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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:21   只看该作者   #41
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自己还要有准备, 法庭的翻译水平有限. 如果在你开庭那天见到你的翻译, 你最好跟你他沟通沟通.
开庭那天还来得及和翻译充分沟通吗?
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:24   只看该作者   #42
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1, 你就说实际情况:当时时速就是105km/小时左右。没有142。 警察应该没有证据说你是142km/小时。
2,咨询一下X-copper. 听说信誉很好的告票专家
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没找到X-copper的联系方式。能麻烦告知吗?
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:38   只看该作者   #43
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[QUOTE=samqyang]if you are very sure that you have 105km/h on your meter;
And given you said that there is a curve before you met the cops, I belive you can address this to the court; you can make a few photos for that curve, and explaining that there is no way you can reach that 142 at that curve during the night and you don't have cat eye-sight; (by the way, did you argue with the cop at the scene, usually they won't give you a 142 KM/H if you are really under (120KM/H), you said 105)

我当时看到summons上写的142km/h,马上就对她说:“It is impossible, I didn't drive so fast!”.可没有用,她说看到我的表上显示141km/h。可没给我出示任何证据,如ladar unit。我当时到那个女警车旁,好象就她一个人在车上,她如何一个人开车,同时又用ladar unit测速度呢(通常应该是两个人一起)。另:在她把我拦下后10多分钟,从前面来了另一步警车,呆了一会又走了。关键我也是一个人,没证人证明我当时开105km/h,法官几乎就是相信警察。警察说我开200km/h,法官也会信? 法庭上该讲究证据,警察该拿出我开142km/h的证据,而不是她在纸上写那么多就是那么多吧?!
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:47   只看该作者   #44
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默认 非常感谢!!!可。。。

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自己研读这个连接的内容,从头到尾仔细看 http://www.magma.ca/~fyst/
我觉得安省80%以上的超速票子能打掉。
我也看了一下您提供的这个连接,很动心这样去做。可如果警察真能把所有你要求的东西提供了,(因为那些证据材料,警察应该提供不难,就是她用的是坏ladar unit,他们也可以换个好的show给你看,你如何知道哪个是她真正用的呢?)。那是否意味着只能接受over62km/h的处罚,连减轻的机会都没了呢?
若按gogo说的,如果plea guity, 还有减轻处罚的机会。?
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:54   只看该作者   #45
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默认 她不需要给你出示证据的,只要在法庭出示就可以了.

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if you are very sure that you have 105km/h on your meter;
And given you said that there is a curve before you met the cops, I belive you can address this to the court; you can make a few photos for that curve, and explaining that there is no way you can reach that 142 at that curve during the night and you don't have cat eye-sight; (by the way, did you argue with the cop at the scene, usually they won't give you a 142 KM/H if you are really under (120KM/H), you said 105)

我当时看到summons上写的142km/h,马上就对她说:“It is impossible, I didn't drive so fast!”.可没有用,她说看到我的表上显示141km/h。可没给我出示任何证据,如ladar unit。我当时到那个女警车旁,好象就她一个人在车上,她如何一个人开车,同时又用ladar unit测速度呢(通常应该是两个人一起)。另:在她把我拦下后10多分钟,从前面来了另一步警车,呆了一会又走了。关键我也是一个人,没证人证明我当时开105km/h,法官几乎就是相信警察。警察说我开200km/h,法官也会信? 法庭上该讲究证据,警察该拿出我开142km/h的证据,而不是她在纸上写那么多就是那么多吧?!
超速并不一定是你被抓的地方,可能是前边过来的地方,也可能是别的警察发现,汇报给她,她只是拦下你.麻烦不小啊.
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:54   只看该作者   #46
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默认 非常感谢!!!

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如果OPP到场, 并且出示测速雷达打印出来的照片, 就大大的麻烦了

1. 测速雷达需要几十秒钟的稳定时间才能测出速度数字, 换句话说, 你的车稳定在那个速度起码几十秒钟了

2. 测速雷达的精度不错, 除非路的周围有遮挡物或者旁边的LANE上有车干扰, 弯道有时候也会出现很大的测量误差

3. 如果你正在换线, 类似于弯道, 会出现很大的测量误差, 而且换线的瞬时超速其实是被允许的

本来不想助长楼主超速62公里的劣习, 但是谁让丑狗大叔心肠好呢............楼主好运吧, 上庭别乱说狗都不信的天外飞仙一般的理由, 诚恳的描述当时的场景, 然后一副委屈不知何处申冤的表情, 足够了
多谢丑狗大叔慈悲。 如果真自己出庭,当然是说实情,另外,前面有车超过我的车走了,是否可能警察测到别的车速,误认为是我的车呢?可我又如何证明前面的确实有车呢?
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 00:58   只看该作者   #47
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默认 再次感谢您的细心和关心!!!

