Dec 25th, 2006, 23:28
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 老羊收入多少? 说出来让大家听听? |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 01:34
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找来统计数据看看 http://www.computerjobs.com/salary20...e&emptype=perm 从时间上看,Full-time的工作1年经验的新人收入是54k，15年以上工作的收入是65k，15年内增加20％左右。Contractor一年经验的是$40,15年经验的是$81,增加约100%.整体看，Contractor的收入就是比较高。 大体总结一下： 1。Full-time 工作压力小，自身能力增长缓慢。Contractor更加注意增长个人能力。就象家兔子跑不过野兔子一样。 2。Contractor换过更多的老板，更会对自己的薪金讨价还价 3。Full-time工作中包含了很多低技术含量的工作，拉低了平均值。同种类型工作在一年经验的时候差别可能就是一点税钱，以后差别变大应该是不争的事实。 4。这是2000年美国的数据，考虑通货膨胀及经济因素，现在收入应该高出一些。 
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Dec 26th, 2006, 11:30
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If an agency bill client 120/H, the highest they can give to you is 60/H. This is a business. They have to have money to keep business going. They have been in business for many years. Here is not China. Everyone earn money for a short period. Then, go somewhere else. That's why Chinese phonecard, Chinese supermarket always bankrupt. If you get a permenant job. It's the same thing. You fill up timesheet to bill client 120/H. But you only get 30/H. You can ask for 100/H. The only result is, you get 0 or agency bankrupt. Client knows everything. But they will not give the project to you. They know it will be you that earn 60/H. But they will not give project to you instead of agency. You will leave them after the project finish. But agency will not leave away. Your colleague in the contract can only find for you another agency. That's the same as you can find for yourself. Your job totally depend on the market. If there is a day that someone find a end client. They will not give you 120/H. But only 60/H. They're going to earn the other 60/H. You should learn what technical resource earn, not waht business earn. But you can keep dreaming on. It looks good to you. |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 19:29
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另外, 10/H的人可以20/H 再 30/H再40/H再50/H再60/H再70/H再80/H一步一步走上去. 那个120/H的人也不是生下来就挣120/H, 造梦专家, 是你太缺乏想象力了吧? 至于, 我是能挣10/H还是20/H 还是 30/H还是40/H, 哪完全是我自己经营自己的问题, 如果我没本事只能挣10/H, 并不能因此, 证明人家120/H没有, 不可能. 你们一味的否认不过就是想证明自己已经出人头地了, 要是承认天外有天, 不就是承认自己不行嘛, 其实和我一点关系都没有, 拼命挤兑我的目的不就是,想说:"没人能挣80/H, 120/H更是不可能. 我现在能挣60/H就是人尖了, 大家都明白." 你是人尖, 你已经达到了我一辈子都达不到的顶峰, 我郑重否认, Canada没有人能挣80/H, 120/H更是胡说八道, lz说接到80/Hoffer完全是造谣, 羞辱我们的智力, 满意了老杨? 
此帖于 Dec 26th, 2006 20:02 被 welcomeback 编辑。 |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 20:55
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What I said is, your logic is wrong. You think agent bill client 120/H. You're going to earn 120/H. I do know some one get contract directly from client. But they are no longer coding. Just re-contract to other people. Real life didn't follow what you dream here. That's why I ask you how much you earn. You know some one earn 120/H. Then you begin to imagine what will be at that time, is it right? You will reach there step by step, is it right? I never dream I can earn 80/H. How do I do at that time. What is my life now is my life. Where comes my dream? |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 22:10
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我前面说了, 作短期contract有好处的, 例如, 我和 老杨, loen专接短期contract, 项目开高薪完全有可能, 3个月的项目,这个项目完了, 要作下一个, 假设, 我没下个项目, 可是, 老杨你手头有, 这个项目缺个我擅长领域的人, 你就可以推荐我呀, 又过了3个月, 我手里也来项目了, 我推荐你老杨作你擅长的那块事. 假设咱们一伙有10个常常合作的人........入门你靠agent, 打出天下了自己注册一个公司,有嘛不行的?当然,短期工,缺点, 如果你技术不行, 就是老杨说的你只有20块的水平, 你想上? 别人也不答应呀, 同行不推荐你, 吃上顿没下顿, 结论, 不是高手,就找个长点的contract干吧. (对了, 对了, 这都是我YY出来的, 不信的人不用认真啊, 呵呵, 看来我的想象力满丰富的) 我知道你们就是执著于跟一家公司签个1年合同的contractor到底挣多少钱 , 雇主打着算盘一分一分的算到底该给你多少钱.对吧? 前面我提到的PM, 不是短期的, 所以,说高人不是没有. 我看老杨满嘴E文, 你可以试试做个PM, 能说会道就行呀, 前面有榜样, 能挣多少钱就看你自己的福分和能力了. 至于, 80/H高不高, 你们追着前面作payroll的人去问吧? 把你自己的专业告诉人家, 让人家给你评估一下你的专业到底能挣多少钱, 咱们讨论半天可能根本就不是在一个领域的工作的, 说多了也无意义, 就像,洗碗, 端盘子, 切菜, 炒菜, 都是饮食业, 你能说都一个工资标准嘛? |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 22:27
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这是什么逻辑? 我了解的情况, 我转告大家, 就向我知道bill gates的财富一样, 我要是提一下bill gates就是imagination? 就是我希望有一天我也能成bill gates? 说" bill gates fake" 才和老杨对路, ok, bill gates fake, 120/H fake, 80/H fake, 60/H fake 40/H fake 20/H fake, 10/H fake, 因为, 我没工作, 连省规定的最低工资一样是fake |
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Dec 26th, 2006, 22:30
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When you go to Canadian Tire to fix your car, you pay 50/H labor. What it is ? It's salary and profit. Talking to you really hard. If you think a person earn 120/H from step by step, you're cpmpletely wrong. People only teach prime school student in that way. |
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