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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 10:23     #1
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还有些焰火也是电脑做的。

看来以后的趋势是不需要请这么多人了,直接上3D电脑动画。
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不受影响啊,我的感动总是真实的。哪次奥运没有煽情的节目?
大家要求太高了吧?...
只是事后发现被骗了有些不爽罢了。哈哈。

以后大家都会头脑更清醒,再也不会上当了。也不会轻信他人了。
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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 11:14     #3
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谁也没有规定该怎么走,该怎么说,该怎么唱,两个小孩演演双簧,只要他们高兴,别人有什么可说的?...
这样的安排,两个小孩未必高兴。当然我这只是猜想了,因为如果是我的话,我很不高兴。
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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 11:26     #4
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几千个孩子中挑出来的两个,会不高兴吗?

愤怒的选手们真是春节得搞笑,那你们相信reality tv是reality吗?...
这种事情每个人的想法都不一样。如果我是那两个孩子中的一个。我会拒绝表演的。如果我是孩子的家长,我也会替孩子拒绝的,并且给孩子讲清楚其中的道理。

不管是用我的面孔,别人的声音,还是我的声音,别人的面孔,都是对我的不尊重,也是对他人的不尊重。我也会这样教育我的下一代的。我也并不渴望获得一个什么名声。
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要是表演前就早说里面看到的任何东西都可能是假的,大家就都不会有意见了。不过他们不会这样说的。

本来我也很喜欢那个穿红裙子的小姑娘的。现在,我只是觉得同情她了,只是觉得这件事对她们两个都不公平。如果这个就是这次show要达到的效果的话,那么效果实在太好了。
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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 12:02     #6
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有人表演前说任何东西都是真的吗?

成千上万的无名演员也没见谁表达愤怒和敬意,真是奇了怪了,这么一个你情我愿的事情有什么好愤怒的...
太惭愧了。原来是我太天真了。我现在才知道,这种表演都是假的,谢谢教诲。
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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 12:59     #7
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如果没有新闻报道,那个幕后的小女孩,可能永远也不会为人所知。所有的荣誉,都是属于幕前的那个小女孩的。这是非常可能出现的一种情况。

也许这就是这个新闻可以出来的原因吧。属于自己的,就要尽力去争。不属于自己的,也不必非要拿来。

但是结果是,有损中国的声望。自己做的事情,也怪不得西方媒体说。

据说国内已经开始封杀这条新闻了?是不是真的?
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旧 Aug 12th, 2008, 15:05     #8
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国内大的网站上已经把这条消息删除了。大家也不必再继续讨论了。如果国内的媒体真的够勇,坚持下来,那也算是不错了。现在这样的结果实在是太令人失望了。

另据Toronto Star上援引The musical director of the ceremonies, Chen Qigang的话说,林妙可在台上都不一定知道,喇叭里放的是另外一个人的声音。

http://olympics.thestar.com/2008/article/476821

The musical director of the ceremonies, Chen Qigang revealed in a Beijing radio interview a member of the Politburo - the highest ranking body of China's ruling Communist Party - decided Lin was pretty, but her voice was not the best.

A change had to be made in the "national interest," Chen said.

Organizers then decided to use audio from 7 1/2 year old Yang Peiyi to fill in.

Chen said the little girl on the stage probably thought it was her own voice that was being used.

"When Lin was singing, she may not have realized that it was not her own voice," he told Beijing's People's Broadcasting Station.
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有的人在这个事上不能做到“实事求是”。
而是“凡是XXX作出的决策,我们都坚决维护;凡是XXX的指示,我们都始终不渝地遵循”

要真的没错,国内为什么开始封杀这条新闻了?因为自己都觉得难看。
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今天又放出新消息了,北京奥组委在面对境外媒体记者的提问时,承认开幕式孩子演唱系录播,但不认为有错。昨天删除的新闻不知道会不会再放回来?

而且说是转播商建议的,艺术指导做出的决策。间接否认涉及某高官。

http://news.2008.sina.com.cn/c/2008-...16111427.shtml

8月13日北京奥运会主新闻中心举行国际奥委会北京奥组委例行新闻发布会。以下为发布会实录。

  日本KBS电视台记者:我听说在开幕式上的演唱有一部分是对口型的,您知道这件事吗?如果有这样的情况,您有什么看法?

  孙伟德:昨天,我们和开幕式艺术指导核对了这个情况。在开幕式上,孩子唱的歌是录播的,这是在获得转播商同意之后,艺术指导做出的决策。根据我的理解,这也是转播商建议他们这样做的。在这之前有好几个人都试唱过这首歌,最后艺术导演把当中唱得最好的那段录下来在开幕式的时候播出。

  美联社记者:我想问费利先生一个问题。您认为他是否符合这样一个原则,即应该由同一个人来表演节目,而不是由2个不同的人来表演节目,您认为这是对全世界的青少年传递的正确的信息吗?

