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旧 Dec 17th, 2008, 11:40     #1
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同好同好,前几天刚入了720p的投影。兄弟的音响设备不错,不过你的次时代功放有点大材小用啊,莫非兄弟已经入了1.3的声卡了?

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旧 Dec 17th, 2008, 21:23     #2
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舍不得花200块去买华硕那块声卡。
htpc的方案我用的是Ati4350的显卡,带原生hdmi1.3接口,目前的软件已经可以输出LPCM7.1,将来HD音频的支持或许也说不定
楼上入的是哪个720p的投影?
是直通吗?能搞定7.1已经很不错了,羡慕你的音响设备

投影是前段时间ncix特价的optoma hd70,全下来780,希望在第一次幻灯泡之前1080p能降价
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旧 Dec 17th, 2008, 21:44     #3
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花钱的不是音箱器材。我很羡慕你有地方打投影
5年前买第一台投影,还是480p,花的钱差不多是你现在买720p的两倍,到现在原装灯泡还好好的,400小时不到。1080p降到1k以下不用花5年时间,快的话也就1、2年吧
前段时间benq的w5000促销,mir以后是1999,咬住牙没有买,随便买了一个720p的,现在心里怪怪的,不知道是心理作用还是怎么回事,总觉得画面不是很好,色彩没有我的LCD电视那么鲜艳,也不知道是不是DLP的都这样

兄弟给推荐一套适合看电影的箱子吧,我耳朵比较糙,不需要太好的
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你买LCD的投影又会遗憾黑色沉不下去。当年Optoma h30a在480p这个年代可是响当当的色彩好,我想现在都720p了,只会更好不会更差。你试着调下色彩曲线吧。当然,最重要的是把房间调暗。

看电影功放比箱子重要。中置比其它箱子重要。耳朵比较糙,不需要太好的潜台词是不是想先整套便宜的玩玩?其...
我的投影室已经是相当的黑了,关了灯伸手不见五指啊,四面墙和天花板都被我刷黑了。

总觉得我有箱子人声很烂,干巴巴的,不知道是先换中置啊,还是先换功放啊,有没有便宜的次世代功放啊,1000多一个功放实在弄不起
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投影室5m x 3m

正考虑换个功放,帮忙看看哪个好一点?

pioneer vsx-1018ah-k

yamaha htr-6160

harman kardon avr254

onkyo tx-sr606

denon AVR-789

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相信这几个入门级的次时代功放价位是差不多的。同等价位,我一般会选推力大的。里面pioneer vsx-1018ah-k的标称功率最大,但也可能缩水最多。按照一贯的说法,denon的推力会好点,另外harman kardon虽然标称只有65W,但却是最实在的。
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我现在用的是JBL的一套箱子,前置是两个MR26,中置和环绕都是Flix1。

在AVS上看了一圈,推荐1018和789的比较多。本来我是很倾向HK的功放,但是AVS上是恶评如潮啊,尤其是跟PS3有严重的兼容性问题。

还要请教”视频整合倍线功能,前级输出端子,声场自动校正“这些英文怎么说啊,对不上号啊
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视频整合倍线是 repeating/upconverting 或者是 repeating/upscaling,就是可以将标清480i,480p的信号转换成720p、1080i或者1080p输出到显示设备,同时可以分配不同的音频输入。比如除了HDMI送视音频,还可以组合HDMI送视频,光纤送音频等等。...
忘了说了,炮是sony的SAW2500

search了一圈,看来只能选择pioneer 1018了,denon 789没有preamp output

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要前级干嘛?

要玩HIFI才需要前级,那要前后级分开的功放。玩AV,前级那玩意就是摆设。
本人音响方面的知识几乎为零,我不知道前级后级是干嘛用的,但是denon789和pioneer1018价格几乎一样,有总比没有好吧
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前级是信号捡拾和处理,例如那些DSP处理,环绕声道解码等等是在前级,后级是真正的功率放大,用功放管来放大电流以便驱动喇叭。AV功放上留出来的前级端子就是让你再另外接后级功放,因为也许你觉得本机的后级功放不够好?

正因为价格是一样的,才更没必要啊。前级输出回路是需要花钱的,在这没用的功能上花了钱...
不对吧,如果按你说的前级是解码的,那哪个功放没有前级啊,现在最基本的都带dts解码了吧。

流浪家族说的是preamp output,按我的理解就是比如pioneer 1018有preamp output,那就可以再接一个后级单独放大,把pioneer 1018只当做前级解码使用,不知道是不是这个意思

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应该说一个整个的正常工作的功放都是有前级的。前后级分开的高级分体式功放单是前级或是单是后级都没办法正常工作。

你以为流浪汉说的PREAMP OUTPUT什么高级功能吗?不就是个前级的输出端子吗?

前级输出一个后级输入的标准电压而已,并没有大电流,无法驱动喇叭,喇叭需要大电流来驱动,音圈是...
受教了,现在终于对功放有个大概的认识了。

我是比较属于爱看片子的人,尤其是旧片,就是喜欢反复看,比如die hard每部都看了5遍以上,而且我下载的片子必定是我看过的,没看过只好坏的片子我基本不下,除非有人推荐,比如我现在一共有大概2.5T的片子外加7,8张蓝光,每部至少都看过3遍。可惜现在的电影院也不能点播,而且9块多一场电影是很便宜,但是要反复看就贵了,我又是一个喜欢反复看片子的人。不理解别人的爱好可以,冷嘲热讽就有点没劲了
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我也想问这个,估计是比主流产品差一个档次的好意思,哈哈
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流浪先生可不可以给点意见。
正在申请预算。
这两款是“次世代”吧,看前面的意思,次世代就是好的东东。
冒充专家给你回答下,如果你不知道次时代是什么意思说明你没有这个需求,不需要非要买次时代的功放

我个人是不会选择hr254,因为很多人反应跟ps3有兼容问题。昨天刚买了denon 789,如果能抢到1018就把789退了,这是我个人的选择
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请问一下Denon 789能不能代替Rogers的Digital Box? 也就是说Cabel同轴直接连到Denon 789就可以了? 谢谢.
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我也收了一套,过几天去吧789退了,pioneer这个比789重不少
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换了中置,没法比较了。反正1018+新中置比789+老中置要好太多了,感觉声音出来了,以前的总感觉像闷在里面一样

好像MCACC可以单独设置低音
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初具规模了,十分感谢“流浪家族”的热心帮助和不厌其烦的解答,特地来兽一下成果

显示设备:Optoma HD70 720p DLP Projector + 100“投影幕

功放:Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K

主音箱:Energy C-500 X 2

中置:JBL EC35 X 1

环绕:JBL MR26 X 2

后环绕:JBL Flix1 X 2

低音炮:SONY SAW2500 (有跟没有一样)

播放器1: HTPC with 7.1ch HDMI 1.3a output

播放器2: SONY PS3

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设备不好,主要是没钱,就算是抛砖引玉。猛击大图!

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旧 Feb 24th, 2009, 14:07     #18
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我是投到幕上了,不是墙啊
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房间暂时是折腾不了了
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360基本是尘封已久了,下载的游戏太多了,玩不过来,所幸就不玩了
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