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When you request a disclosure, be very specific of what you need. Just saying "please send me your evidence that you will be relying upon" will result in a lot of important information missing from the disclosure. If the prosecutor receives something like this, the most they would do is make a copy of the ticket (if you are lucky you may get both sides of the officer's copy) and send it to you, which you may already have. You should be very specific. Here is an example:

Both sides of the officer's copy of the ticket
Any statements of the accused made to the officer
Any statements of witnesses
Now even these are not enough. Since radar (or laser) was likely used in the citation, you have the right to know if the radar unit was tested and operated properly according to the police agency's own regulations. To find out more about the radar (or laser) unit, you have to make a public record request, or discovery, by citing the Freedom of Information Act (Ontario), sections 10 and 11, to get the information you want. Here is an example of the things you might need:
The make, model, and serial number of the radar/laser unit, and its owner's manual
The officer's training record specific to the said radar/laser unit
Any repair history of the unit
Records of any calibration equipment such as tuning forks (not applicable to laser)
Official procedure for radar/laser equipment testing and operator training standards

Write the request and send it to the police agency which you believe the citing officer belongs. For example if you were pulled over on Highway 401, an obvious candidate is the OPP. Find the closest detachment from where you were cited, and send your request to that detachment. Same as the case in requesting disclosure, you should do this well in advance to allow yourself lots of time to prepare for the trial. Be polite when you send the request, even though you might be angry because the officer was rude. If you nearly ran him down when he was trying to wave you over, of course he would be unhappy. However this is not the time to lodge a complaint no matter how right you think you are. On the other hand, be prepared to get intimidated in the process, since so few people fight their tickets, and among those who fight, a scarce number of them actually ask the police agency to provide them with information. I am not surprised if a lot of police departments have very sloppy records, or do a very poor job of organizing them. If a piece of record isn't provided, demand further explanation. It could be the record is lost, they don't keep such records, or they refuse to give it to you. Be persistent if they refuse. Whatever the excuse is, document it. If they say they never calibrate their tuning forks, have someone with authority sign an affidavit* certifying this fact. No fact is unimportant when it comes to trial time.
*affidavit: a written statement given under oath.

Two important things you should remember when you send your requests for disclosure and/or discovery:

First, make sure you send them by registered mail. This way they cannot claim that they have never received it because someone must sign for it. The major difference between disclosure requests and public records requests is the court may dismiss the charge when the prosecution fails to provide you with complete disclosure. If the police agency fails to give you the records you requested, the court won't dismiss the charge on that grounds. In other words, public record requests are separate from the trial.

If the prosecution fails to provide you with disclosure, or the disclosure is incomplete, you can send a second motion requesting the missing information. If it also fails after the second attempt you should bring out this issue to the justice of the peace on the day of the trial, and move for a dismissal due to a lack of disclosure. Remember to bring your receipt from the post office.
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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 11:03   只看该作者   #48
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多谢丑狗大叔慈悲。 如果真自己出庭,当然是说实情,另外,前面有车超过我的车走了,是否可能警察测到别的车速,误认为是我的车呢?可我又如何证明前面的确实有车呢?
这就是别人换线超车干扰雷达的典型例子, 上庭据实说就好了, 如果你以前没有得过超速告票, 会相信你的, 弯道$142公里时速确实有点CRAZY

上庭千万别多废话, 说完该说的就可以沉默了, 同时扮苦瓜脸

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旧 Feb 2nd, 2006, 11:56   只看该作者   #49
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同时扮苦瓜脸
不, 应扮死狗.
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不, 应扮死狗.
还是扮落水狗比较好.
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默认 明天要出庭,关于证据如何办?

