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旧 Oct 17th, 2011, 23:53     #1
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默认 女儿被学校老师告知不可以带海鲜类的食品

Peel区,Grade 2的。这次是第二次,依然是口头,没有书面的通知。说是不可以带fish或shell fish(比如今天她带的饭里有虾仁),理由是班里有人过敏。不准带peanut是可以理解的,毕竟不是主要食品,但不准带鱼类或虾仁有点儿过分了吧。

P.S. 我自己也有好多东西过敏,平时也有随身带过敏药和准备EpiPen在家里,所以我知道过敏的痛苦和严重程度。但因为一个孩子而剥夺其他孩子正常吃饭的权利,公平吗?
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 00:24     #2
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少来这些上纲上线的东西。别的孩子有生命不受威胁的权利,我的孩子还有自由选择班级的权利,她班上有孩子过敏,我孩子又不是不能换班级。

皮尔区教育局的guideline我也仔细看过了,这里是地址: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...pfS73eA_TUw8aA

其中也提到:“It is unrealistic to attempt to “ban or eliminate” allergens (e.g., peanuts, nuts, nut oils, fish, milk, eggs, wheat). Schools cannot ensure a “peanut-free” environment and therefore it is recommended that the words “ban” and “peanut-free” not be used in any communication.”

作为班上老师的责任则有:“To help minimize risk the home-room teacher should regularly remind students not to bring food allergens to school”。注意是remind而非BAN。我想这是为什么她没有正式的书面通知家长而采取口头形式。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 00:24     #3
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你说呢?
你想说什么?
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 00:25     #4
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你想过生命的危险吗?
你仔细看过我的帖子吗?
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 00:34     #5
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公平,非常公平,这个跟peanut是一样的。为什么你认为剥夺吃花生就可以,剥夺吃海鲜就不可以?
那你为什么认为剥夺吃花生就可以,剥夺吃海鲜同样也可以?

那我告诉你我为什么认为 剥夺吃花生就可以,剥夺吃海鲜就不可以:

花生是零食而非主食,一个孩子不吃花生照样可以从其他食物吸取营养。但海鲜是一个食品的大类,是属于主要的食物营养来源。我女儿的情况是她吃肉很少,基本不吃鸡蛋,蛋白质和脂肪的主要来源就是奶类和鱼虾海鲜。否则就只能吃蔬菜水果了。别告诉我什么她不在学校吃的话可以在家吃的屁话。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 00:40     #6
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你想过生命的危险吗?
就知道会有你这种人会跳出来。什么叫生命的危险?我每年都有一两次严重过敏的情况,严重到要家里备着EpiPen(每用完一支就得去医生那里再开一只备着)的程度,你说我知不知道什么叫生命的危险?!
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:03     #7
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我想说那些规定很不合理,甭理他们,按你自己的规矩来,看谁能干过谁。
我可以理解别人家长对孩子过敏的担心。我自己本来的想法是先跟班主任谈,谈不拢就找校长要求换班级,再大不了闹到教育局去换学校,总是能换到一个班上没有海鲜过敏的学生的(她grade 1的时候就没任何问题)。所以上来看看有没有人有经验或更好的主意。但要因此剥夺我女儿吃她喜欢吃的食物的权利,还拿各种各样的冠冕堂皇的理由来掩饰作为家长的无能,做缩头乌龟我是万万做不到的。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:14     #8
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你女儿吃海鲜,比别人家孩子的生命都重要吗
典型的屁话。

我自己最清楚过敏有轻有重,如果那孩子的过敏严重到威胁到生命,我想班主任绝不会只是口头告诉我女儿不要带海鲜而已,一定会正式通知全班家长,并且有一整套相应的应急预案防止发生严重过敏。其家长也应该有相应的防备措施。如果没有,我相信其过敏不会很严重,只要不跟小朋友之间换着吃就没事儿(当然我会跟班主任求证此点)。绝不会是象有的人说的闻着味儿就过敏了,甚至有的一听到就过敏了。这个孩子不跟我女儿换着吃很可能就没事儿,但我女儿如果不吃,就会营养不良。你说哪个重要?

