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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 17:06   只看该作者   #41
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一个晚上还留下印,一定很重了,家庭暴力很显然的。
一般老师看到异常,会问孩子怎么回事,如果孩子说打的,就会立刻报告,如果孩子说不清,老师只是怀疑,也有可能报告,有时第一次有关部门--Children's Aid Society不一定受理,但是有记录,以后再有对同一个人的报告,就肯定会重视了。
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我在国内时,曾经有一次因为我累了心情不好又遇到孩子特别淘气,更不爽了,动手打了孩子PP,挺重的,现在都忘不了孩子恐惧无助的眼神和他的哭喊。事后老爸把我骂了一顿,说这种时候打孩子是迁怒,不是教育,我当时觉得很委屈,哭着对爸说,我打他我也痛,心很痛的,但我也是人,虽然是当妈妈了,我也有累的时候。
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 17:17   只看该作者   #43
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无论对于同情或者不同情本人的朋友,我都感谢您们的发言。我真的需要有经验的或者熟悉法律程序的朋友,告诉我以后怎么走。

我找过3个华人律师以及3-4个西人律师。除了第一个华人律师说的太玄乎,竟然说我为什么要卖了自己,在警察面前说实话。后来在第一次去法庭,我看到缩写版本的警察报告,说孩子一下子就承认是爸爸大的。幸亏我没有撒谎,不然麻烦更多。

其余几个律师差不多一件接近,说自己承认有罪,争取宽大处理。保留1年犯罪记录,如果这一年没有再发生,犯罪记录不再保留,不影响以后工作。还有几个律师不表态,要先看到警察详细报告。

有人说要3-6月才能回家,还要上课怎么控制脾气。漫长,度日如年,几千的律师费+上课费+租房子,这代价太大了,自己造成的苦果。

在家里孩子(女孩)跟我很亲,每天下班回家都往我身上爬,在外面需要pi-pi,宁愿跟我去男厕所,也不跟妈妈去女厕所。每天早上我先送孩子去上学,然后开车去上班。要使孩子不早点睡,第2天起床就费劲,吃饭也麻烦。有时候我有压力,不愿意老是被公司说上班太晚。

不管怎么说,我必须承担一切后果,以后反思自己怎么培养淘气的孩子。当务之急,怎么早点回家,分担家庭责任?

最后,我的教训告诉其他朋友,在加拿大,孩子不仅仅属于家庭,也属于加拿大政府,不能越过底线管教孩子。

请能帮上忙的朋友发邮件给我,感激不尽。 dogtail891@yahoo.ca
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 17:20   只看该作者   #44
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听说穆斯林打和印度人教育小孩没人管,说是宗教和文化。华人真的谁都可以捏一把。

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1。在高速上开车的时候,千万千万不能睡觉。
2。虎头虎脑,宽敞明亮,北美幸福舒畅生活的写照。
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 19:50   只看该作者   #45
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默认 同情,但打孩子总是不对的

俗话说的好,“没有管不好的孩子,只有不会教的父母”。
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 20:01   只看该作者   #46
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看来你是没有被爹妈狠打过,心灵的伤害表面可是看不出来的。
它已经被打成被虐狂了,然后它就继续虐待它孩子
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它已经被打成被虐狂了,然后它就继续虐待它孩子
看看你现在的言行,就知道你是打小受虐,现在是个活生生的受虐狂,对八,fubar。

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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 20:44   只看该作者   #48
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四岁多的孩子是有点固执,我家的也是这样的,固执叛逆得有时候让你真的想揍她一顿。

我记得这网上有谁说了,在加拿大允许家长用手掌打孩子不重要的地方。以后家长要是实在很生气,用手掌打一下pp就好了啊,别用毛巾或木棍了。

我承认有时候我也很冲动,动手打了她pp,不过好在打完几分钟后...
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 22:05   只看该作者   #49
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lz用了工具,出手又重当然不可以了。

Supreme Court says parents can spank -- within limits

http://www.canadianchristianity.com/...es/040205spank

By Frank Stirk

TWO Pro-family allies in the legal battle to defend the right of parents to spank their children appear to interpret differently the Supreme Court of Canada's decision last month to uphold Section 43 of the Criminal Code.

While Focus on the Family Canada hailed the ruling as "protecting families and parents from being labelled as criminals," the Canada Family Action Coalition (CFAC) denounced it as "an invasion of parenting."

In a 6-3 judgment handed down last Friday, the Supreme Court rejected the appeal of the Toronto-based Canadian Foundation for Children, Youth, and the Law (CFCYL) to strike down Section 43, which allows parents and teachers to exert "reasonable force" in disciplining a child. It argued the law is discriminatory, infringes the right of children to security of the person, and leaves children vulnerable to cruel and unusual punishment.

On the contrary, the justices concluded that the best interests of children would not be served by making criminals out parents and teachers who choose to administer a spanking in order to correct unruly behaviour.

