK-4, Zinc, Magnesium and fish oil.
你缺锌和镁吗?
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旧 Dec 9th, 2012, 09:00   只看该作者   #5
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看来我做对了,这次我也是分开 order 的,分别是 Vitamin B complex, D3, K2 MK-4, Zinc, Magnesium and fish oil.
有必要单独补这么多么
fish oil 还是 cod liver oil?
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有必要单独补这么多么
fish oil 还是 cod liver oil?
也就是自己抓药,起到 Multi vitamin 的作用,那里的成分更多。而且自己调,具体量可以自己掌握。

我觉得 fish oil 好些,纯净些。cod liver oil 的好处是除了 DHA DFA 以外还有 D3。
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你缺锌和镁吗?
不缺,但是 zinc 是必需的,增强抵抗力。D3 需要 K2 和 magnesium 一起工作效果最好。

之前吃 Garden of Life Multi vitamin 效果不错,抵抗力增强了,完全没病过。
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也就是自己抓药,起到 Multi vitamin 的作用,那里的成分更多。而且自己调,具体量可以自己掌握。

我觉得 fish oil 好些,纯净些。cod liver oil 的好处是除了 DHA DFA 以外还有 D3。
还有 VA. 纯净,这根加工过程有关, 所以我只认garden of life. 而且cod liver oil里面各种成分的比例是最好的,fish oil,就算是同等情况下,效果也比cod liver oil差很多~
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不缺,但是 zinc 是必需的,增强抵抗力。D3 需要 K2 和 magnesium 一起工作效果最好。

之前吃 Garden of Life Multi vitamin 效果不错,抵抗力增强了,完全没病过。
我觉得如果你不缺zinc,就没有必要去吃supplement,因为食物当中是很多的。这是金属,控制不好就会过量。我记得以前那个实验室有专门卖试纸的,好像用你的唾液测量一下就知道是不是缺锌。但是你不缺,我建议你不要吃。而且,锌只有一种形式是对人体有益的,gluconate~~
那个镁也是,吃多了上厕所~~
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vitamin D3是supplement,提取的,cod liver oil 属于 whole foods,最好的补充D3的方法,还是 cod liver oil~~
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前几天从 iherb.com 上 order supplements 的时候, 突然发现 Garden of Life Vitamin Code 还有 New Chapter Organics 的 multivitamin 成份好像不够理想.

比如:
Vitamin B12: cyanocobal...
这个很吓人啊,看了一下NEW CHAPTER 的PRENATAL MULTIVITAMIN就是这种形式,应该早知道这些,都吃了好久了。唉。
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vitamin D3是supplement,提取的,cod liver oil 属于 whole foods,最好的补充D3的方法,还是 cod liver oil~~
flax 对老年人便秘有帮助么?还有什么有效的?
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vitamin D3是supplement,提取的,cod liver oil 属于 whole foods,最好的补充D3的方法,还是 cod liver oil~~
cod liver oil 最大的问题就是污染,有 mercury, PCBs and dioxanes,而且 cod liver oil 的 Vitamin A 含量很高,每一 teaspoon 里有 800IU。所以不敢给孩子吃。

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我觉得如果你不缺zinc,就没有必要去吃supplement,因为食物当中是很多的。这是金属,控制不好就会过量。我记得以前那个实验室有专门卖试纸的,好像用你的唾液测量一下就知道是不是缺锌。但是你不缺,我建议你不要吃。而且,锌只有一种形式是对人体有益的,gluconate~~
那个镁也是,吃多了上厕...
Zinc picolinate 肯定比 garden of Life 里的 zinc oxidate 好的多。zinc gluconate 就下次吧。

zinc 和 magensium 具体多少,我觉得不超过 multi-vitamin 的含量就行了。
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cod liver oil 最大的问题就是污染,有 mercury, PCBs and dioxanes,而且 cod liver oil 的 Vitamin A 含量很高,每一 teaspoon 里有 800IU。所以不敢给孩子吃。



Zinc picolinate 肯定比 garde...
cod liver oil kids的,也同样问题么?
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flax 对老年人便秘有帮助么?还有什么有效的?
这种seed主要就是纤维咯,你最好除了flax seed外,再混一点其它的,chia, salba, hemp会比较好~~
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cod liver oil 最大的问题就是污染,有 mercury, PCBs and dioxanes,而且 cod liver oil 的 Vitamin A 含量很高,每一 teaspoon 里有 800IU。所以不敢给孩子吃。



Zinc picolinate 肯定比 garde...
孩子吃的有专门的kids cod liver oil,VA的量,只要照着说明吃,你不用担心的,而且我推荐的两个大人和小孩的品牌,我都专门看过报告,特别是garden of life,几乎百分之百没有你说的这些污染了,还是跟加工工艺有关。别忘了普通鱼油,如果加工不得法,产生氧化,对身体是有害的
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孩子吃的有专门的kids cod liver oil,VA的量,只要照着说明吃,你不用担心的,而且我推荐的两个大人和小孩的品牌,我都专门看过报告,特别是garden of life,几乎百分之百没有你说的这些污染了,还是跟加工工艺有关。别忘了普通鱼油,如果加工不得法,产生氧化,对身体是有害的
我比较懒,一种鱼油大人小孩一起用比较方便些。

我一直用的是 Carlson labs very finest fish oil,据它所说是完全没有污染的。

THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully potent and free of detrimental levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCB's and 28 other contaminants.
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我比较懒,一种鱼油大人小孩一起用比较方便些。

我一直用的是 Carlson labs very finest fish oil,据它所说是完全没有污染的。

THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international pr...
这是个不错的牌子。他家小孩的cod liver oil很好~~
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我觉得如果你不缺zinc,就没有必要去吃supplement,因为食物当中是很多的。这是金属,控制不好就会过量。我记得以前那个实验室有专门卖试纸的,好像用你的唾液测量一下就知道是不是缺锌。但是你不缺,我建议你不要吃。而且,锌只有一种形式是对人体有益的,gluconate~~
那个镁也是,吃多了上厕...
哪里有卖 zinc test strip? 有没有 magnesium test strip? Vitamin D3 是不是比较麻烦,需要 blood sample 才能测试?
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