至于我自己对此事的打算,前面已经说得很清楚,谈不拢就换班级,并非一定要对着干。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:21     #9
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如果你这样为人父母,早晚有一天会有同样的问题在自己身上发生。如果你是那个海鲜过敏的孩子的家长,你会不会为老师这样要求同班的学生叫好?
我不会,我会跟校方协商妥善合理的解决办法。保障自己孩子的安全是大前提,但同时还要顾及他人的合理合法权利和利益。己所不欲勿施于人。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:24     #10
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你有换班的选择?那还不早换?用得着跟班主任谈吗?

如果你觉得要求是合理的,找有关的人谈就是了,用不着"闹"到教育局。
凡事要循一定的途径逐级解决。万一根本就是班主任小题大做呢?
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:28     #11
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什么样的家长教出什么样的孩子

我觉得你本来可以利用这个机会告诉女儿,午饭不给你带海鲜,因为你的朋友有过敏,让她学会尊重别人的生命、爱护朋友。你女儿长大了会感谢你的教导。

可我看你做不到这点。
少拿这些大道理砸人。如何教育孩子还轮不到你来说教。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:30     #12
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你觉得校方应该怎么做才保障你海鲜过敏的孩子安全呢?
你想知道?把我上面贴的guideline看一遍就知道了,不用我教你。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:35     #13
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你这都第二次被通知了,并且开学都一个半月了,你也没逐级解决呀。
第一次是孩子回来说的,也就是一个多星期前的事儿,有时候小孩子说话没准,我就想等老师写note来,但根本就没等来。再来就是今天了。你这倒是提醒我了,开学都一个半月了,如果这孩子过敏严重的话,应该早就有通知了,反之。。。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:40     #14
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说的也是,张嘴闭嘴脏话的人家的孩子,我也不会教。
你哪只眼睛看出脏话了?屁话就叫脏话了?得,您嘴还真干净。就你那两把刷子,还一副得谁训谁的架势,受用不起,我谢谢你。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:41     #15
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你女儿应该有个本子供家长老师交流的吧?
Agenda没写过关于seafood过敏的任何note。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:45     #16
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估计是老师或者helper啥的闻到那些鱼虾有“肠胃反应”,所以不紧不慢地找个过敏的借口。
这倒是有可能,所以我得跟班主任谈谈看。不过我们准备的午饭都很注意,虾只是水煮而且不带壳的,鱼也都是haddock、sole之类基本没有腥味的。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:51     #17
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不客气,我也教不了你女儿。只可惜一件好事,被生生做坏了。

还能到哪里找那么好的机会跟孩子讨论朋友、爱心呢,就这样把路给掐死了。

祝你心想事成。
瞧您这杞人忧天的架势,不劳您费心,教小孩子爱心不止这一条路,咱再有能耐再满嘴脏话也掐不死所有的路。况且咱孩子还是天生爱心大爆棚,不担心的,这您满意了吧。

也祝你心想事成。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:56     #18
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那你可以主动问啊。现在就写。
貌似没有什么难度的问题,被搞得这么复杂。
本来就不复杂,我原本不也说了,想上来看看有没有人有类似经验或更好的主意。如果没人答话,我就该怎么办就怎么办:先找老师问清楚情况,如果确定是不可以,那就找校长要求换班,基本上到校长那就能解决了。

但问题是有人答话,还上纲上线的。。。
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 01:59     #19
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说的也是,很多人出于污泥而不染的
您这是夸您孩子还是骂自个呢?
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旧 Oct 18th, 2011, 02:10     #20
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你去教育局法院跳去。你发贴,好意回个贴就招你惹你了,罕见。
罕见个啥,这坛子里多了去了。

抱歉,就这脾气。好心给建议的,多谢;上来就想说教拿大帽子扣人的,免开尊口。
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