明天是第一次上庭,咨询告票专家说只是预约下次真正出庭的时间,以及拿到警察提供的 Disclosure等,并不是真正进行trial。
如果只是这样,请问第一次到庭是否可以留给法官书面说明信件等。这些信件是否会作为下次出庭的证据。如果下次真正开庭时,警察不来,不管曾经留给法官什么东西,是否都不影响无条件胜呢?

请晚睡的大侠赐教。不胜感激!
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默认 在线等。。。

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明天是第一次上庭,咨询告票专家说只是预约下次真正出庭的时间,以及拿到警察提供的 Disclosure等,并不是真正进行trial。
如果只是这样,请问第一次到庭是否可以留给法官书面说明信件等。这些信件是否会作为下次出庭的证据。如果下次真正开庭时,警察不来,不管曾经留给法官什么东西,是否都不影响无条件胜呢?

请晚睡的大侠赐教。不胜感激!
upup。。。
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if you are very sure that you have 105km/h on your meter;
And given you said that there is a curve before you met the cops, I belive you can address this to the court; you can make a few photos for that curve, and explaining that there is no way you can reach that 142 at that curve during the night and you don't have cat eye-sight; (by the way, did you argue with the cop at the scene, usually they won't give you a 142 KM/H if you are really under (120KM/H), you said 105)

我当时看到summons上写的142km/h,马上就对她说:“It is impossible, I didn't drive so fast!”.可没有用,她说看到我的表上显示141km/h。可没给我出示任何证据,如ladar unit。我当时到那个女警车旁,好象就她一个人在车上,她如何一个人开车,同时又用ladar unit测速度呢(通常应该是两个人一起)。另:在她把我拦下后10多分钟,从前面来了另一步警车,呆了一会又走了。关键我也是一个人,没证人证明我当时开105km/h,法官几乎就是相信警察。警察说我开200km/h,法官也会信? 法庭上该讲究证据,警察该拿出我开142km/h的证据,而不是她在纸上写那么多就是那么多吧?!
她的意思应该是她的车跟着你的车时,她汽车的速度表显示141km/h。因为她是追上你的,所以很有可能,她比你快。
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在超速的告票里,只有被警察迎头截下的一种是罪无可恕的 你这种不用怕,找个告票专家,几乎可以100%搞定, 即使自己出庭,一口咬定没那么快,警察追你的速度可能有140,但你肯定不可能是140,大部分责任你都可逃掉。 加拿大的警察都是土匪,支持你,操死土匪! 只要出庭,一定问题不大, 有本事的告票专家还能帮你改驾驶记录,罚点钱就能了事,别怕, 我拿过几张告票都不记得了,就知道现在自己是记录良好
真正的马路杀手是堵在路上不走的那种SB,不超速还算是加拿大人吗
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默认 已经延期了。能提供本事更大的告票专家信息吗?

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今天一大早带了个朋友赶到Napanee法庭。刚到门口,就发现那个给告票的女警来了。在等到要求的翻译来后,在庭审休息期间,见到起诉官,要求延期,给了两个月的时间。
另请教米糊朋友。能提供点本事大的告票专家的信息吗?!因为我之前联系过不下10家(包括X-copper,pointts,Ontario traffic ticket,等等),他们能给的承诺几乎都是6点降到4点,再低就没一点把握。这个结果我觉得自己出庭也能达到(临走前和那个女警沟通了一下,她说的意思还是能通融一点的)。
再次感谢!
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今天一大早带了个朋友赶到Napanee法庭。刚到门口,就发现那个给告票的女警来了。在等到要求的翻译来后,在庭审休息期间,见到起诉官,要求延期,给了两个月的时间。
另请教米糊朋友。能提供点本事大的告票专家的信息吗?!因为我之前联系过不下10家(包括X-copper,pointts,Ontario traffic ticket,等等),他们能给的承诺几乎都是6点降到4点,再低就没一点把握。这个结果我觉得自己出庭也能达到(临走前和那个女警沟通了一下,她说的意思还是能通融一点的)。
再次感谢!
不好意思,我和你不在同一个省,没法给意见你。。。。。但在阿省我有两三张挺麻烦的告票最后都解决了,其中两张是找告票专家干的。。。。。不大清楚安省的情况,祝你好运。。。留意一下,有些告票专家是和警察有关系的(可能在他们的名片上有说),能做手脚,能不能找到就看你运气了。
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