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tigerh · Nov 25th, 2003, 13:03

to：血蛤蟆
看来你还很了解这边预算的情况，可否多给些这方面的信息。
偶老婆是做预算投标工作及成本控制的，近几年主要针对装修，曾在北京威宁谢顾问公司工作。但现在很担心是否能在加拿大找到工作，因为要询价。议标对语言的要求比较高，感觉没有信心。
你具体作什么样的工作？怎样找到此工作的？谢谢

血蛤蟆 · Nov 25th, 2003, 16:48

建议你老婆先去读个estimator的证书，好歹会对加拿大的建筑市场有个专业的了解，这样找工作就有信心了，有了信心，就一定能找到！

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孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

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jlr · Nov 25th, 2003, 16:57

据我所知，其实建筑施工行业是缺人的！那天和我的主体结构承包商的老板开玩笑说介绍个朋友给他作layout man，他马上就说可以并且就送到我这里来，只是我并没有这样的朋友。作项目管理的同胞的确不多，对语言的要求很高，我也许是幸运就闯了进来。虽然来加拿大之前一直是作施工的，我还是在这里作了一年的建筑勒脖，收垃圾扫厕所都干过，但是的确积累了一些本地经验，起码知道了很多和国内不同的东西。在刚拿到现在这份工作,与architect通话时被称作yes,sir,那种重新被人尊重的感觉的确让我感动。
我给大家的劝告是：直接登门去找工作。

桃李春风一杯酒 · Nov 25th, 2003, 23:38

请问各位大哥，我是做建筑设备设计的，水暖全做，现在工作机会多么？听说国外的建筑事物所只做建筑设计，那结构设备电气谁做？别笑话我，我很菜。

hardworker · Nov 26th, 2003, 12:34

i went thru your web site, your rendering technique is good, but your English needs work, a few examples:

'your designs need places to express' should be 'your design needs a place to be expressed'
'rail station' should be 'railway station'
'museum hall' should be 'museum lobby'
'--- apartment' should be '--- apartment building'
'mail centre' might be 'post office'

a few suggestions that may help you:
1. get your partner prove read the web site, word by word, it's hardly understandable right now;
2. simplify your scope of services and focus on rendering; nobody in Toronto will ask you for design services with your experience;
3. an alternative to being a renderer (or illustrator) is, to apply for a draftperson's position in an architect's office, because you don't have any Canadian experience, you have to start from bottom and may have to stick to entry level for couple of years before you move higher.

once you get started it may be easier than you think. and remember 'shortcuts' don't work here. architect is an old profession here and won't change for you, and you will change for it.

i'd love to see more and more sucessful chinese architects in canada.

翠儿呱呱 · Nov 26th, 2003, 13:50

to血蛤蟆：
你好！我以前在广州做工程预算的，来多伦多4个月还在LINC混，想请教有关考ESTIMATOR的问题，能否告知，谢谢！

fath · Nov 26th, 2003, 15:40

thank you for hardworker
your suggestion is very nice, and i appreciate your help.

honestly, my english is not very well, but i must improve it in the future.

actually i sent my resume only in draftperson position, but no any reaction.could you tell me the reason?

you are the person working in this field from your perspective, so could you give me some information about employment opportunities in architectural field?

www.zviewmedia.com

[This message was edited by fath on November 26, 2003 at 17:12.]

[This message was edited by fath on November 26, 2003 at 17:17.]

血蛤蟆 · Nov 27th, 2003, 15:03

给电话我好了。

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 翠儿呱呱:
to血蛤蟆：
你好！我以前在广州做工程预算的，来多伦多4个月还在LINC混，想请教有关考ESTIMATOR的问题，能否告知，谢谢！<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

http://img.mms.sohu.com/sys/1221/16753/16753.gif

lzh0007 · Nov 27th, 2003, 18:44

我离开建院的时候,陈克理还是总工办的,什么时候下放到五所了?我到这里就一个字,悔! 现在要不回国,要不上学,反正没奖学金就是贷款,别等它把我口袋的钱都榨干了.

