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旧 Apr 16th, 2011, 21:33   只看该作者   #21
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想找议员帮我做点事情,肯帮忙就投她的票(自由党)!不肯帮忙就投保守党。最恨自由党的省长,把两税合并。还声称自己没有违背竞选承诺不加税的诺言,他说只是把两个税合并在一起了,根本就没加税!真TMD流氓!
不管你选不选那个议员,他/她都应该为你做事,当然首先要合法。加税不流氓,加了还要说没加还换个说法就真的是很流氓了
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對保守黨的醫改提議不太明白,根據數字要砍掉很多項目省一大筆錢,這省下的錢幹啥用?都要砍哪些項目?俺老覺得項目太多了不好,可真要跟美國那樣也不好。

根據保守黨執政的情況看,加拿大在本次經濟危機中表現的不錯,應該選保守黨。

還有根據統計,去年華人選民只有10%投了票,顯然不夠積極,這樣各政黨怎麼會在未來執政方案的制定中考慮華人的利益?

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Smile my weightless vote

2007 when I submit the sponsorship application, it requires 23months, today I am still waiting and the processing time increased to 43months, just because of this, I want a change. I will use my weightless vote to stop Harper from getting a majority at least.
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记得上次大选时,报载哈伯到温哥华某大陆移民家拉选票,说对中国人早就了解(接触?),因为自己家的佣人就是中国人!真不知他是取悦中国人还是羞辱中国人!还记得那次千人间谍事件及08奥运会开幕式抵制事件,就冲这个,咋地都不会投保守党!!!

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记得上次大选时,报载哈伯到温哥华某大陆移民家拉选票,说对中国人早就了解(接触?),因为自己家的佣人就是中国人!真不知他是取悦中国人还是羞辱中国人!还记得那次千人间谍事件及08奥运会开幕式抵制事件,就冲这个,咋地都不会投保守党!!!

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Cool [游客](24.57.x.x) 發表于 2011/4/14

有那麼一群反華sb人士不停在加拿大和美國各大網站罵中國貪官怎樣怎樣?同時又支持保守黨的保守移民政策(不信你們去加拿大家園論壇看看),你說的這樣移民政策是好政策,保守黨能同意嗎?樓上的反華sb能同意嗎?這群反華狗一方面罵中國的貪官,一方面怕中國的技術移民來多了和他們搶福利(當然他們非常怕競爭),不信你看樓上反華的大部分都會去投保守黨的票。樓上那些罵中國人炒房子的,你們知道中國的房價是誰炒起來的嗎!最早都是些外資機構和外籍華裔(按照你們的說法他們走哪兒過都是禍害?),把中國房價炒起來了,中國人為什麼不能來加拿大買房子,難道他們都是傻子加拿大房子比中國便宜為什麼不買。中國大城市有房產的普通人賣掉中國的房產就可以在加拿大買房子,難道他們的錢都是靠坑蒙拐騙來的,他們買賣房子開名車用汽油的費用交得稅會少過打工嗎?有什麼看不習慣的,有本事把保守黨選下去,否則以後加拿大就是富豪的天下,這個富豪移民政策是你們選出保守黨干的事,有什麼好叫的。
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Cool 建议加拿大保守党不要再提"小政府"理念 一提就容易使人发笑

http://forum.iask.ca/showthread.php?t=446489

加拿大马上要大选了,保守党的Fans们又开始提自己"小政府"的理念了。

建议加拿大保守党以后不要再提"小政府"理念 ,因为说哈珀是小政府简直是笑死人。

保守党政府在G20上面一天花的钱,比一年花在长者上面的钱还要多。这一次联邦预算案要不是NDP林顿逼迫,预算案也不会对低收入的长者增加福利的。

保守党实质上是要在加拿大实施丛林法则,弱肉强食。任由保守党的支持者(市场强者)弱肉强食,政府放弃给弱者提供保护的责任。

有人说,保守党是执政党,是加拿大的主流民意,你这样说有什么用。其实保守党从来不是加拿大的主流民意,在加拿大获得超过40%的选票,就可以是多数党政府。而过去5年的历次民调和大选,保守党都没有超过40%。超过60%的选民都是支持左翼政党的,只不过左翼四分五裂,最大反对党自由党目前青黄不接,无人才而已。同时保守党也是通过整合右翼政党上台的,以前哈珀所在的党就是极右翼政党,吞并了原来的保守党。

加拿大政府每年3000亿的预算案, 你们知道什么东西最费钱嘛?是国债/赤字导致的利息,这就是哈珀大政府的恶果,挥霍空前政府10年努力留下来的财政盈余,向未来借钱。在这样大的赤字情况下,还去花300亿买战机。买战机干什么?利比亚撤侨的时候多跑几趟空机?