  Gilbert FELLI:我想向大家解释的是开幕式组织工作非常庞大,而且很多人有自己的观点,比如转播商有自己的观点。我们要确保发挥最好的水平,最后制作方做出了技术上的决定,做出了这样的处理。开幕式上有15000人参加表演,而且他们要在不同的节目时段中不断改变角色。实际上,每场演出都会有这样的安排,有人认为这样做不对,但是大部分人会认为这样做非常好、非常精彩。

  外国媒体:如果你是那个唱歌小女孩的父亲,到最后一分钟,要告诉她,其实不是由你来唱,你会怎么跟她解释?

  Gilbert FELLI:这要放在具体情景中看。比如说赛艇比赛的时候,我们只有四个赛手,他们都有参加奥运会的资格,最后教练会替换最后一个赛艇选手的人选,这是一样的情况,希望能够理解。当然大家的观点是不一样的,比如说一个足球队,教练会做这样的决定,最后可能会换掉一两个球员,这是完全正常的。

  美联社:9岁的小女孩在开幕式唱歌的这个情况难道和一场比赛是一样的吗?

  Gilbert FELLI:我前面讲过了,大家会有不同的观点,但是运动就是这样的道理。小女孩通过了预选阶段,到最后这个阶段决定不由你唱,就像球赛一样,我们应该接受这样的决定,这不是个人问题。我刚才已经谈到了,很多小女孩受过训练,他们一个人表演,而用另一个人的声音,这是很正常的。
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旧 Aug 13th, 2008, 10:09     #11
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演奏:中国人民解放军军乐团
演唱:A:杨沛宜 B:林妙可 C:雷茨昕 阿如罕 朴海燕

这个事先就写清楚了,没有想骗谁啊。这个本来简单的事搞得复杂了。...
看起来应该是5人小合唱。组委会还是骗了大家。哈哈。
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我写的不全,照片请看http://www.6park.com/enter5/messages/61837.html...
说得认真些,也看不出谁唱,谁表演。算了,不讨论这些了,总之就是个丑闻罢了。从假唱,到封消息,到现在的官方消息。如果有人还引以为荣,那就尽管自己看着办吧。

首先非官方的消息出自音乐总监,甚至和政治局扯上关系,一夜之间,新闻全部被封,网上的讨论全部删除,今天组委会面对记者提问,把责任全推到艺术总监那里去,他的黑锅是背定了。本来人家说的是,上面来命令了,不得不这样做的。还有一个貌似老外的人(至少有一个外国名字)回答问题。在开幕式上,全是中国人在讲话,这时候怎么找个外国人来回答问题,太没有信心了吧。

现在看来,假唱还不算是最大的丑闻了。这个事件的背后,我相信还有很多错综复杂的关系,外人是很难弄明白的。只是不小心被揭露出来了一些。现在官方的做法是赶紧压制民间的讨论,让大家跟着官方的消息走,免得讨论失控,搞出更多的内幕。
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加拿大办奥运时也“假唱”,有什么资格指责别人???...
射雕英雄传中,最后华山论剑的时候,裘千仞说每人都做过错事,错杀过人,没有人能站出来指责他的不对。当大家都暗自惭愧的时候,洪七公站出来说,他一生共杀过XX人,无一不是罪大恶极,从没有错杀过人。然后裘千仞惭愧得无话可说。同时也点化了郭靖,侠之大者,为国为民。

每次我看到这里的时候,都很是感动,敬佩洪七公。真正的英雄。
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我就觉得奇怪了,如果老谋子需要才艺双全的,难道就找不出一个唱得好长得也不错的小女孩吗,中国应该多的是了吧,老谋子非得用那个女孩吗?...
现在看来是非得这样。而且原因不能告诉大家。
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没要你买单,你交了一分钱的税给中国了?城市建设是城市建设的单,老百姓该买的,最终的好处是老百姓的。奥运会的经济来源和支出你可以去查奥运会的审计。...
对于3千亿投资的奥运会来说,老百姓能得到什么好处呢?
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我觉得在容纳数十万人的大场地让一个小孩子来演唱,对口型是必须的,孩子的唱歌底气不足,音量上不去,这种场地不是一般性的文艺演出,而且这种开幕式绝对不是以唱为主。唱是一个配合。我还听说穿着五颜六色的多民族儿童,其中有来自地震灾区的经历过地震的小朋友。

戏剧电影等任何艺术性演出容许使用替身,世界的规...
是不是只要中国办的事,就一定的叫好?否则就"钉在耻辱柱上"?

老邓当年都做不到,硬是把毛否定了。

还是实事求是一些吧。
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