听到多大博士在读生的发音依然如此糟糕，我心里很痛心

[Cool_China]

听到多大博士在读生的发音依然如此糟糕，我心里很痛心

我正在多大学习Commerce 和Linguistics 专业。尽管英语口语依然需要提高，但我已过英语发音关。作为一个英语学习者，我非常清楚英语里什麽音对国人来讲是难点。你可能通过2-3年的大量练习最终琢磨出一些发音原理，但其中你也可能走了很多很多的弯路。和我一起学习，你会有一种恍然大悟的感觉。运用我教给你的发音技巧，你的英语发音和口语练习一定会事半功倍。

很多人迷信老外（我以前也一样）。但我切身体会到不是每一个老外可以做老师。他们的音可以发得非常标准，可是他们就是不知如何才能让你也做得和他们一样 --- 这，就是我的使命。

工作经验：曾经在Toronto的一个社区中心教英语对话，发音，和TOEFL.

$20 plus 2学时的学习会让你受益匪浅。衷心祝愿每一个国人在发音上不输给老外。

416-4603168 找 Frank
Email;pleaseyou_69@hotmail.com
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I currently study at the University of Toronto, majoring Commerce and Linguistics. My pronunciation is close to the native, though still having to work on my conversation. As an English learner, I understand which sound in English is hard for the Chinese to pronounce. You might get through this obstacle years later, time-consuming possibly, and then realize how to make correct sounds. But with me, you will find a shortcut to your goal. Pronunciation is not that hard as you might have thought of.

Many of us trust English-speaking people (I did a couple of years before), but not every English C speaking person can be a qualified teacher. They can pronounce English quite accurately, however, they just DO NOT know how to bring you to that point as well. Pushing you to that point is my very mission. I wish that every Chinese wouldn’t lose to English C speaking people on the pronunciation.

WORKING EXPERIENCE: I once taught English conversation, pronunciation, and TOEFL at a community center in East Toronto.

$20 with 2 hours will help you make a big difference. Pronunciation can never be easier.

Frank can be reached either by:

Phone:416-4603168

Email; pleaseyou_69@hotmail.com

[Cool_China]

It is clear that we care our pronunciation; we can see how many clicks we have got here. Communication matters, so does PRONUNCIATION. What I want to do is to share what I've learnt to people who really want it. Again, if you work now, my techniques will further help you effectively communicate with your colleagues.

pleaseyou_69@hotmail.com
416-460-3168

[Cool_China]

作者: rabbitjessy

This morning ,on my way to office , I heard that DJ in the radio to discuss "Accent". Through his interview to many ppl , nowadays speaking English with accent is widely accept by this society now. Some men even mentioned that woman who speak English with accent sound very sexy and charming .

Hi, Jessy,

If you don't care your pronunciation, just disregard my posting. On the course of my studies I've summarized some pitfalls our Chinese always make on English pronuncation.Techniques I've developed to deal with those errors prove really helpful, but it doesn't work for people who are not interested in improving their pronunciation.

Plus, pronunciation is not equal to the accent,e.g., US president speaks a typical Texas accent.

Best.,

[Cool_China]

If you are confident with the pronunciation of the following 2 words, I am sure that your pronunciation is in a higher level.

1)cool
2)China

Seems easy, but NOT.

Have fun , folks!

[Cool_China]

I am pretty sure that we Chinese can pronounce 90% of English words correctly, so don't give up yourself by 'being able to communicate is enough'.

[Cool_China]

作者: yoyozj

Hi! cool_china,

Comparing to syntax, accent doesn't matter that much in communication. If you could speak'correct' English, using the right words, phrases, structures..even if your pronunciation is not perfect, your English is accecptible, that is your personal style. The problem for our Chinese folks' English, is not accents, but verbal and syntax.

To tell you the truth, I feel your English writing is not natural, sound bizarre. So I really doubt you are in a good positon to instruct Ph.D of UT.
English is our second language, believe in life-long learning.buddy.