隔窗烟月锁莲塘

水哥 · Nov 27th, 2003, 20:50

唉，感觉中你们这些搞建筑的还是贼心不死呀

加拿大有什么建筑可言？那个CN TOWER？其实我觉得在这里你们拿个建筑方面的学位回锅搞个事务所的确是一条正路，国内现在到处大兴土木，正是建筑师们大干的好机会，例如在浦东和东莞，我们院都有分院，建筑师年收入公活和私活一起来能弄他个30万以上。若是象天大，同济或南工毕业的，更是抢手。你们好歹原来都是高手，若还想在这个领域发展，这里真不是咱们的天地，耗死你。

我从东海岸到西海岸，几乎加拿大所有的城市都转了，印象中没有什么建筑市场，没见到大规模的工地建设，看到的只是小规模的象窝棚一样的木头房屋和叠纸盒子般的厂房，不过温哥华临海的钢结构全玻璃高层住宅（国内用语）倒一直兴建中。

即使在这里你弄个设计室或事务所，投标我觉得不会象你想象的那么简单。

这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。

**********************
水垮垮的哥哥

[This message was edited by 水哥 on November 27, 2003 at 22:02.]

catdh · Nov 27th, 2003, 22:24

to 萧秋水前辈
你以前在几所混呐？来了多久了？
陈克里是2000年到的十所，当时还叫专家办呢。
有空联系一下
416 562 7890（cell）
416 502 8793 (home)
愿意和所有人成为朋友！

catdh出品，必属精品

血蛤蟆 · Nov 28th, 2003, 08:51

就是这样简单的房子才容易上手！复杂的东西，我干不了！

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 水哥:
这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

hotmartin · Dec 9th, 2003, 14:19

I know a person, who has no background of construction at all. but through a friend, he got a drafting work, $25/h.
so I think you guys can also try this way. but you must find out ways to know the companies and the boss to sell yourself because they may not put ads on web.
And I know a person laying bricks, $30/h, he was a Canadian soldier before, and he told me he did not have experience before getting the job. And the work is not very complicated, you can imagine.
So if you have construction background, try out!

hotmartin · Dec 9th, 2003, 14:24

Of course construction labor market is better that other general labors. if you don't want labor jobs, I know some people went to George Brown College, they didn't study full time even, just took some key course, and found jobs after that. starting 40,000.

longshuisheng · Dec 9th, 2003, 16:01

the max rage for a genaral labour work in construction rage is $27.45/h. steel man and carpenter rage is about 28/h, layout man is about $30.00/h and all plus 10% vacation pay, that's max union rage! A min union rage for a general labour is $16.64/h, it take you time to reach max! most of our chinese can't do the construction job, different muscle! you needn't very smart, but you definetely need power and energy! one of my friend quit a constrution job(16.64/h, kind of carpenter helper) and work in manufactory for $8.5/h.
construction job looks easy, you need at least two years to become a not too bad carpenter helper, at least five years carpenter helper experience to become a carpenter(if you are smart!), steel man? you needn't a brain, but just think about the steel you structural engineer design for the building, can you carry it?
maybe there are some easy construction labour job, but I havn't found it yet.

sunrain002001 · Dec 10th, 2003, 03:29

thanks so much hotmartin

would u please give me more information about George Brown College? what kind of 'key courses' do they take in there? do they majoy in construction or archetecture?

水哥 · Dec 10th, 2003, 07:16

所以才很难找到建筑师方面的工作，你以为在这么疲软的市场，这么好干的活人家会给你？？？

移民到别人的国家只有两条路容易上手：
1：别人干不了的。

2：别人不愿意干的。

我说蛤蟆，还美得你・！！

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 血蛤蟆?:
就是这样简单的房子才容易上手！复杂的东西，我干不了！

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 水哥:
这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。
http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/12113...1352921936.gif http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/92418...2394479687.gif http://img.mms.sohu.com/sys/1221/16753/16753.gif http://www.5fun.com/bbs/uploadFace/3...2511373848.gif http://www.socheap.com.cn/bbs/upload...5183530206.jpg http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/10092...9362576738.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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水垮垮的哥哥

fath · Dec 10th, 2003, 11:28

network至关重要，但对新移民来讲是最弱的，只能等待时机了

www.zviewmedia.com

血蛤蟆 · Dec 10th, 2003, 15:17

水哥，你牛！

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孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/105459_2003124228097272.gif

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tigerh · Dec 10th, 2003, 15:28

to:hotmartin

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sunrain002001:
thanks so much hotmartin

would u please give me more information about George Brown College? what kind of 'key courses' do they take in there? do they majoy in construction or archetecture?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

up!
thanks so much!

