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旧 Mar 2nd, 2008, 23:43   只看该作者   #41
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hp 1012激光打印机竟然没有支持vista
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 01:13   只看该作者   #42
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感觉上HP和Vista都垃圾,最少HP垃圾是肯定的,先卸载了HP的东西才能确定到底是不是Vista的问题,但我对Vista不乐观。。。。
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 09:04   只看该作者   #43
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用win本身驱动就可以呀.

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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 12:26   只看该作者   #44
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这是新的测试结果,看来vista是垃圾级的东西,不过是为硬件厂商卖东西作借口。

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1332&page=4

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1332

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1395

现在丑闻已经泄出来了,MS内部的email也公开了,正在打官司,vista有意欺骗顾客
http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/images/03_data_c.jpg
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 12:31   只看该作者   #45
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现在还为vista辩护,简直就是笑话,正好赶上个大丑闻。从来不看英文新闻的,还是要看啊

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/...oft_combi.html

http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 12:55   只看该作者   #46
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这种东西还是看自己的感觉,评测也只是参考,就像看电影一样,影评人说好的电影你也不一定喜欢,得奥斯卡的电影也不一定你都觉得好看。个人感觉最重要。

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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 13:06   只看该作者   #47
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Vista是个过渡产品,评价很低,和xp当年完全不一样。

xp当年换的是w2k内核,尽管速度不如win98,但稳定性显著提高。而vista并没有带来功能上的什么提升,速度反而下降了,连读文件都比xp要慢得多,不知道有什么好处?(注,win98和xp比不太公平,毕竟fat32和nfts没有可比性,而vista和xp就完全可以一比)。xp其实比win2k不慢的,所以没有这么大规模要求downgrade的

这儿有精确的技术分析测试,这已经不是光用户界面的问题了
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1338
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 14:45   只看该作者   #48
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XP SP2 gets a PassMark rating that’s 8.4% greater than Vista SP1. 片面的比较,仅仅是速度,速度差10-20%很正常,也无所谓。如果光说快,win3.1 winnt都更快。xp的界面怎么能跟vista比?让xp做个vista的3d效果看看,屏幕拷贝个video看看。vista自己带了个测试,如果那些得1分的就说明其硬件不适合装。
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2008, 14:50   只看该作者   #49
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XP SP2 gets a PassMark rating that’s 8.4% greater than Vista SP1. 片面的比较,仅仅是速度,速度差10-20%很正常,也无所谓。如果光说快,win3.1 winnt都更快。xp的界面怎么能跟vista比?让xp做个vista的3d效果看...
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win31 can not run on current hardware.

When I upgraded company's winnt4 to windows2000 many years ago, I found that if the memory is bigger than 128MB, win 2000 is faster than winnt4. well, maybe it was just an illusion.
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哪里下载VISTA SP1?
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Vista真的是垃圾。Aero看上去是不错,可是我宁愿程序一点就出来。速度差10%-20%?要是使用上感觉出差别来那么实际上绝对不止。

被称为安全特性的UAC蠢的个要死,不停的问要不要执行这个,要不要执行哪个,Vista就不能智能一些,能不能在程序真的要往HKLM或者重要目录里写东西是再问?能不能记住用户的选择别没完没了?能不能本来1秒就能拷贝完毕的文件在那里花5秒钟估算需要的时间?
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vista的命运就是另一个win me,其他的就不用多说了。

它是对x2k内核的一次大over haul,这么大的改动,当然你不要指望它一次就改好,等下个版本吧。xp只是把w2k内核统一到所有平台,事情要简单些,内核本身改动并不大。
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我觉得不能用速度来评价vista啊, 要看vista本来应该是在64位走的系统会提供更多强大的功能啊。 问题是vista对市场硬件要求做了折冲,功能很多都在现在的机器上体现不出来,而且还一大堆bug才是最烦的地方,所以过两个月我也"upgrade" laptop 回xp算了。。。。 另外对于HP那些OEM正版,建议大家还是不要用这种次货,宁愿用好的翻版OEM算了。 其实很多大公司都有干净的professional OEM软件的,MS的OEM叫 "Select" 找到这些版本绝对比正版好用。
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很多人有误解,64位和速度毫无关系,甚至不如32位。这和16位升到32位是不一样的,
因为日常生活,32位处理无论浮点数整数,已经是绰绰有余,根本用不着64位,可
以说99%的应用是用不到64位的。

