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旧 Sep 11th, 2007, 11:22   只看该作者   #61
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http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2007-01-24/09421351653.shtml

http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2007-08-30/0629407067.shtml

http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2007-01-24/0942227803.shtml

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eeprom芯片,写入速度都慢, 和内存不同,这些eeprom write的速度比read速度慢多了。

flash和硬盘差距不小。

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旧 Sep 11th, 2007, 11:30   只看该作者   #62
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几年前我就预测过LCD电视机将会彻底打败等离子电视,原因很简单:
LCD在作电视之前就被大规模使用:数码相机,手机,MP3, 电脑等,因此很容易用低端产品养高端产品,而等离子则根本没有办法这样做,尽管在大屏幕上有一些优势,但随着时间推移必死。

这个道理也适用与Flash与移动硬盘的竞争。
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旧 Sep 12th, 2007, 16:02   只看该作者   #63
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flash的原理,是把电荷打到硅中,靠二氧化硅膜做绝缘,保持电压,放完电记忆也就完了,很怀念以前的熔断式prom

硬盘的原理,是磁性,不用多讲了。论可靠性,磁性的还好一点

但真论可靠持久,那个都不如光介质,物理本性决定的
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旧 Sep 12th, 2007, 16:50   只看该作者   #64
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http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2007-01-24/09421351653.shtml

http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2007-08-30/0629407067.shtml

http://tech....
所有文章都在说,flash的写入速度慢,这个技术难题现在还没有突破。
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旧 Sep 12th, 2007, 17:05   只看该作者   #65
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所有文章都在说,flash的写入速度慢,这个技术难题现在还没有突破。
这个问题是解决不了的,因为flash的原理和eeprom一样,都是靠电场的击穿效应,把电荷打入SiO2膜下的硅层里。区别是eeprom是按每个byte打入,flash是按block。写入擦除都慢,但flash比eeprom看起来要快得多。

提高速度,就要减少膜厚度,但会增加漏电,减少存储时效寿命。所以各位千万不要用flash做永久储存媒介,你一定会后悔的。
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旧 Sep 13th, 2007, 10:40   只看该作者   #66
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用flash做的硬盘已经用在很多领域了,叫做固态硬盘。看看这个消息,416G 100MB/s的大容量产品新闻。
http://digi.163.com/07/0913/05/3O8D12Q4001628BV.html

一般flash成本较高,一般工业、医疗和军用的应用比较多。民用的么,小容量的flash经常用在主板的BIOS上。
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旧 Sep 13th, 2007, 11:16   只看该作者   #67
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用flash做的硬盘已经用在很多领域了,叫做固态硬盘。看看这个消息,416G 100MB/s的大容量产品新闻。
http://digi.163.com/07/0913/05/3O8D12Q4001628BV.html

一般flash成本较高,一般工业、医疗和军用的应用比较多。民用的么,小容量...
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旧 Sep 13th, 2007, 11:49   只看该作者   #68
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我听说过ATM机,就是用flash硬盘,装个windows, 在挂个程序, 反正不要求速度,也不保持什么数据,比较理想。

家用flash硬盘还有很长的路要走。
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旧 Sep 13th, 2007, 14:31   只看该作者   #70
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我听说过ATM机,就是用flash硬盘,装个windows, 在挂个程序, 反正不要求速度,也不保持什么数据,比较理想。

家用flash硬盘还有很长的路要走。
所有embedded系统,固件都在flash里,一般的data储存也可以放里面。其实只要不擦写,读的速度还是相当快的。
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