Nov 25th, 2003, 13:03	只看该作者 #41
tigerh Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 13	to：血蛤蟆看来你还很了解这边预算的情况，可否多给些这方面的信息。偶老婆是做预算投标工作及成本控制的，近几年主要针对装修，曾在北京威宁谢顾问公司工作。但现在很担心是否能在加拿大找到工作，因为要询价。议标对语言的要求比较高，感觉没有信心。你具体作什么样的工作？怎样找到此工作的？谢谢
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Nov 25th, 2003, 23:38	只看该作者 #44
桃李春风一杯酒 Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1 声望: 0	请问各位大哥，我是做建筑设备设计的，水暖全做，现在工作机会多么？听说国外的建筑事物所只做建筑设计，那结构设备电气谁做？别笑话我，我很菜。
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Nov 26th, 2003, 12:34	只看该作者 #45
hardworker Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1 声望: 0	i went thru your web site, your rendering technique is good, but your English needs work, a few examples: 'your designs need places to express' should be 'your design needs a place to be expressed' 'rail station' should be 'railway station' 'museum hall' should be 'museum lobby' '--- apartment' should be '--- apartment building' 'mail centre' might be 'post office' a few suggestions that may help you: 1. get your partner prove read the web site, word by word, it's hardly understandable right now; 2. simplify your scope of services and focus on rendering; nobody in Toronto will ask you for design services with your experience; 3. an alternative to being a renderer (or illustrator) is, to apply for a draftperson's position in an architect's office, because you don't have any Canadian experience, you have to start from bottom and may have to stick to entry level for couple of years before you move higher. once you get started it may be easier than you think. and remember 'shortcuts' don't work here. architect is an old profession here and won't change for you, and you will change for it. i'd love to see more and more sucessful chinese architects in canada.
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翠儿呱呱 Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1 声望: 0	to血蛤蟆：你好！我以前在广州做工程预算的，来多伦多4个月还在LINC混，想请教有关考ESTIMATOR的问题，能否告知，谢谢！
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Nov 26th, 2003, 15:40	只看该作者 #47
fath Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 143 声望: 0	thank you for hardworker your suggestion is very nice, and i appreciate your help. honestly, my english is not very well, but i must improve it in the future. actually i sent my resume only in draftperson position, but no any reaction.could you tell me the reason? you are the person working in this field from your perspective, so could you give me some information about employment opportunities in architectural field? www.zviewmedia.com [This message was edited by fath on November 26, 2003 at 17:12.] [This message was edited by fath on November 26, 2003 at 17:17.]
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Nov 25th, 2003, 16:48	只看该作者 #42
血蛤蟆 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,918 积分:7 精华:1 声望: 1499346	建议你老婆先去读个estimator的证书，好歹会对加拿大的建筑市场有个专业的了解，这样找工作就有信心了，有了信心，就一定能找到！ ---------------------- 孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

Nov 25th, 2003, 16:57	只看该作者 #43
jlr Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 718 积分:7 精华:1 声望: 384	据我所知，其实建筑施工行业是缺人的！那天和我的主体结构承包商的老板开玩笑说介绍个朋友给他作layout man，他马上就说可以并且就送到我这里来，只是我并没有这样的朋友。作项目管理的同胞的确不多，对语言的要求很高，我也许是幸运就闯了进来。虽然来加拿大之前一直是作施工的，我还是在这里作了一年的建筑勒脖，收垃圾扫厕所都干过，但是的确积累了一些本地经验，起码知道了很多和国内不同的东西。在刚拿到现在这份工作,与architect通话时被称作yes,sir,那种重新被人尊重的感觉的确让我感动。我给大家的劝告是：直接登门去找工作。

Nov 27th, 2003, 15:03	只看该作者 #48
血蛤蟆 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,918 积分:7 精华:1 声望: 1499346	给电话我好了。 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 翠儿呱呱: to血蛤蟆：你好！我以前在广州做工程预算的，来多伦多4个月还在LINC混，想请教有关考ESTIMATOR的问题，能否告知，谢谢！<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ---------------------- 孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

Nov 27th, 2003, 18:44	只看该作者 #49
lzh0007 枯树倚寒岩注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,725 声望: 1381614	我离开建院的时候,陈克理还是总工办的,什么时候下放到五所了?我到这里就一个字,悔! 现在要不回国,要不上学,反正没奖学金就是贷款,别等它把我口袋的钱都榨干了. 隔窗烟月锁莲塘
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水哥 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 365 积分:34 精华:6 声望: 21495625	唉，感觉中你们这些搞建筑的还是贼心不死呀加拿大有什么建筑可言？那个CN TOWER？其实我觉得在这里你们拿个建筑方面的学位回锅搞个事务所的确是一条正路，国内现在到处大兴土木，正是建筑师们大干的好机会，例如在浦东和东莞，我们院都有分院，建筑师年收入公活和私活一起来能弄他个30万以上。若是象天大，同济或南工毕业的，更是抢手。你们好歹原来都是高手，若还想在这个领域发展，这里真不是咱们的天地，耗死你。我从东海岸到西海岸，几乎加拿大所有的城市都转了，印象中没有什么建筑市场，没见到大规模的工地建设，看到的只是小规模的象窝棚一样的木头房屋和叠纸盒子般的厂房，不过温哥华临海的钢结构全玻璃高层住宅（国内用语）倒一直兴建中。即使在这里你弄个设计室或事务所，投标我觉得不会象你想象的那么简单。这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。 ********************** 水垮垮的哥哥 [This message was edited by 水哥 on November 27, 2003 at 22:02.]