采用64位,是因为CAD和视频编辑的需要,32位只能支持4G内存直接询址,4G现在对
大视频编辑已经是不够了。但对平常人,完全是用不到的。就是现在所谓的64位CPU的
PC,那也只是询址64位,而不是数据64位,除非你的内存过了4G,否则速度不会高。
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可以说99%的应用是用不到64位的。
用过64位电脑的人都能感觉到,速度变快了。例如在64位Windows上执行32位的应用软件,如AdobePhotoshop都会快30%以上。据测试,专门为64位Windows设计的软件可以比32位系统快15%~60%左右,而未来的差距将更大。64位的Windows充分利用了处理器的增强浮点性能,因此在设计软件和游戏性能具有大幅提高,而对于上网、办公软件的速度改善则不明显,但是仍有改善。

Windows64位版本提供了一个可伸缩的高性能平台,这种平台的体系结构可以更有效地处理海量数据,最高可支持16TB的虚拟内存。相对于32位架构4GB的限制,对于进行大量数值计算的用户而言,提高了很多效率。使用64位的Windows,应用程序可以将足够多的数据预加载到虚拟内存中,以便 64位处理器快速访问这些数据。这种特性减少了将数据载入虚拟内存,以及查找读取数据并将数据写入数据存储设备所花费的时间,因此可使应用程序运行得更快、更高效。简单的说只要内存足够,64位电脑运行3D设计软件会快很多,这对于很多广告美工、建筑设计师来说将节省很多时间,每天可高达数小时。
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用过64位电脑的人都能感觉到,速度变快了。例如在64位Windows上执行32位的应用软件,如AdobePhotoshop都会快30%以上。据测试,专门为64位Windows设计的软件可以比32位系统快15%~60%左右,而未来的差距将更大。64位的Windows充分利用了处理器的增强浮点性能,因此...
你用过64位Vista吗?你在Vista x64上运行过什么32位软件?你知不知道Vista x64实际上相当于在同时运行一个64位操作系统和一个32位子系统?你知不知道64位代码和32位代码不能直接互相调用?你知不知道因为这个产生的内存和性能代价有多大?

我天天在Vista x64上测试我们的程序,在全部的程序转为纯64位之前我是不会在家里用64位OS的,特别是该死的Vista。

说起来Vista x64气一堆。System32里面都是64位的东西,SysWow64反而都是32位的东西,File/Registry Redirection bug一堆,32位程序禁止Wow64后打不开文件对话框,简直是垃圾中的垃圾,自己去微软的开发人员网站就知道有多少人抱怨了。
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越来越多的无奈清楚地告诉我们:VISTA就是垃圾,纯属过渡性产品!!!以后VISTA的广告口号一定是:今天你64位了没有???!!!

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你用过64位Vista吗?你在Vista x64上运行过什么32位软件?你知不知道Vista x64实际上相当于在同时运行一个64位操作系统和一个32位子系统?你知不知道64位代码和32位代码不能直接互相调用?你知不知道因为这个产生的内存和性能代价有多大?

我天天在Vista x64上测试我们的程...
我谈的是64位和32位的区别,并非特指vista,很多人对64位电脑的看法还停留在2006年的前的观点上,而事实上现在的64位机在概念上已经有了质的变化。我也不喜欢vista,就好比当年的XP一样,最终你还是要接受它,若干年后另外一个新产品出来估计你又会向今天一样发牢骚,大唱vista的好处。人是善于健忘的,想想当年微软推出XP的时候吧。

所谓的32位与64位实际上是指计算机的寻址空间大小,也就是在一个时钟频率动作下寻找内存做出多少位的计算动作。2的5 次方是32,而6次方则是64,对于采用2进制的计算机运算来说,次方增加一个数字,性能就能大幅度跃升。就如同286PC是16位,跃升到386的32 位的变革一样。16位计算曾经的结局,终究将会是今天32位计算难逃的宿命。32位的计算机最高只能拥有4GB的内存,2003年美国国际数据集团曾经发出报告预测,网络造成的数据海量增长速度将超过32位计算机所能支持的规模,这两者的平衡如果按照目前的曲线渐进地发展,32位的计算机最多能坚持到2005年。对于地质勘探、天气预测类的大型科学运算而言,64位系统的速度和内存优势毋庸质疑。以ExchangeServer为例,在32位的操作系统上,操作系统最大可以寻址3GB内存,而在64位运算平台上,使用同样的ExchangeServer软件至少可以使可调用内存扩大33%,这样就使ExchangeServer在高负载下获得更好的运行效率。64位平台高达180亿GB内存的寻址能力,使其在未来很长一段时间内都可以解决高端应用中存储器寻址的瓶颈。

当您在欣赏令人惊心动魄的科幻大片《星球大战前传III》的时候,您是否想到,我们所看到的这一幕幕亦真亦幻、惟妙惟肖的画面,都出自AMD最新的64位通用计算平台,正是这一平台的低价格与高性能保证了影片的大获成功。
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