"While children need a safe environment, they also depend on [them] for guidance and discipline," wrote Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin for the majority. Eliminating Section 43 altogether, she stated, raised the spectre of parents being separated from their children "with its attendant rupture of the family setting."

But the justices also noted that court decisions based on Section 43 have shown little consistency in recent years -- and they attempted to prevent that in future by setting down some guidelines on when a spanking was permissible. As a result, it is now forbidden to spank children under two (because they are said to be too young to learn a lesson from the punishment meted out) and the only permissible instrument that can be used to deliver a spanking is an open hand.

Said McLachlin, Section 43 can only be used as a legal defence against an assault charge in cases of "sober, reasoned uses of force that address the actual behaviour of the child and are designed to restrain, control or express some symbolic disapproval of his or her behaviour. Degrading, inhuman or harmful conduct is not protected."

To CFAC president Dr. Charles McVety, these limitations are an "invasion of parenting [that] is not only outrageous, it is also severely flawed." In a news release, the Alberta-based pro-family group accused the Supreme Court of ignoring the advice of "many" child-rearing experts never to use the hand for corrective discipline. "The hand should be reserved for loving and caring," it states. "The court has now made criminals of those who obey such logical instructions."

The CFAC also dismissed as "outlandish" the ban on spanking children younger than two. "Every parent knows that a 23-month-old child has incredible learning ability," it said.

Focus Canada spokesperson Michael Martens, on the other hand, commended the Supreme Court for affirming the importance of parenting. "I think what they've done here is protected parents so that they will not be criminalized in a basic function of raising children," he said on CBC-TV's The National.

And unlike McVety, Martens did not foresee the new limitations on spanking included in the decision causing problems for parents. "The stipulations given by the Supreme Court," he said, "will help judges in the future to interpret whether or not something is abuse, and we do believe they are guidelines."

Some anti-spanking advocates took the opposite tack. CFCYL lawyer Cheryl Milne told Canadian Press that although they were "obviously disappointed" that Section 43 had not been abolished, the new guidelines still made it "a better judgment than the courts below, so we have gained some ground."

Yet to Dundas, Ontario, social worker and child development expert Gary Direnfeld, there is no such silver lining. "This is a sad day for Canadian children," he wrote. "Spanking doesn't teach children to internalize rules. It only teaches them to avoid being caught and worse, it models the very behaviour we may want them to stop."

But faith-based pro-family groups were not the only ones to stand before the Supreme Court in defence of Section 43. Canada's teachers did as well -- and not because they endorse corporal punishment.

"Sometimes we have to physically put a student on a bus at the end of a field trip," Manitoba Teachers' Society president Brian Ardern told the Winnipeg Sun. "Our concern was if you take Section 43 away, every time a student is physically touched [a teacher] could face criminal prosecution."

Many news media outlets also welcomed the ruling. "The judgment," said the National Post, "is a well-deserved blow to the busybodies who would define all spanking as assault, and who brought this case to court with over $100,000 in federal help" from the controversial Court Challenges Program.

The Globe and Mail stated: "Canadian parents, most of whom abhor the very idea of striking their own children and try to avoid doing so, will be relieved to learn that they still can use minor corrective force within the family without being fined or imprisoned."

"This is as it should be," said the Saskatoon Star-Phoenix. "What was required is a balance, which the Court appears to have achieved."

But anti-spanking advocates are not giving up. "Public opinion changes as we gain evidence and knowledge about these things," Peter Dudding with the Child Welfare League of Canada told the Toronto Star, "so I think the battleground will now shift to our political leaders and doing what is right on behalf of children."

Derek Rogusky, Focus Canada's vice-president of family policy, is equally aware that this fight over spanking will not go away anytime soon. "We have to be ready, to be watchful. We have to be prepared to go to court again," he told the Calgary Sun.

"What has just happened is a little bit of a theoretical exercise. For today, it is a victory."
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旧 Sep 23rd, 2009, 22:08   只看该作者   #50
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零容忍!

打孩子轻重全在父母的一念之间,能够容忍一巴掌,就能够容忍一条毛巾,就能够容忍一根棍子,甚至粗一些的棍子,还有镊子,钳子,老虎凳子。。。

醉酒驾驶在加拿大属于刑事案件,在没有出事故以前,任何处罚看起来都重了。但一旦后果出现了,你会认为怎么处罚都不为过。

打孩子也一样!
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在加拿大作父母可真TMD难!小孩子该打的时候还是要打的,光靠说服教育不行。这也是成长的一部分。
啥时候该打呢?
孩子淘气到底是孩子该打还是父母该打呢?
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很多人觉得打是教育的一部分,我就想好奇地问一下,如果“劝说孩子不听”就要打,那到了叛逆期你是不是要把孩子打残了他才听话。
打孩子只能让他们在你面前害怕你,不能让他们学会好习惯。
另外不要说中国长大的孩子父母都打过,长大了一样好好的。其实就是因为中国很多父母打孩子,使得现在这些孩子长大以后为人父母...
你的理解有点点偏,我们说的是,因为各种原因被家长责骂甚至打几下是成长的一部份(至少对我们这一代人来说),并不是说着打骂孩子是教育的一部份。