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catdh Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 41 声望: 0	to 萧秋水前辈你以前在几所混呐？来了多久了？陈克里是2000年到的十所，当时还叫专家办呢。有空联系一下 416 562 7890（cell） 416 502 8793 (home) 愿意和所有人成为朋友！ catdh出品，必属精品
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Nov 28th, 2003, 08:51	只看该作者 #52
血蛤蟆 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,918 积分:7 精华:1 声望: 1499346	就是这样简单的房子才容易上手！复杂的东西，我干不了！ <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 水哥: 这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ---------------------- 孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

Dec 9th, 2003, 14:19	只看该作者 #53
hotmartin Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 75 声望: 0	I know a person, who has no background of construction at all. but through a friend, he got a drafting work, $25/h. so I think you guys can also try this way. but you must find out ways to know the companies and the boss to sell yourself because they may not put ads on web. And I know a person laying bricks, $30/h, he was a Canadian soldier before, and he told me he did not have experience before getting the job. And the work is not very complicated, you can imagine. So if you have construction background, try out!
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Dec 9th, 2003, 14:24	只看该作者 #54
hotmartin Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 75 声望: 0	Of course construction labor market is better that other general labors. if you don't want labor jobs, I know some people went to George Brown College, they didn't study full time even, just took some key course, and found jobs after that. starting 40,000.
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Dec 9th, 2003, 16:01	只看该作者 #55
longshuisheng Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 14 声望: 0	the max rage for a genaral labour work in construction rage is $27.45/h. steel man and carpenter rage is about 28/h, layout man is about $30.00/h and all plus 10% vacation pay, that's max union rage! A min union rage for a general labour is $16.64/h, it take you time to reach max! most of our chinese can't do the construction job, different muscle! you needn't very smart, but you definetely need power and energy! one of my friend quit a constrution job(16.64/h, kind of carpenter helper) and work in manufactory for $8.5/h. construction job looks easy, you need at least two years to become a not too bad carpenter helper, at least five years carpenter helper experience to become a carpenter(if you are smart!), steel man? you needn't a brain, but just think about the steel you structural engineer design for the building, can you carry it? maybe there are some easy construction labour job, but I havn't found it yet.
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Dec 10th, 2003, 03:29	只看该作者 #56
sunrain002001 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 227 声望: 0	thanks so much hotmartin would u please give me more information about George Brown College? what kind of 'key courses' do they take in there? do they majoy in construction or archetecture?

Dec 10th, 2003, 07:16	只看该作者 #57
水哥 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 365 积分:34 精华:6 声望: 21495625	所以才很难找到建筑师方面的工作，你以为在这么疲软的市场，这么好干的活人家会给你？？？移民到别人的国家只有两条路容易上手： 1：别人干不了的。 2：别人不愿意干的。我说蛤蟆，还美得你・！！ <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 血蛤蟆?: 就是这样简单的房子才容易上手！复杂的东西，我干不了！ <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 水哥: 这里的我们见的最多的是全木头结构的房屋估计都是套的标准图，除了基础，想必没什么可设计的。<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ---------------------- 孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。 http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/12113...1352921936.gif http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/92418...2394479687.gif http://img.mms.sohu.com/sys/1221/16753/16753.gif http://www.5fun.com/bbs/uploadFace/3...2511373848.gif http://www.socheap.com.cn/bbs/upload...5183530206.jpg http://bbs.hnol.net/uploadFace/10092...9362576738.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ********************** 水垮垮的哥哥

Dec 10th, 2003, 11:28	只看该作者 #58
fath Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 143 声望: 0	network至关重要，但对新移民来讲是最弱的，只能等待时机了 www.zviewmedia.com
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Dec 10th, 2003, 15:17	只看该作者 #59
血蛤蟆 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,918 积分:7 精华:1 声望: 1499346	水哥，你牛！ -------------------------------------- 孩子多了，不看着点儿，心里不放心，所以还是带在身边的好。

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tigerh Junior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 13 声望: 0	to:hotmartin <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sunrain002001: thanks so much hotmartin would u please give me more information about George Brown College? what kind of 'key courses' do they take in there? do they majoy in construction or archetecture?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> up! thanks so much!
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