什么老人福利,新移民补贴根本都是浮云,占的比重不足一提,还不及G20一天呢。

再回到民主体制上,哈珀都有胆关闭国会(他当总理是因为保守党是国会最多议员的党),是英联邦历史上第一个被认定藐视国会的政府,这样下去,加拿大民主基石会不会动摇(想想英国议会制有多少年,历史上有多少少数政府,就出来一个哈珀藐视国会?)。

上一次哈珀关闭国会,不就是想切断反对党的那几百万吗?历史上从来没有政党这样狠的,要是多数党的,少数党估计更没有活路了,也不用什么民主了,直接断反对党的政府补贴。

看看下面哈珀政府的丑闻?有一个它敢出来否认的吗?不就是靠着钱多+掌权,做广告洗脑吗?
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政治上:

乾坤挪移的资金操作蒙骗加拿大选举局,被上诉庭裁决违法;
总理的前高级助理涉嫌非法游说利用关系替22岁妓女女友走后门,被骑警调查;
国际合作部长改动文件,欺瞒国会被国会调查;
移民部长借用政府资源为政党竞选拉票,因职员摆乌龙而被揭穿;
面对公众质询,多次拒绝提供具体资料,多次被国会裁定违反民主…….

有评论人士认为,哈伯政府已经显示腐化迹象:在金钱上瞒天过海,在运作上假公济私党政不分、利用纳税人资源为政党选举服务,关闭和藐视国会,凌驾于国家民主体制之上。

经济上:
经济政策上,批评人士也指哈珀政府实际上实施的是大政府、大消费政策。大肆烧钱幅度令人惊异,与“保守党”的小政府口号相差甚远:

烧钱近300亿扩展军备、烧钱20亿修建超级监狱,G20峰会突击花钱10亿。

另外哈珀不断自己的议员封官、形成庞大内阁,同时把前任政府10年努力留下来的财政盈余吃空,向未来借钱,创造了巨额赤字。

再来看加拿大最近10年来的GDP增长情况:
2000 +5.2%
2001 +1.8%
2002 +2.9%
2003 +1.9%
2004 +3.1%
2005 +3.0%
2006 +2.8%
2007 +2.2%
2008 +0.5%
2009 -2.5%

由此可知, GDP在自由党执政时期一直处于上升, 而在保守党接手(2006年)后逐渐下滑, 并且出现负增长.

两个政党, 哪个更会搞经济, 不言而喻.
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再来看加拿大最近10年来的GDP增长情况:
2000 +5.2%
2001 +1.8%
2002 +2.9%
2003 +1.9%
2004 +3.1%
2005 +3.0%
2006 +2.8%
2007 +2.2%
2008 +0.5%
2009 -2.5%
联邦统计局最新发布的数据显示,2010年第4季度GDP(国民生产总值)增长3.3%,大大高出第三季的1.8%;而全年GDP则增长3.1%,扭转了2009年2.5%的跌幅。

我觉得你是个别有用心的人,偷换概念,断章取义去迷惑大家去投自由党。
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记得上次大选时,报载哈伯到温哥华某大陆移民家拉选票,说对中国人早就了解(接触?),因为自己家的佣人就是中国人!真不知他是取悦中国人还是羞辱中国人!还记得那次千人间谍事件及08奥运会开幕式抵制事件,就冲这个,咋地都不会投保守党!!!
你的意思是佣人就是下等人?

要注意的是对中国政府友好和对中国人友好是两个概念。记得当年中国救灾,加拿大政府捐赠在世界政府中排第二。
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联邦统计局最新发布的数据显示,2010年第4季度GDP(国民生产总值)增长3.3%,大大高出第三季的1.8%;而全年GDP则增长3.1%,扭转了2009年2.5%的跌幅。

我觉得你是个别有用心的人,偷换概念,断章取义去迷惑大家去投自由党。...
同意,别忘了还有世界金融危机。各政党的劣迹都很多,关键政党主体政策对自己利弊多少。保守党的赤字,自由党的税。税收多了自然能弥补赤字。
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對保守黨的醫改提議不太明白,根據數字要砍掉很多項目省一大筆錢,這省下的錢幹啥用?都要砍哪些項目?俺老覺得項目太多了不好,可真要跟美國那樣也不好。

根據保守黨執政的情況看,加拿大在本次經濟危機中表現的不錯,應該選保守黨。

還有根據統計,去年華人選民只有10%投了票,顯然不夠積極,這樣各政黨...
这正是华人的问题,本来就是少数族裔,也没人组织活动,甚至不去投票。人家什么这协会那组织都上街让各政党看到他们的存在,考虑他们利益。
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http://www.foxs-news.com/why-do-cons...istics-canada/

Why do Conservatives hate Statistics Canada?