作为移民,在很多事情上都需要时间慢慢适应,尤其是子女教育,中西方文化差异非常大,家长有时也在这种差异中进退维谷,无所适从。

楼主的行为是完全错误的,也违反了这里的法律,他为此正在付出沉重的代价。但是他的行为跟虐待还沾不上边,而且他已经在积极地寻找解决的办法,还不忘记分担家庭责任,我觉得对这样一个父亲,大家不应该太苛求,是人都会犯错误,难道犯了错就不允许改正吗?尤其以加拿大司法体系为荣的,应该知道其中很重要的一点就是,everybody deserves second chance。
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无论对于同情或者不同情本人的朋友,我都感谢您们的发言。我真的需要有经验的或者熟悉法律程序的朋友,告诉我以后怎么走。

我找过3个华人律师以及3-4个西人律师。除了第一个华人律师说的太玄乎,竟然说我为什么要卖了自己,在警察面前说实话。后来在第一次去法庭,我看到缩写版本的警察报告,说孩子一下子就承认...
不熟悉法律程序,只能给点微不足道的建议。

1。在法庭的restraining order没有撤销以前,不要试图接近女儿,任何疏忽被prosecutor逮到,你又多个藐视法庭的罪名

2。如果可以,应该请你太太代为转告女儿,爸爸正式向她道歉,这个我觉得是必要的

3。你太太的态度很关键,检控双方都应该会找你太太interview,所以要跟她沟通好,还有你的朋友,同事都应该可以证明你是个尽责的丈夫和父亲,这次的事情是个意外

4。认罪估计是肯定的,证据确凿,但是这里任何case都可以bargain,说白了就是大事化小,小事化了,这取决于你的律师,所以找个可靠的律师还是必要的。

其它的也说不出来啥了,祝你们好运,早日团圆。
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旧 Sep 24th, 2009, 01:37   只看该作者   #54
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不熟悉法律程序,只能给点微不足道的建议。

1。在法庭的restraining order没有撤销以前,不要试图接近女儿,任何疏忽被prosecutor逮到,你又多个藐视法庭的罪名

2。如果可以,应该请你太太代为转告女儿,爸爸正式向她道歉,这个我觉得是必要的

3。你太太的态度很关键,...
你已经很熟悉了,看样子是很有经验了
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旧 Sep 24th, 2009, 01:48   只看该作者   #55
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你的理解有点点偏,我们说的是,因为各种原因被家长责骂甚至打几下是成长的一部份(至少对我们这一代人来说),并不是说着打骂孩子是教育的一部份。

作为移民,在很多事情上都需要时间慢慢适应,尤其是子女教育,中西方文化差异非常大,家长有时也在这种差异中进退维谷,无所适从。

楼主的行为是完全错误的,...
你要是他老婆就好了!
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不允许了已经
Parents can spank children using reasonable force, high court rules
Parents shouldn't face criminal charges for every little smack delivered to a child's bottom, says the Supreme Court of Canada. But teachers would be risking an assault conviction if they try the same thing in a classroom.
Canadian Press, January 30

Canada's Top Court Upholds Parents' Right to Spank
Canadian parents can continue to spank their children, but only if they are not infants or teens, the Supreme Court ruled on Friday.
Reuters, January 30

Range of Canadians give bottom line on SCOC backing of so-called spanking law
Friday's Supreme Court of Canada ruling upholding the so-called spanking law drew a flood of reaction from everyone from young people to grandparents.
Canadian Press, January 30

Spare Us the "Spare the Rod"
Canada tries to sort out the good spankings from the bad.
Dahlia Lithwick, Slate.com, January 30

High court backs right to spank
Parents can strike children only if they use 'minor corrective force' of 'a trifling nature'
National Post, January 31

Corporal punishment deep rooted
The corporal punishment of children is so widespread and so deeply rooted in history that spanking might be called the slap heard 'round the world.
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到底还行不行了?以上内容是截自49楼提供的链接里,看起来是可以打孩子pp的,只是不知道是什么年代的事情,难道现在过期了?
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旧 Sep 24th, 2009, 02:04   只看该作者   #57
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到底还行不行了?以上内容是截自49楼提供的链接里,看起来是可以打孩子pp的,只是不知道是什么年代的事情,难道现在过期了?...
还惦记着呢,就是说要是可以打就尽量打吧?
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还惦记着呢,就是说要是可以打就尽量打吧?


我们家那个就是希望我打她,越打她跟我越亲(过后)。好像很懂“打是亲。。。”的道理。

唉,算了,不说了。怕刺激楼主。很同情楼主,希望他能早日领回孩子。
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能不能打孩子,各省应该有指引的。俺这旮旯这里可以打,但不能用工具,不能打出伤痕。
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啥时候该打呢?
孩子淘气到底是孩子该打还是父母该打呢?

你要么是没做父母,要么是运气好。
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