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Talking J.D. POWER 的质量长期跟踪报告(2002-2005)

J.D. POWER以前只跟踪出厂90天的质量问题报告, 但是现在已经是跟踪三年了, 数据应该会更加科学和准确

那么过去三年内(2002-2005), 平均每一百辆车, 各个牌子到底REPORT了多少个质量问题呢?

来自J.D. POWER的质量长期跟踪报告的答案是: TOYOTA 194个问题, HONDA 201个问题, FORD 231个问题, CHRYSLER 235个问题, 质量是有差距的, 但是并非天地之别, 平均1.94个问题一辆车, 对比2.35个问题一辆车

那么GM的数据呢? 嘿嘿, GM集团比较巨大, 属下牌子众多, BUICK, CADILLAC都是位于前5名, 其中的中档车品牌BUICK以区区163个问题, 领先了TOYOTA好几名, 另一著名大众品牌CHEVROLET是232个问题

详细报告:
http://www.cartest.ca/2005_most_reliable_vehicles.htm

还有CNN的新闻 "Fact check: Are American cars really that bad?" :
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/23/Autos/american_cars/

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旧 Jan 26th, 2006, 13:09   只看该作者   #2
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J.D. POWER以前只跟踪出厂90天的质量问题报告, 但是现在已经是跟踪三年了, 数据应该会更加科学和准确

那么过去三年内(2002-2005), 平均每一百辆车, 各个牌子到底REPORT了多少个质量问题呢?

来自J.D. POWER的质量长期跟踪报告的答案是: TOYOTA 194个问题, HONDA 201个问题, FORD 231个问题, CHRYSLER 235个问题, 质量是有差距的, 但是并非天地之别, 平均1.94个问题一辆车, 对比2.35个问题一辆车

那么GM的数据呢? 嘿嘿, GM集团比较巨大, 属下牌子众多, LINCOIN, BUICK, CADILLAC都是位于前5名, 其中的中档车品牌BUICK以区区163个问题, 领先了TOYOTA好几名, 另一著名大众品牌CHEVROLET是232个问题

详细报告:
http://www.cartest.ca/2005_most_reliable_vehicles.htm

还有CNN的新闻 "Fact check: Are American cars really that bad?" :
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/23/Autos/american_cars/
顶一下。

我看过这个报告,当时没有狗兄的觉悟,没有认识到应该介绍给大家,回家自己检讨一下
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顶一下。

我看过这个报告,当时没有狗兄的觉悟,没有认识到应该介绍给大家,回家自己检讨一下
Fact check: Are American cars really that bad?
Take a good look at vehicle reliability data and the answer may surprise you.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney staff writer
January 25, 2006: 9:44 PM EST


本狗其实是在看CNN NEWS, 其中昨天晚上9:44PM的这个新闻吸引了我, 就追过去看看J.D.的详细报告到底是什么玩艺
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旧 Jan 26th, 2006, 13:47   只看该作者   #4
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这个报告还是很权威的。
说来说去,有钱就去买好车。
好牌子的车问题就少一些,无论是日本还是美国的。
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旧 Jan 26th, 2006, 18:12   只看该作者   #5
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最权威的是consumer reports,报告也更详细,涉及到那部分的问题等。但那个网站收费的。
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旧 Jan 26th, 2006, 18:13   只看该作者   #6
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msn auto也不错。
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旧 Jan 26th, 2006, 19:00   只看该作者   #7
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不知道这里的马自达怎样,国内的M6很好,我朋友有一辆,大学同学给他老婆买一辆,可惜是自动档的。

样子还好,但不知是否经得起考验。
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旧 Jan 27th, 2006, 09:10   只看该作者   #8
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不知道这里的马自达怎样,国内的M6很好,我朋友有一辆,大学同学给他老婆买一辆,可惜是自动档的。

样子还好,但不知是否经得起考验。
do you mean Mazda MX-6? Don't buy it. Here are some qulity report about its engine and transmission from MSN Auto:

Engine: Occasional problems on this vehicle are failures of the Distributor (2.5L Engine Only), the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Passages and the Catalytic Converter. Failure of the Distributor can cause a no start or stall while driving. Failure of the EGR Valve Passages and Catalytic Converter will cause the check engine light to illuminate. The cost to repair the Distributor is estimated at $308.40 for parts and $78.00 for labor. The cost to repair the EGR Valve Passages is estimated at $15.00 for parts and $117.00 for labor. The cost to repair the Catalytic Converter is estimated at $550.00 for parts and $65.00 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

Transmission & Driveline: A common problem on this vehicle is failure of the Automatic Transmission (2.0L engine only). When the Automatic Transmission fails the overdrive light may flash. The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $1722.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $364.00 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

If you meant Mazda 6, that is another story. But overall Mazda doesn't have good reputation except Mazda 3.
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do you mean Mazda MX-6? Don't buy it. Here are some qulity report about its engine and transmission from MSN Auto:

Engine: Occasional problems on this vehicle are failures of the Distributor (2.5L Engine Only), the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Passages and the Catalytic Converter. Failure of the Distributor can cause a no start or stall while driving. Failure of the EGR Valve Passages and Catalytic Converter will cause the check engine light to illuminate. The cost to repair the Distributor is estimated at $308.40 for parts and $78.00 for labor. The cost to repair the EGR Valve Passages is estimated at $15.00 for parts and $117.00 for labor. The cost to repair the Catalytic Converter is estimated at $550.00 for parts and $65.00 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

Transmission & Driveline: A common problem on this vehicle is failure of the Automatic Transmission (2.0L engine only). When the Automatic Transmission fails the overdrive light may flash. The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $1722.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $364.00 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

If you meant Mazda 6, that is another story. But overall Mazda doesn't have good reputation except Mazda 3.
I will keep away from any mazda. So many sad stories from them.
I know they are good looking cars.
I wish toyota could have same kind of shape like mazda3or6.
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两田著名的camcord怎么连前三名都没上去呀?
corvic在前三里也不见踪影,只有一个烤肉的姐妹,还是美国品牌
看来日本车质量好确实需要画一个大大的?
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两田著名的camcord怎么连前三名都没上去呀?
corvic在前三里也不见踪影,只有一个烤肉的姐妹,还是美国品牌
看来日本车质量好确实需要画一个大大的?
How many euro brand there above average? 2.
Who said euro cars are best in quality?
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世界人民都是傻子,买贵不买好,呵呵
俺有过一辆别克,据说是北美最不容易挨盗的车种之一(老人车),于是没有上防盗险,再然后他就让人偷了,撞勒,偷偷裸视,俺那个伤心啊!
从此再不相信那些所谓的调查。

好好学习,天天向上
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世界人民都是傻子,买贵不买好,呵呵
俺有过一辆别克,据说是北美最不容易挨盗的车种之一(老人车),于是没有上防盗险,再然后他就让人偷了,撞勒,偷偷裸视,俺那个伤心啊!
从此再不相信那些所谓的调查。

呵呵,是你个人的问题还是调查的问题?
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