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旧 Jun 17th, 2007, 17:08     #1
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旧 Jun 20th, 2007, 13:03     #2
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老Z,按照我的理解,色彩空间指的是一个系列的definition,也就是对色彩数据的定义。有些色彩空间宽些,就是它宮.

RGB和sRGB的区别:

sRGB is a RGB color space proposed by HP and Microsoft because it approximates the color gamut of the most common computer display devices. it has become the standard color space for displaying images on the internet.

Adobe RGB 1998 was designed (by Adobe Systems, Inc.) to encompass most of the colors achievable on CMYK printers。

结论:

if your printer is capable of producing output in a color space larger than sRGB, there is no reason to hobble your work by limiting output to the small sRGB gamut. If you do, you'll lose the saturated cyans and greens that can make your prints stand out.

问题是我们平时外出打印用的是不是CMYK打印机?

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旧 Jun 20th, 2007, 13:29     #3
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如果我们平时外出打印用的是CMYK打印机的话,照片就应该在Adobe RGB 1998 中PS和存档。
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旧 Jun 20th, 2007, 13:43     #4
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输出(打印)的时候,还有一个要考虑的东西,就是打印机怎么诠释你给色彩,这就是所谓的打印机的Profile,有很宮.
我认为:
1。如果他们用的打印机的profile和CMYK很相近的话,你的照片首先应该在Adobe RGB 1998 中PS和存档。
2。我也试着玩过PS的Soft Proofing,结果也是暗淡的色彩(只是在显示屏上看,没试过打印),还不太明白这样做的好处。
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旧 Jun 20th, 2007, 14:02     #5
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我有点点不同意见,Adobe RGB只是一个足够宽的色彩空间,如果知道用CMYK的话,光确保在Adobe RGB下面处理是不够的〮..
sRGB的approximates the color gamut of the most common computer display devices,我觉得显示器的Profile应该是和sRGB差不多的。

所以,work flow就应该:
1。open image, select "Use the embedded profile" in a profile mismatch dialog.
2. To tell Photoshop how to interpret the image colors, assign your scanner or camera profile to the image (Image→Mode→Assign Profile).
3. Convert the image to a suitable editing color space. If you don't have other preferences, Adobe RGB is a reasonable choice.
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旧 Jun 20th, 2007, 14:17     #6
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我同意应该一律在最宽的色彩空间里干活存档。但对于送去不同的地方打印应该需要不同版本的处理。

但这里牮..
同意对于送去不同的地方打印应该需要不同版本的处理。
我的理解是用monitor的Profile后,当你在rgb space里ps, 你所看到的就是翻译后的rgb空间里的色彩。

costco的icc file带有一个时间的后缀, 通常只有几个月时间old.
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看上去是对的,但根本的问题是,不管一台显示器是调过的,或者没有调过的,怎么通过它来实施对图片的编辑。...
这点我也不确定,所有的观点so far是理论上的,需要用实践来检验,有什么好的方法可以比较检验呢?
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另外,我觉得现在的显示器的显示能力要绝对高于sRGB的色彩表现范围,应该接近Adobe RGB的色彩表现范围,如果这丮..
我觉得所有的色彩问题影响到2各方面,1。电脑上的显示, 2。印出来的片子。
电脑上的显示我觉的不是很bother me.
印出来的片子是关键,有些好,有些差的。

什么时候能把这一关节打通了,拍,ps和最后出片就会上一个大台阶,效果可能远远好于在器材上砸钱 !
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旧 Jun 21st, 2007, 16:41     #9
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这就是现在我痛的地方。

早痛早成佛。

摄影从拍摄到输出,是整个一个系统,我们以前仅沉醉于某些环节上䮮.
Monitor的色彩空间和sRGB很接近,看下图:

上面的一个是Monitor的色彩空间,下面的是同一张图用了Soft Proofing 的sRGB
http://i18.tinypic.com/5zgy1bo.jpg

再来看这张,
上面的一个是Monitor的色彩空间,下面的是同一张图用了Soft Proofing 的 costco的icc

costco 用的是Fuji Frontier and Noritsu digital printers,和photolab, walmart 是同一类型的,由此图看来该类型的 printer 的色彩空间比Monitor的要小不少,所以,印出来比较不鲜艳也就不奇怪了。

http://i15.tinypic.com/63rwqr6.jpg

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老周,那里可以找到你用的vistek的icc, 我可以down下来比一下。
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