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旧 Sep 4th, 2009, 14:44     #1
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默认 期权交易的高级战法(1)

关键在于对冲,即得尔他对冲,LONG SHORT结合,股票的涨跌对组合不起任何作用,

TRADE TIME VALUE AND VOLATILITY

到那时: 宠辱不惊,看股票花开花落;去留无意,望天空云卷云舒

关于对冲,大家有没有问题,一起讨论啊

无限风光在险峰!
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讲完了, 大家没问题,闪了

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关键在于对冲,即得尔他对冲,LONG SHORT结合,股票的涨跌对组合不起任何作用,

TRADE TIME VALUE AND VOLATILITY

到那时: 宠辱不惊,看股票花开花落;去留无意,望天空云卷云舒

关于对冲,大家有没有问题,一起讨论啊:biggrin...
无风险组合?like butterfly?
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No,

trade Greeks

Delta Neutrual trading. Buttefly is not delta neutrual strategy, my Yu brother.





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DELTA, GAMMA,THETA, VEGA

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老愚有教材吗?
没有。
我记得问过你这些东东在实战中的运用,你当时说没用过。
难道你闭关修炼了九阴真经,现在神功初成?
快点招来!不然,
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来不及搬了,蹲着听

警世基金就是用来警世的,不是用来赚钱投资的
我要是能赚钱,还收个鸟费?我要是亏钱,你还投资个鸟蛋?
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哈哈, 愚兄记忆力不错, 东山进步很快,现在自学高级教程,

正在看的是《OPTION VOLATILITY & PRICING》 -Advanced Trading Strategies and Techniques, Author: Sheldon Natenberg, Price: 约50美金


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没有。
我记得问过你这些东东在实战中的运用,你当时说没用过。
难道你闭关修炼了九阴真经,现在神功初成?
快点招来!不然,
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东山兄弟:有没有讲如何卖靠挣钱的?
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总的来说,卖靠是很危险的一件事,但可以买些保险,那就是卖CALL SPREAD, 风险就小了,当然盈利也小了


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总的来说,卖靠是很危险的一件事,但可以买些保险,那就是卖CALL SPREAD, 风险就小了,当然盈利也小了
好像高手们(MM?)都是这样挣的,最后把股价打入call的价格下面。
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默认

大周末了,东山全情奉献一个比较安全的吸金大法。

东山前几天介绍正态分布,就是说股指出现极端的情况概率很小,所以就可以卖OTM的

CALL和PUT,为了安全再买更OTM的CALL和PUT保护,如SPY现在102,卖106 的CALL再

买109的CALL,卖99的PUT再买96PUT保护,大概赌1:1.5的赔率,即最大赚100,最大

亏150
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大周末了,东山全情奉献一个比较安全的吸金大法。

东山前几天介绍正态分布,就是说股指出现极端的情况概率很小,所以就可以卖OTM的

CALL和PUT,为了安全再买更OTM的CALL和PUT保护,如SPY现在102,卖106 的CALL再

买109的CALL,卖99的PUT再买96PUT...
有没有实战的例子?
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8月OE后偶就是用的上述战法

当时SPY103, 偶卖107的CALL买110的CALL,卖99的PUT买96的PUT, 得金1200

现在上述组合值960,赚240,如果9月30日之前SPY在99-107之间,我赚1200,

如果出现极端情况,SPY跌到98以下或涨到108以上,最大赔1800





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8月OE后偶就是用的上述战法

当时SPY103, 偶卖107的CALL买110的CALL,卖99的PUT买96的PUT, 得金1200

现在上述组合值960,赚240,如果9月30日之前SPY在99-107之间,我赚1200,

如果出现极端情况,SPY跌到98以下或涨到108以上,...
哈哈,XX所见略同吗。
你这个就叫bear put和bear call,收credit。
前两天我卖fslr 100put@3.4,买85put@1.2保护。
还有rimm 卖65/买55 put,比单买call心理踏实些,虽然少赚点,也有0.4/share。

不过我只卖put,不卖call。因为姚妖说了,道指要上万点!
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同样给你写几句,类似的炒法我用过很久,后来主力资金不做这个了,主要原因是
1。时间风险大,需要等到每个oe日。
2。出现极端情况,赔得也不少。
3。等待中会错过大行情。

有大资金,还不如买几只蓝筹股,吃分红,卖covered call更安全一些。
小资金,我觉得像老姚那样去博几把,增长...
小资金能做吗?
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旧 Sep 4th, 2009, 19:05   只看该作者   #18
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《OPTION VOLATILITY & PRICING》 -Advanced Trading Strategies and Techniques, Author: Sheldon Natenberg, Price: 约50...
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旧 Sep 4th, 2009, 19:45   只看该作者   #19
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同样给你写几句,类似的炒法我用过很久,后来主力资金不做这个了,主要原因是
1。时间风险大,需要等到每个oe日。
2。出现极端情况,赔得也不少。
3。等待中会错过大行情。

有大资金,还不如买几只蓝筹股,吃分红,卖covered call更安全一些。
小资金,我觉得像老姚那样去博几把,增长...
不一定要等到oe日嘛,由利润时,随时cover就得。
我只恨自己资金少,不然的话,用大钱玩小钱,还是比较容易的。
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旧 Sep 4th, 2009, 21:22   只看该作者   #20
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双向的,怎么出?
你是问怎么同时cover卖的put和买的put吗?
你的broker做不了吗?
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