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旧 Dec 23rd, 2006, 15:31   只看该作者   #21
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老大, IT里分类多了去了。一般程序员撑死了5,6万。
无知了吧?对developer来说,permanent和contractor是明显有区别的。

对了,我个人所知的calgary IT行业的最高时薪恰恰就是你所谓的一般developer创造的,SAP PORTAL DEVELOPER,曾经创造过250/HOUR的纪录。

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旧 Dec 23rd, 2006, 15:53   只看该作者   #22
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是无知了。一个破程序员,给你200块一个小时, 那老板不是钱太多花不出去, 就是大脑有问题。 对了, 不会就雇用半小时吧, 那跟鸡的价有一拼。这破程序员真是够破的。
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旧 Dec 23rd, 2006, 16:06   只看该作者   #23
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是无知了。一个破程序员,给你200块一个小时, 那老板不是钱太多花不出去, 就是大脑有问题。 对了, 不�...
看样子你更熟悉鸡的价格而不是程序员的价格, 还真的是术业有专攻,大家所在行业不一样就是不一样。
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旧 Dec 23rd, 2006, 16:22   只看该作者   #24
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那好吧, 你挣那么多是你的本事, 但愿你永远挣那么多。

卡尔加里现在够冷的吧? 对了, 你跟我说沙特阿拉伯, 程序员能挣$1000/hour for permanent,我肯定相信。
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旧 Dec 23rd, 2006, 16:59   只看该作者   #25
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那好吧, 你挣那么多是你的本事, 但愿你永远挣那么多。

卡尔加里现在够冷的吧? 对了, 你跟我说沙特阿拉�...

哈哈,你到说对了,如果去沙特,我会开得比多伦多再高一点. 多伦多的气候虽然比卡加里差,但孬好比沙特还强点.

另外,IT行业没有什么是永远的,能把握现在就不错.
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 00:42   只看该作者   #26
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多伦多的气候比卡城好.
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 09:06   只看该作者   #27
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没有多高,contractor 80/hour应该算多伦多的中等水平吧?

考虑到我要从calgary搬到多伦多,再低就没法干了.
是的.
没有多高,contractor 80/hour应该算多伦多的中等水平.
什么费用都自己分担的.
一两百元/小时很正常.
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 09:14   只看该作者   #28
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默认 我很想知道合同的费用到底有多大,例如50/小时,60/小时

现在有一个合同对方愿意出60,结果我报了一个50+,没有
想到对方竟然误会了,从此不提60元,现在我有一个不错的工作
但想换个工作,这个合同是否可以接?
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 10:43   只看该作者   #29
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默认 曾经有个老太婆

那是很多年前事了, 体重150。

有人说她胖, 她很理直气壮的反问到, 你说我胖? 那边还有个老太婆, 180呢。

言下之意, 有比自己胖的, 自己就不算胖。

同老太婆的逻辑, 有比自己高的, 自己的工资就不算高。 我的工资还不及最高工资的一半, 所以恐怕连中等都算不上。

你以为楼主真不知道自己工资是高还是低吗? 装孙子呢。 和曾经有个女士在这里说一个月1000的化装品(注意是加币)很平常是同一种心态。

一句话, 守寡多年的寡妇想找野男人,虽然行动上在勾引, 但嘴里怎么着也得说点贞妇烈女之词, 这个,我想我们大家都理解。

不过说实话, 能拿高工资的人, 我还是很佩服的。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 11:39   只看该作者   #30
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Talking 2 cents

when submitting tender or proposal to our client, the service price is like 200/hr for senior, 120/hr for intermdeiate engineer....
but when paying us, only 20 or less/hr.

That is difference!

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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 12:29   只看该作者   #31
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那是很多年前事了, 体重150。

有人说她胖, 她很理直气壮的反问到, 你说我胖? 那边还有个老太婆, 180呢。...
吹牛比发展到楼主这个份上也算是费尽脑汁了, 鼓励一下吧。他的收入能比挣10块一个小时的是强多了。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 13:01   只看该作者   #32
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吹牛比发展到楼主这个份上也算是费尽脑汁了, 鼓励一下吧。他的收入能比挣10块一个小时的是强多了。
有必要用一个没到手的offer吹?

就算你说那工作是1000/hour, 仍然是一个没到手的offer, pay rate = 0.

哪又是在吹什么呢?吹多伦多的IT市场牛B?
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 13:04   只看该作者   #33
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有必要用一个没到手的offer吹?

就算你说那工作是1000/hour, 仍然是一个没到手的offer, pay rate = 0.

哪又是在吹什...
老兵就是老兵,不上当。同行是冤家,泄了信息,别人报个$10/hr咋办?

挖坑太累,改行灌水。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 13:06   只看该作者   #34
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现在有一个合同对方愿意出60,结果我报了一个50+,没有
想到对方竟然误会了,从此不提60元,现在我有一个不错...
理论上, 只有 CPP/EI/VACATION和BENEFIT的区别,但工作压力是不一样的。

因为业务原因,公司随时可以中止CONTRACTOR的工作,因为你和公司的关系属于BUSSINESS。
一般来说,半年的CONTRACTOR, PERMANENT RATE * 150% 。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 13:13   只看该作者   #35
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理论上, 只有 CPP/EI/VACATION和BENEFIT的区别,但工作压力是不一样的。

因为业务原因,公司随时可以中止CONTRACTOR箮.
CONTRACTOR至少要高50%才行,主要是你不能一个CONTRACTOR之后马上就有另一个CONTRACTOR,中间可能休息。 80/小时的CONTRACTOR属于中等,或许中等稍微偏上一点点。这个价有些人怎么会认为是吹? 不理解。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 13:15   只看该作者   #36
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CONTRACTOR至少要高50%才行,主要是你不能一个CONTRACTOR之后马上就有另一个CONTRACTOR,中间可能休息。 80/小时的CONTRACT...
不光是休息,contractor没有培训的机会,如果想提高,培训的费用要自己掏。

嗬嗬,不过昨天我已经离开卡加里,现在在旧金山。各位Merry chirstmas, happy new year的时候再回去和你们一起庆祝了。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 14:31   只看该作者   #38
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不光是休息,contractor没有培训的机会,如果想提高,培训的费用要自己掏。

嗬嗬,不过昨天我已经离开卡加里ﮮ.
好啊, 在旧金山呢? 那就更牛了, 年薪十几万买不起房子。一个人买condo还可以。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 17:49   只看该作者   #39
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80/hr 在IT属中等偏上价位,如果是一年以上的合同算相当不错了,即使在美国找到这样的RATE也得花时间
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旧 Dec 24th, 2006, 19:12   只看该作者   #40
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楼主给我们介绍一下申请的职位和领域好吗,否则我们只有认为你是吹牛比。
不至于吧, IT行业, contractor 75/hour是正常的价钱, contractor的工作就是干半年挣一年钱的工作. 这算啥吹牛???
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