Yoyoz,

A PH.D candidate of the U of T can instruct me for many things. But I do think some of them should improve their pronunciation. And believe it or not I know a person who speaks quite fluent English. You won't believe that he lives here for only 5 years.

[Cool_China]

作者: 无风絮自飞

这种机会还是您独享吧。"As long as you benefit from his technics，" when you benefit from his technics, share your successful story with us, cheer.

If you do care money, let's time a free session.
Best.,

[Cool_China]

1) Can VS cannot (emphasize on ‘t’)
2) Couldn’t
3) Book VS Luke e.g. book, look, cook
4) (Keep and need), sweet, feed VS fade e.g. key vs ‘K’, a sheet of paper VS boshit
5) Bit VS bait. E.g. river; English
6) Pass VS bother e.g. gather and Micro VS Macro
7) Cool (Ku:l), and school, nofrill. Also, compared ‘oo’ in ‘cool’ to that in ‘book’ (buk)
8) Love ('L)
9) Think VS kitchen sink; e.g. there and brother, father (bite your tongue, please J)
Think VS this, that, these, those. Cloth VS clothe (open syllable, and close syllable)
10) New York and word
11) World
12) China and media VS idea
13) Strategy ‘te’, ‘gy’; Toronto; city; university; water
14) Bike VS back
15) My mind
16) Good
17) Perfect, prefer ‘c’ and ‘pre’ in the second word
18) Excuse me
19) Because (Canadian variance)
20) My --- Micro
21) +S, nasal and non-nasal relation, e.g. maps, cooks, and bags , computers.
Plus, ‘stressed’ vs ‘bagged’

Drills:
I can do it

I cannoT do it !!! J

I couldn’t find it
Beet, bit, bait, bet, bat, but
Toronto, tomato, potato
City, twenty, pity, ability
University of Toronto is near College Street; union: onion: opinion
I love this cat
I say she says…
Thanks, I think that’s a very good idea
I will help you make a big difference
One coin, one corn
Why do English-speaking people have much more facial expression when they talk？ You might think they are too emotional. But, related to the nature of English pronunciation. Comparing Chinese to English.
Vowels, including a, e, i, o, u must be stressed, plus dip
Consonants: keep in mind ‘d’, ‘t’, ‘k’, ’p’, ‘g’,’m’, and ‘n’ at the end of word. E.g. bag, back, green, column. One coin, one corn. Aime;bime,cime, dime,fime;hime; (substitute p, t, k, g for m)

[Cool_China]

作者: sunvv

楼主，可不可以告诉我类似50、60、70应该怎么发音呢？

talk to you later.
Best.,

[Cool_China]

作者: giraffe

Why don't you give a free seminar for one or two hours, that way who ever are interested can give a try.

Hi, Giraffe,
Are you doing your master degree at the U of T? Just wondering, maybe we know each other. )
Okay, your suggestion sounds fine. Give me a call at 416-460-3168
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

作者: fushao

这话爱听.

怀才就像怀孕，时间久了才能让人看出来。


'怀才不遇'怎讲？哈哈。
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

作者: sunvv

有必要这么藏着么? 在这里写上音标也不行么

Yes, I wanna make sure you pronounce correctly. Anyhow, I am just a phone call away.
Best.,

[Cool_China]

作者: fushao

象您,哈哈!

No kidding. I am NOT.

[Cool_China]

作者: giraffe

You are definitely thinking of someone else.
I'd love to come to your free seminar if there is one. my English is not bad, but how doesn't want get better?

