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旧 Jan 3rd, 2008, 12:27     #1
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默认 穷人也要买RRSP 吗.

今年打税打的不多,不打算买了
但是听人说,没钱借钱也要买rrsp,
为什么呢.还等着政府退税呢.
没钱政府还要收那么多税吗??
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旧 Jan 3rd, 2008, 12:31   只看该作者   #2
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银行有RRSP的短期贷款,尽量贷一点去买,当然看你收入高低,能退多少钱了。

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旧 Jan 3rd, 2008, 12:32   只看该作者   #3
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今年打税打的不多,不打算买了
但是听人说,没钱借钱也要买rrsp,
为什么呢.还等着政府退税呢.
没钱政府还要收那么多税吗??
As a general rule, don't buy RSP if your income is lower than 40,000.
on the other hand ,however, if you want to buy a house soon, the better you buy RSP,as you could use that later when you buy a house.
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旧 Jan 3rd, 2008, 12:48   只看该作者   #4
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if you want to buy a house soon, the better you buy RSP,as you could use that later when you buy a house....
RRSP is from your income BEFORE tax. If your income is so low that you don't have to pay much income tax, there is not much difference between income BEFORE and AFTER tax.

On the other hand, the negative aspect of using RRSP to buy a home is that you have to pay back the borrowed amount RRSP in 15 years.

So, RRSP did not save you much income tax at first place, and become a burden later after home purchasing. Not a good plan.
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旧 Jan 3rd, 2008, 12:58   只看该作者   #5
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初次买房那个政策还是要尽量用,相当于最高2万无息贷款。想象一下,如果借2万Mortgage,就算年利5%,15年每年还1/15本金,生成的利息,是可观的数字。如果有RSP额度,初次买房尽量用,省点是点。
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旧 Jan 5th, 2008, 05:02   只看该作者   #6
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初次买房买RRSP可以等于无息贷款,看不懂,不知道楼上的是否可以解释一下.
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旧 Jan 5th, 2008, 14:17   只看该作者   #7
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初次买房买RRSP可以等于无息贷款,看不懂,不知道楼上的是否可以解释一下.
初次买房每人可以用20000块RRSP付DOWNPAYMENT,拿出来是不算作当年你的INCOME的,所以不用交税,但是必须分12还回RRSP帐户里。夫妻两人的话就是4万,如果一方供不满,另一方还可以用他的额度给她供,当然供的钱算作对方的财产了。
优点是当你存RRSP的时候,会从你的INCOME税额里面扣除,这样你当年的退税就多,但是拿出来买房却不用付INCOME的税,所以很合算的,第一次买房要尽量用。
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不过贷款去买就不值了吧?

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不过贷款去买就不值了吧?
不一定哦。
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旧 Jan 5th, 2008, 15:24   只看该作者   #10
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3楼老狼说的 4w 是全家总共还是其中一个人?

关于“贷款”我是这样理解的:估计你在新的年度收入会很高,但4月底报税截止之前正好手头上周转不过来,就先“贷款”把 RSP买了,四月过后收入到手再把贷款还上。

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旧 Jan 5th, 2008, 16:03   只看该作者   #11
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3楼老狼说的 4w 是全家总共还是其中一个人?

关于“贷款”我是这样理解的:估计你在新的年度收入会很高,但4月底报税截止之前正好手头上周转不过来,就先“贷款”把 RSP买了,四月过后收入到手再把贷款还上。
你说得很正确。

这个我觉得还是看自己对未来的预期。 如果你认为2、3年后, 你年薪能上一个台阶, 那你就等到以后买。 如果你认为未来变动不大, 现在如果有钱就现在买好了。

举个例子。 如果你现在收入在3万5以下(3万5以上是另一个税率, 我说3万5只是举例, 每年这个临界数都不同)。 而且未来5年或者10年, 你觉得都不可能超过这个数, 你就现在买吧。

如果你现在大于3万5, 但是小于7万2, 同样也不能预期未来会超过7万2, 那就现在买了算了。

因为你的rrsp是直接从total income中扣减, 工资越高, 越合算。 是否把rrsp的额度留到以后工资高的时候用, 完全取决于你自己。而且所谓工资也是分段的, 你收入4万和收入7万, rrsp逃掉的税钱是一样的。
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3楼老狼说的 4w 是全家总共还是其中一个人?

关于“贷款”我是这样理解的:估计你在新的年度收入会很高,但4月底报税截止之前正好手头上周转不过来,就先“贷款”把 RSP买了,四月过后收入到手再把贷款还上。
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买多少合适呢?
去年交了一笔钱给政府补税了.今年是不是买同样价钱的RRSP就不用交这么多钱给政府了呢?
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买多少合适呢?
去年交了一笔钱给政府补税了.今年是不是买同样价钱的RRSP就不用交这么多钱给政府了呢?
上面老狼同学 说了 4w这个数,你可以用收入减去 4w去买RRSP,没错~~~我是这么猜的

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因为你的rrsp是直接从total income中扣减, 工资越高, 越合算。 是否把rrsp的额度留到以后工资高的时候用, 完全取决于你自己。而且所谓工资也是分段的, 你收入4万和收入7万, rrsp逃掉的税钱是一样的
4万的时候买,逃掉的税是25%,7万的时候买,逃掉的税是36%,怎么可能一样呢?
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关于“贷款”我是这样理解的:估计你在新的年度收入会很高,但4月底报税截止之前正好手头上周转不过来,就先“贷款”把 RSP买了,四月过后收入到手再把贷款还上。
别人是问收入低要不要买,你自作多情了一点儿吧?
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别人是问收入低要不要买,你自作多情了一点儿吧?
的确本人今年收入不高, 所以不打算买了, 所以才贴出来.

还有,就算想买,几千快钱还是出的起的(rrsp限额之内的钱也不多啊)。不用贷款这么麻烦吧。
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4万的时候买,逃掉的税是25%,7万的时候买,逃掉的税是36%,怎么可能一样呢?
这个区间在安省好象是一个税率吧
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其实讨论RRSP该不该卖的问题,主要是比较你现在收入和退休后收入情况

现在将钱放入RRSP会省出来税,但退休后从RRSP里取钱的时候要交税,这就存在个取舍问题。如果你预期退休后的收入会比现在高出很多,现在往RRSP里存钱可能就不大合适。

虽然每个人的情况不同,但在安省,一般认为收入在35,000以下的就不必做RRSP投资。Morningstar.ca里有文章介绍过一些专家的研究,大体就是这个意见。
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