The answer is: they hate it because that independent government agency produces statistics and facts that go against their ideological narrative, with this report on corporate tax cuts being the latest example:

Corporate tax cuts are becoming a major issue in the federal election campaign. The Conservatives, arguing that they are the best custodians of an economy that remains fragile after the recession, say tax cuts are crucial to stimulate job creation and make Canada more competitive on the global stage.. But an analysis of Statistics Canada figures by The Globe and Mail reveals that the rate of investment in machinery and equipment has declined in lockstep with falling corporate tax rates over the past decade. At the same time, the analysis shows, businesses have added $83-billion to their cash reserves since the onset of the recession in 2008.

In other-wards, corporations are hoarding the money they’ve gotten from these corporate tax cuts and not reinvesting it, and this appears not to be a recent trend. The report flies in the face of Conservative claims that tax cuts spur corporate and business economic growth and that a reversal of the tax rate by a couple of points will jeopardize a recovery. The only thing it appears will be jeopardized will be additional hoarding.

Facts and Conservative ideology don’t mix. This is one reason I believe the mandatory long-from census was destroyed; it was an attempt to skew data and statistics so that it would be harder to argue against the Conservative government’s argument. you see another example of reality-based reports from StasCan on corporate tax cuts. Expect the budget for StatsCan to be slashed even more by this government if it’s given free reign to do so.
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Every day I hear claims from conservatives that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs and stimulates the economy. I have yet to see any substantial proof of this. Last time I checked our economy was based on supply and demand. You can have all the money in the world but if no one has the money to buy your product you wont be selling anything. According to the facts it's actually the middle class consumer who stimulates the economy more than anything else.
Being pro-business is not the same as supporting tax breaks for the wealthy. I would love to see massive amounts of tax breaks given to small business that hire people in their local neighborhood rather than huge tax breaks for juggernaut corporations that send jobs overseas and fund corrupt politicians.
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Do Corporate Tax Cuts Create Jobs?

Canada’s major newspapers have weighed in on the corporate tax debate in recent days:

Here is a Toronto Star piece.
Here is the National Post piece.
And here is a Globe and Mail piece, and another Globe column by Jeffrey Simpson.

If anything is clear from these stories, it is that there is considerable doubt among economists that corporate tax cuts create jobs or even cause employers to invest more in their Canadian operations. Jeffrey Simpson of the Globe notes that, according to the OECD (hardly a left-wing bastion), there is no discernible link between corporate tax rates and unemployment levels in the advanced economic countries.

So why do the Conservatives keep telling everyone that the Canadian economy will crumble unless corporations are given even more of break on taxes?

The Conservatives are promising to cut corporate tax rates even lower than the current rate of 16.5%, which is way down from 28% in 1990. The Conservatives insist that there is a direct link between a corporate tax cut and the number of jobs created, even though unlike the Liberals, they are not interested in attaching the tax cuts to actual job creation. In other words, under the Tory plan, corporations get the tax cuts even if they substantially reduce Canadian employment levels. “We will not raise taxes on growth”, said the Tory Finance Minister when asked about the benefit of continuing to cut corporate taxes year after year. Meanwhile, both the NDP and the Liberals have promised to stop the corporate tax cuts and use the increased revenues to pay for more services. Neither party accepts the Tory claims that tax cuts = job growth.

So, do corporate tax cuts increase employment?

The Tories’ claim that they do is based on the basic assumption that tax cuts give employers more cash, which will translate into more hiring. Does this make sense to you? This could happen. If employers need more employees, but they are unable to hire more due to a lack the cash, then a tax cut could enable those hirings. Of course, many employers don’t hire more people because they don’t need more people. They prefer to have as few employees as possible to perform the work needed, so that there is more money for profits, executive pay, and shareholders. So there is no reason whatsoever to believe that tax cuts will cause employers to hire more people. There are a myriad of other things employers might do with the extra money other than hire more workers, and no reason to believe hiring is even high on that list. The odds of a tax cut leading an employer to hire more Canadian workers is no greater than, and probably less than, the odds of that employer using the extra money to add to savings, pay higher executive bonuses, or buy a new machine for their factory in Texas or Mexico. Moreover, there are myriad factors that influence whether employers hire more workers that are completely unrelated to tax rates, so that it is virtually impossible to “prove” a linkage between tax cuts and hiring levels.