If you have time this Thursday 6pm, come to my home. So far there are 3 people who decide to come over. And I am sure you also have a lot to share with us. Plus, the meeting's free.
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

若是单求长字,生字,看起来文雅好听的僻字,头一步便走错了

近年国内学英语风气甚盛 ,无论在中学,在大学,或在自修,多少莘莘学子都在用功夫,日求进益,我想据我个人的经验,谈谈这个中的关系。

四十年前我在德国,听过柏林大学教出来的操华语的德国人,听起来象在北京长大的,但他们都是成年以后才学的;同时我在上海所见到的留过学的中学英文教员,文法冼练极了,分析词句精透了,而说出英文,毫不地道。

有人以为目标在了解阅读,不在口讲,这是把问题看错了,学习英文的目标,只在清顺自然四字而已。凡不以口语为基础的人,一定写不出平易自然,纯熟地道的英文。前英国首相丘吉尔可算英文大家,他有名的句子:We shall fight on the hills. We shall fight in the streets. We shall fight blood and sweat and tears。这是多么矫健的句子!何尝有一个不是小学生所能用的字?又何尝有一字夸词浮句?中国人写英文,寻章摘句,多用深句,所以才学不好。例如对人十分佩服,你说I admire him profoundly。便是古人做文章的做法,因为英美人士并不这样讲,用admire greatly才是自然,而用I take off my hat to him.才是真正地道的英文。

你要明白英语言文一致,而骨子里是白话.愈平易自然愈好,愈少粉饰藻丽语句愈好,愈近清顺口语愈好,愈能念出来顺口成章愈好。中国人写英文,能写到这个地步的就不多,你写出来,外国人念下去象外国人写,就不容易,所以难能可贵,就在这一点.中国人要写英文,必先淘汰古人"做文章"的观念,才能打稳正当的英文基础.因此我们必须以口语入手 ,才能掌握个中窍门。

大家要注意常用字及口语的用法;英文那个"有"字,当然有have,而口语却是have got ( Have you got any money?) 老外这样说,我们只好这样写! Forget about it(算了)!也是一种口语. You are telling me (我还得等你说)?也是一种口语. Not a chance (绝不会)也是一种口语。这四个单字got, forget, tell, chance都是极平常的字,而运用在口语中,却是学好英文的最重要的部分!若是单求长字,生字,看起来文雅好听的僻字,头一步便走错了.所以说善于灵活运用平常的字,是学习英文的不二法门。

By 林语堂

I hope this article is helpful to everyone.
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

作者: jlr

感觉楼主的确有料。而且楼主提起的一个来加拿大5年并说极为流利英语的小伙子我也许也见过。
不知道为什么有人说楼主的英文书写别扭，我看是自己不懂才不会欣赏别人。
在回帖的人里，cwo是顶顶大名的我佩服之人（其实如果各位去英语板块的应该也不会不认识我）
大家认为与中国人学英语很可笑，其实绝对不然，为什么？因为任何一个老外的确可以教你英语，可是那没有说服力，因为你会认为他天生就应该说得这么好，而我们的同胞说的流利英语才具备说服力。
再者，认为什么印度人的口音比我们重的真的是大错特错！我毫不客气的说，凡是嘲笑印度人英语的自己的英语绝对不行!如果我给印度和中国的英语打分，印度可以拿80分，而我们的同胞，我只能给到平均40分，真的。

CWO是个热心人。他的有关Moncton帖子对各位移民朋友是很有帮助的。要是那一天我也觉得厌了，一定也要找一个安安静静的小地方去享受大自然。
猛然想起了另外一位豪侠。 那就是‘意气风发‘。也不知道这麽意气的一个人现在风发到哪去了。本人收录了很多他的帖子，现贴出其中一篇。
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我本人记住过去的英语老师的教导，现在与你共享：

1)真正的听懂的标志是你具有复述一遍的能力，不是toefl的选择题；也不是你和老外谈话的感觉，因为老外和我们这些老外说话时的用词和他们之间的很多不同---不要相信老外礼节性的赞扬；
2)能够复述的能力是你的口语的基本能力----大意复述，段落复述，句子复述，做到句子复述，水平就基本到了；
3)英语思维是口语的突破口---大量的阅读帮助口语，当然，不要阅读相当于NC第三册以上的文章；
4)嘴部声带极其肌肉的活动是口语的生理条件----每天念至少一个时间段；
5)长期学习口语是口语提高的历史条件。

没有办法说怎么做，这和你的口语的要求，你的目标以及你的时间都有关系。
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希望大家共勉！！！别闹
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

作者: rabbitjessy

Hi Cool china

I heard that Giraffe phoned you , What do you think about her English ? She is my idol though. I thought her English is pretty good. I didn't dream too much, if my English pronucation can reach 50% of her level, I will be pretty happy.

