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旧 May 18th, 2009, 12:43   只看该作者   #41
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偶脚着流行音乐很容易从歌词或旋律中找到共鸣。
关键还是流行的好听、悦耳。

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旧 May 18th, 2009, 20:47   只看该作者   #42
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关键还是流行的好听、悦耳。
Unfortunately, that is not true. I found a lot of pop music to be trite and plain boring.

人品差
没文化
伪小资
行为猥琐
性格恶劣
思想不纯洁
脑子有问题
从不听音乐
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旧 May 18th, 2009, 21:20   只看该作者   #43
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流行乐和古典乐的区别就象windows和dos的区别
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 00:41   只看该作者   #44
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流行乐和古典乐的区别就象windows和dos的区别
好像不是很恰当, 一部流行音乐的作品的演出时间都比较短
古典音乐的作品, 通常都比较长, 1-4小时的都有
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 00:41   只看该作者   #45
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关键还是流行的好听、悦耳。
这可因人而异。。。
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 00:43   只看该作者   #46
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不止10个了
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 00:45   只看该作者   #47
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这样讲述古典音乐的方式是我这样的乐盲最喜欢听的

请开讲
对李斯特的作品, 我是最想听, 又最不赶听的,,,,
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 00:47   只看该作者   #48
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喜欢贝多分的"命运","田园"等,也喜欢怕格尼尼,但不知道算不算古典.
我不敢说不算
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 01:24   只看该作者   #49
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容我选个良辰吉日。。。
谢谢并頂一下本贴
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 01:36   只看该作者   #50
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Unfortunately, that is not true. I found a lot of pop music to be trite and plain boring.
好听的音乐和boring的音乐

就这么简单
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旧 May 19th, 2009, 08:58   只看该作者   #51
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对李斯特的作品, 我是最想听, 又最不赶听的,,,,
您老一定要全面的讲一讲,为啥?
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Unfortunately, that is not true. I found a lot of pop music to be trite and plain boring.
我的感觉正相反,大多数古典音乐,岂止是boring,简直是心烦。不信,你在商场放交响乐试试营业额就知道了。

我曾醉心研究古典音乐很多年,最后跟沉溺于周易和传统武术一样,最后终于解脱出来,能够客观的去看这些东西了:这些东西的实际价值,即使有,同社会很多人认同的差距也很大,吹嘘的东西多。花大力气去研究对人类来说,得不偿失。

我认为,大多数人对古典音乐的爱好,主要是因为主流(应该是上流)意识的影响,而不是直觉和真心。主要并非来源于音乐本身的内在欣赏价值,而是上流和文学的玄玄乎呼的吹嘘。一句话:叶公好龙罢了。
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不信,你在商场放交响乐试试营业额就知道了。
The reason is clear enough. Public places such as shopping mall is never the ideal place to enjoy such music.
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我曾醉心研究古典音乐很多年,最后跟沉溺于周易和传统武术一样,最后终于解脱出来,能够客观的去看这些东西了:这些东西的实际价值,即使有,同社会很多人认同的差距也很大,吹嘘的东西多。花大力气去研究对人类来说,得不偿失。

我认为,大多数人对古典音乐的爱好,主要是因为主流(应该是上流)意识的影响,而不是直觉和真心。主要并非来源于音乐本身的内在欣赏价值,而是上流和文学的玄玄乎呼的吹嘘。一句话:叶公好龙罢了。
That is true to some degree. However, classical music did not earn its place in history because there's a whole bunch of cult followings 吹嘘ing on its quality, like there is in popular music. That type of hype and publicity is often associated with the image of pop singers.

In the case of classical music, there have to be qualities inherent in the music that shine through from within. Music like this demands listeners' attention in order for its qualities to be fully appreciated.

Because classical music is not your everyday sing-along, hummable melodies which you can enjoy while you are waiting for the bus or while you are taking a shower. Music written by Mahler, Wagner, or Bach was never intended for such listening modes.

Appreciation of classical music corresponds to intelligent listening or informed listening. It requires an extra ounce of effort from the listener, and, sometimes, even self-education. Whereas appreciation of pop music corresponds to a more casual and relaxed listening mode, and is not demanding on the listener's capability.

... hope that makes sense.
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我曾醉心研究古典音乐很多年,最后跟沉溺于周易和传统武术一样,最后终于解脱出来,
I don't know about 周易 and 传统武术, but anyone who had invested time and effort for 很多年 should have a better grasp of the value and beauty of classical music, unless if you were somehow misled. Or maybe you are the type of people who just don't GET it.

Not all classical music is good music; but a lot of it is very good.

I can't say more than that, because I'm gonna sound like TV commercials.
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当然爱听了,我的硬盘里就存有不少呢。俺虽是一介土老冒,但就是觉得:那些古典乐中的经典,即使过一万年,还是经典。这其中当然少不了楼主您的网名喽。
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当然爱听了,我的硬盘里就存有不少呢。俺虽是一介土老冒,但就是觉得:那些古典乐中的经典,即使过一万年,还是经典。这其中当然少不了楼主您的网名喽。
好, 喜欢听什么, 最喜欢听什么, 好好通通气,,,

柴克夫斯基的喜欢什么》 芭蕾, 交响曲, 还是协奏曲,。。
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问一下:在那儿可以下载或买碟?谢谢先!听这些能让我心情平和很多.
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问一下:在那儿可以下载或买碟?谢谢先!听这些能让我心情平和很多.
通常很多人喜欢的的是电驴下,

买CD的地方, 如果是在多伦多, 我就在hmv 买。

网上也可以试一试 比如 http://www.jpc.de
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