Its possible that if Canada lowered its tax rates to almost nothing, that some companies might decide to build new factories here. But good luck proving that tax cuts are driving all sorts of businesses to flock to Canada. If Canada’s tax rates were WAY higher than other Western economically advanced countries’, then the tax rate could certainly be a factor in where a company invests. But Canada is already extremely competitive in terms of international corporate tax rates, so we are only talking about making it marginally lower. Canada already offers a significant benefit to employers through our publicly funded health care system (paid for by taxes, by the way). In other countries employers burden health care costs themselves. And there will always be countries with lower taxes and lower wage workers than Canada for businesses that make investment decisions based on costs. In other words, the Conservative argument that corporate tax cuts will lead to more Canadian jobs is an argument based on faith and hope, not science or even sound economics.

The two studies referred to in the newspaper clippings suggest that in fact employers do not use money saved in tax cuts to either hire new workers or invest in new machinery or equipment. Instead, the money appears to go into savings, which do not benefit you or I at all. We know also that income inequality and poverty in Canada have been growing at alarming rates (according to the OECD) over the same period that corporate tax rates have been falling. Tax cuts are not free–we all pay for them in cuts to public services, which effects our quality of life.
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Tory tax cuts could trigger election

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Les Whittington and Susan Delacourt Ottawa Bureau

OTTAWA—A clash over Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s plan to provide corporations with billions of dollars worth of extra tax cuts is heating up as the Liberals and other opposition parties ready for a possible election after the federal budget in March.

As nearly a dozen Conservative cabinet ministers launched a cross-country blitz to defend their tax policy, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said Ottawa should be worrying more about middle-class families than corporations.

“The Conservatives’ proposal is to cut tax on the richest and most powerful corporations in the country — to give them a break. And what we say is that we need to give a break to ordinary Canadian families,” Ignatieff said at the end of a two-day Liberal caucus meeting.

The government’s decision to go ahead with another $6 billion in corporate tax cuts next year despite running a record deficit of $56 billion is shaping up as a possible defining issue in an election that could emerge within a few months.

Since 2007, the Harper government has been gradually reducing the corporate income tax rate from 22 per cent to 16.5 per cent as of Jan. 1. In 2012, it will fall to 15 per cent.

It’s part of a raft of business tax reductions brought in by the Conservatives that will deprive Ottawa of an estimated $60 billion in foregone tax revenue by 2013.

The Liberals and NDP argue it’s foolish to continue phasing in the tax cuts at a time when Ottawa’s finances are in turmoil and Canadian businesses taxes have already been brought down in line with other industrial countries.

“These big corporations are already profitable,” Ignatieff said. “Canadian corporate tax rates are already competitive. They don’t need them now and we’re in a $56 billion hole.

“You can cut corporate tax when you’re in a surplus. Cutting it in a deficit adds to Canada’s financial woes.”

The Liberals would roll back the latest business tax cut, leaving the corporate income tax rate at 18 per cent. The $6 billion dollars in extra federal tax revenue would be used to bolster education, family care and pensions, Liberals say.

“We think the way to create jobs is to invest in post-secondary education and help small and medium enterprises to become more competitive and take on more workers,” Ignatieff said.

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has been widely criticized for going ahead with corporate tax cuts at a time when the government is bringing in a $1.3 billion increase in so-called payroll taxes — the Employment Insurance premiums paid by employers and workers. Such increases can lead to the loss of tens of thousands of jobs, according to the Canadian Federation of Independent Business.

In Oshawa Wednesday, Flaherty said lower business taxes will draw investment into Canada and spur companies to help the economy by investing in plant and machinery.

“If we want more jobs, higher wages, an improved standard of living for all of us, Canada needs to be an attractive place for job-creators to do business and invest,” Flaherty said, using the Conservatives’ new “job-creators” label for corporations.

The Liberal plan to partly reverse the Harper government’s gradual corporate tax reductions would put new and existing jobs at risk, Flaherty said.