So do I. I mean her English is good enough. You can make a big move on the pronunciation if you really put some energy on it.
Cheers!

[Cool_China]

作者: erguotou

其实是楼主与诸位讨论的不是口音，而是多数人易出现的错音域混淆音。口音没关系，只是发音不够到位，如印度或东欧人等，不太严重则不影响交流。而我们由于与西方语系的巨大差别和国内师资水平参差不齐，许多人的发音与英语相差甚远，尤其是简单口语里的基本词，难免影响正常交流，本人便是如此。我相信楼主有独到的方法帮助正音，很想找机会获得指点。

Cool_China，我不在多伦多，等方便时再与您约。

No problem. You can count on it.
All the best.

[Cool_China]

Book a free session, call 416-4603168, and email pleaseyou_69@hotmail.com

Time: 6pm,Thursady (April 14, 2005)

[Cool_China]

作者: newcandle

到底有没有斑竹了??????????
又是这种赚钱的帖子,同一内容到处发,在"语言"区我也看到,应该去到广告区里去,这个人我虽然没见过但很反感,你有什么好方法说出来啊,兜兜藏藏的,又不停地回帖,老是占据你的眼球.到底有没有斑竹了?
你的e-mail应该是pleaseme@hotmail.com

I think you haven't yet seen this posting.

For practice:
1) Can VS cannot (emphasize on ‘t’)
2) Couldn’t
3) Book VS Luke e.g. book, look, cook
4) (Keep and need), sweet, feed VS fade e.g. key vs ‘K’, a sheet of paper VS boshit
5) Bit VS bait. E.g. river; English
6) Pass VS bother e.g. gather and Micro VS Macro
7) Cool (Ku:l), and school, nofrill. Also, compared ‘oo’ in ‘cool’ to that in ‘book’ (buk)
8) Love ('L)
9) Think VS kitchen sink; e.g. there and brother, father (bite your tongue, please J)
Think VS this, that, these, those. Cloth VS clothe (open syllable, and close syllable)
10) New York and word
11) World
12) China and media VS idea
13) Strategy ‘te’, ‘gy’; Toronto; city; university; water
14) Bike VS back
15) My mind
16) Good
17) Perfect, prefer ‘c’ and ‘pre’ in the second word
18) Excuse me
19) Because (Canadian variance)
20) My --- Micro
21) +S, nasal and non-nasal relation, e.g. maps, cooks, and bags , computers.
Plus, ‘stressed’ vs ‘bagged’

Drills:
I can do it

I cannoT do it !!! J

I couldn’t find it
Beet, bit, bait, bet, bat, but
Toronto, tomato, potato
City, twenty, pity, ability
University of Toronto is near College Street; union: onion: opinion
I love this cat
I say she says…
Thanks, I think that’s a very good idea
I will help you make a big difference
One coin, one corn
Why do English-speaking people have much more facial expression when they talk？ You might think they are too emotional. But, related to the nature of English pronunciation. Comparing Chinese to English.
Vowels, including a, e, i, o, u must be stressed, plus dip
Consonants: keep in mind ‘d’, ‘t’, ‘k’, ’p’, ‘g’,’m’, and ‘n’ at the end of word. E.g. bag, back, green, column. One coin, one corn. Aime;bime,cime, dime,fime;hime; (substitute p, t, k, g for m)
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截止到目前为止，除了一位老兄硬要给20刀，我并没收别的移民朋友的钱啊。一句话，钱是小事，能不能帮到你才是大事！