Tax cuts for business could flare into a make-or-break issue for Harper’s minority government. The Liberals are vowing to vote against the budget, expected in March, if the Conservatives don’t partly rescind the corporate tax breaks. The Bloc Québécois is against corporate tax breaks and is also demanding $6 billion in new financial goodies for Quebec.

So, the New Democrats may hold the wild cards in a confidence vote on the budget — a vote that if lost by the government would trigger an election.

The NDP is against more tax support for corporate Canada but might keep Harper in power if the Conservatives respond positively to some of NDP Leader Jack Layton’s budget demands, which call for pension improvements, reduced heating fuel costs and continued eco-renovation tax breaks.

While big business has come out strongly in favour of corporate tax cuts, Parliament’s independent economic expert slammed the idea that more corporate income tax cuts will create a wave of economic growth and jobs.

The impact of reducing corporate taxes on economic expansion and jobs is negligible, Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page said at a pre-budget debate in Ottawa.

Page cited a finance department analysis showing that corporate income tax cuts were much less productive as a short-term driver of economic growth than other aspects of the Conservatives’ economic stimulus spending in 2009 and 2010. Investment in infrastructure, housing, support for the unemployed and low-income households, and Employment Insurance premiums were all more effective in stoking the economy in the short term than corporate tax cuts, the finance department concluded.

Canadian Auto Workers economist Jim Stanford, who also spoke at the pre-budget debate held by Ottawa-based Canada 2020, said the idea that corporate income tax cuts will pay for themselves is “nonsense.”

He also disputed the notion that the economy and workers will benefit from increased business investment as companies have more profits to spend to expand and improve their operations.

By next year, federal taxes on corporate income will have been cut nearly in half from 2000, said Stanford. Yet, despite a decade of corporate tax cuts, business investment, a key ingredient in a healthy, growing economy, has been lagging, he said.

“Companies aren’t even reinvesting the money they are getting now.”
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Cool Harper immigration record.

On immigration, both Ignatieff and Layton took aim at the policies of the Conservatives. Ignatieff said his father might not have been able to enter the country under the Tories' policies, while Layton echoed that his mother-in-law may also not have been welcomed.

"How can we regard it as somehow acceptable that a family has to wait for 10 years for their mother or father to come and join them? That is just so wrong," Layton said

The New Democrat leader said he looks to the example of his wife Olivia Chow’s mother "who lives with us, lived with us for 20 years." "Thank goodness she wasn’t applying to come here now because she might never have got to see my granddaughter," Layton said. "That’s simply wrong and it’s tearing families apart."
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有那麼一群反華sb人士不停在加拿大和美國各大網站罵中國貪官怎樣怎樣?同時又支持保守黨的保守移民政策(不信你們去加拿大家園論壇看看),你說的這樣移民政策是好政策,保守黨能同意嗎?樓上的反華sb能同意嗎?這群反華狗一方面罵中國的貪官,一方面怕中國的技術移民來多了和他們搶福利(當然他們非常怕競爭),不信你...
你说你是反加的sb人士.人家是离开中国了批判卖国独裁者只是反中但不SB.你来加拿大反加是真SB.

按你说的,批判中国卖国独裁者是反华,你在这里是反加了.

你反加?你希望加拿大不好,所以你批判反对加拿大政府.你就希望加拿大坏,加拿大人民坏.


你这样的反加SB人士说坏的一定是好的.
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The Liberals would roll back the latest business tax cut, leaving the corporate income tax rate at 18 per cent. The $6 billion dollars in extra federal tax revenue would be used to bolster education, family care and pensions, Liberals say.




加拿大的企業稅這麼減還高達18%嗎?顯然還要再減至15%左右才具備競爭力,最好到13%左右。

希望看到其它政黨關於經濟方面的高論,主要看他們希望企業稅是什麼樣的比例,這要同其它國家的企業稅相比較,俺老曉得中國經濟一馬當先,原因之一就是還不到5%的企業稅,還這補貼那補貼的。

國家經濟的競爭力要橫向的來比較。
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加拿大的企業稅這麼減還高達18%嗎?顯然還要再減至15%左右才具備競爭力,最好到13%左右。

希望看到其它政黨關於經濟方面的高論,主要看他們希望企業稅是什麼樣的比例,這要同其它國家的企業稅相比較,俺老曉得中國經濟一馬當先,原因之一就是還不到5%的企業稅,還這補貼那補貼的。

國家經濟的競爭...
你也反加不反中?
你干吗这样?你恨加拿大人?
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